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      03-31-2008, 03:01 PM   #1
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going for service...should i take jb2hr out?

Im going in for service because my steering wheel is peeling and my ipod connector doesnt work. Nothing wrong with engine. Should I still take of the chip? thanks
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They have the right to make a little note on your service record that they saw the chip. they probably won't, but they can nonetheless. Just take it out to avoid a huge potential headache...
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Nope, just ask them to void your warranty so you won't have to make an ethical decision when you do damage to your engine.
If you don't have anything positive to say then don't say anything at all. I guess it is better that I take it out.
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Nope, just ask them to void your warranty so you won't have to make an ethical decision when you do damage to your engine.
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take it out.
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Take it out.. why risk it even if the issue has nothing to do with the chip
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Im going in for service because my steering wheel is peeling and my ipod connector doesnt work. Nothing wrong with engine. Should I still take of the chip? thanks
I see the idea of fraud is still taken very lightly around these parts.

What happened to, "Ya gotta pay to play"?
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Take it out, don't give the stealership an excuse to blame the ipod problem on it
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Look at the cars in his sig, he probably could care less about a 335, whereas many on this forum actually care about their cars.
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I see the idea of fraud is still taken very lightly around these parts.

What happened to, "Ya gotta pay to play"?
Well actually I am a pretty moral person, and if I knew that my chip caused a problem in my engine, then I would not mind paying for it believe it or not. The thing is that the dealerships abuse their customers and might blame the chip for things not even closely related to it. So to respond to you, If you like to be taken advantage of, then I can't do anything to stop it, but I am going to do everything I can to stop the dealership from ripping me off, especially when they treat me like crap like they always do. I can't stand people who honestly believe that BMW is trying to look out for them, LMAO, they will do ANYTHING in order to make a profit from you, ITS THAT SIMPLE, THEY ARE A NON FOR PROFIT BUSINESS.
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Well actually I am a pretty moral person, and if I knew that my chip caused a problem in my engine, then I would not mind paying for it believe it or not. The thing is that the dealerships abuse their customers and might blame the chip for things not even closely related to it. So to respond to you, If you like to be taken advantage of, then I can't do anything to stop it, but I am going to do everything I can to stop the dealership from ripping me off, especially when they treat me like crap like they always do. I can't stand people who honestly believe that BMW is trying to look out for them, LMAO, they will do ANYTHING in order to make a profit from you, ITS THAT SIMPLE, THEY ARE A NON FOR PROFIT BUSINESS.
If you are a moral person then the answer to your question is clear - keep it in.

Removing it is deceptive.

I believe you are confusing BMW and your dealership, they are two separate entities.
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Better safe than sorry.
You'll feel much better about it when you take your car in.

It's really not worth the chance of them finding something.
Just make sure you put the hoses back on the solenoids.
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If you are a moral person then the answer to your question is clear - keep it in.

Removing it is deceptive.

I believe you are confusing BMW and your dealership, they are two separate entities.
NO it is not clear because If my radio or my xenon lights or even my 335i badge ever falls out of my car, then I know for sure that the dealer is going to blame my chip for it. I think you should reconsider your sides here, I am very happy to see moral people like you, I am not trying to start a fight, but after my experience with dealers, I know even if I tried, I could not be as deceptive as they are with me.
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Take it out....

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NO it is not clear because If my radio or my xenon lights or even my 335i badge ever falls out of my car, then I know for sure that the dealer is going to blame my chip for it. I think you should reconsider your sides here, I am very happy to see moral people like you, I am not trying to start a fight, but after my experience with dealers, I know even if I tried, I could not be as deceptive as they are with me.
Or your fuel pump which is a known problem, they'll blame it on your piggy. Take it out.
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NO it is not clear because If my radio or my xenon lights or even my 335i badge ever falls out of my car, then I know for sure that the dealer is going to blame my chip for it. I think you should reconsider your sides here, I am very happy to see moral people like you, I am not trying to start a fight, but after my experience with dealers, I know even if I tried, I could not be as deceptive as they are with me.
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It's a moral issue if, however, you know the part failed because of the piggyback and not because of a defect.
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Take that baby out...you'll sleep better knowing you did.
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It takes 30 minutes to take it out. Less if you have power tools.

Why wouldn't you?
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NO it is not clear because If my radio or my xenon lights or even my 335i badge ever falls out of my car, then I know for sure that the dealer is going to blame my chip for it. I think you should reconsider your sides here, I am very happy to see moral people like you, I am not trying to start a fight, but after my experience with dealers, I know even if I tried, I could not be as deceptive as they are with me.
I am not trying to start a fight either but these (recurring) questions drive me absolutely crazy. To my mind they are on the order of, "Should I cheat on my taxes?" You can rationalize taking it out all you want but because someone may screw you at some time in the future is no justification for deceiving them now.
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What's with the holier-than-thou approach? Think the dealership wouldn't screw you given the chance?
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