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      09-25-2014, 04:51 PM   #1
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Will it fit? (I need some advice)

Hello Guys,

I'm new to the forum Hope to get some more information about fitting the wide wheels i want under my car.

I drive a E90 325i and really want some Varrstoen ES5 wheels. Do i need to roll my arches (front/rear) so i won't be destroying the whole arches.
Do i also need a camber kit or will bring the lowering enough of camber to the wheels? My car is lowered on HR Springs

What would be the best tires choice? 35 of 45 high?

Front: 19x9.5 +20 w/ tires: 225/35/19
Rear: 19x10.5 +22 w/ tires: 235/35/19

Random picture from internet with the Varrstoen ES5 Wheels


On this picture the wheels are to wide for the fenders?


Thanks anyway! :thump: Im new to the BMW Scene (coming from Honda, hehe)

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      09-26-2014, 09:32 AM   #2
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Yes this will work. I would use 225/35/19 and 255/30/19 tyre combo. Shouldn't even be any kinda problem, but you need fender roll to rear and most likely negative camber. Front would fit with slightly added camber or you could roll the front too.

I have e90 pre-lci with 18x9.5 et22 225/40/18 and 18x10.5 et15 255/35/18 combo. No rubbing with rolled rear fedners and camber. http://i.imgur.com/KSenIR5.jpg

Here is one with 19 inch http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=528128

No you don't need camber kit. Rear camber is adjustable from factory to certain point.
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      09-27-2014, 08:43 AM   #3
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Aah thanks for the info! I didn't know they had a oem camber adjustment, hehe!

I gonna find some more info about these wheels/sizes under a E90. If somebody has more pictures of 19x10.5, please let me know.
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Same outer fitment as mine which are
9.5et22 245/35/19
11et33(et27 with 5mm spacer) 275/30/19

IMO you need front camber plates. You can get a little bit of camber by taking out the alignment pin but that won't get you much. You can use 225/35/19 and 255/30/19 or 235/35/19 and 265/30/19. 225/255 would be less work.
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Thanks for the info! Rolling my fenders will do the trick, their are some good companies in Holland who are specialized in the rolling.

My car is also lowered on lowering springs, so i think the wheels and the fenders will have enough clearance to bounce free? It's not slammed tho :P
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Thanks for the info! Rolling my fenders will do the trick, their are some good companies in Holland who are specialized in the rolling.

My car is also lowered on lowering springs, so i think the wheels and the fenders will have enough clearance to bounce free? It's not slammed tho :P
Since you "only" have lowering springs it will be easier to fit, because the height of the car has big role in this game.

19x10.5 et25
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=904320
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img191/2694/djsl.jpg
https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/...20674580_n.jpg

19x10.5 et22
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=840298
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=936794
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=956806
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674869
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=720784
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Awghhhh! Thanks bro! I owe you big time

How do you find it that quick and that much, haha

I think the set-up will work tho! I think i'm gonna order the wheels, hehe!
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hey guys, i have a similar question, but in my case i have an e90 LCI dropped on ST coils. They have about a 1 finger gap all around but my question was the same as OP. I want to get some varrstoen wheels and the 10.5 in the rear seems too aggressive to run without a camber kit. Can someone chime in on that? I would like to use my hankooks from my current set because i just got them a couple months ago, 235 front and 265 rear.
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hey guys, i have a similar question, but in my case i have an e90 LCI dropped on ST coils. They have about a 1 finger gap all around but my question was the same as OP. I want to get some varrstoen wheels and the 10.5 in the rear seems too aggressive to run without a camber kit. Can someone chime in on that? I would like to use my hankooks from my current set because i just got them a couple months ago, 235 front and 265 rear.
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Rear definitely needs camber, but not necessarily camber kit ,since it's adjustable from the factory to about -3. Varsstoen used to have ES1 with 18x10.5 et30, but it's not listed anymore. That would have been good size.

For now there is only the ES2 blank wheel and you can choose the specs yourself. http://varrstoen.com/products/es-2/

I would go with 18x9.5 et25-30 front and 18x10.5 et30 rear. It would get you this kinda look except front is more aggressive.http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=530974

It's not too aggressive to go with 18x9.5 et22 and 18x10.5 et22 at lci, then you can choose whatever style you like, but you would have to use narrower tyres and rear needs little more than fender roll and camber. Basically with those specs you get exactly same look as i have at my pre-lci 18x9.5 et22 front, 18x10.5 et15 rear http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=112

Or did you mean 19 inch wheels?
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I would like to use my hankooks from my current set because i just got them a couple months ago, 235 front and 265 rear.
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If you meant 19 inch wheels, then i would say it's better idea to go with 19x11 et25 rear than 19x10.5 et22, since the 265/30/19 tyre would stretch more and more wheel styles to choose.

Here is one LCI with 19x9.5 et20 225/35/19 and 19x11 et25 265/30/19.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=909373
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=933743
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If you meant 19 inch wheels, then i would say it's better idea to go with 19x11 et25 rear than 19x10.5 et22, since the 265/30/19 tyre would stretch more and more wheel styles to choose.

Here is one LCI with 19x9.5 et20 225/35/19 and 19x11 et25 265/30/19.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=909373
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=933743
very interesting, I appreciate all the help! i am mostly looking into a 19 inch variation of the es1 by varrstoen. So a couple questions I had was about camber and about the rear wheels size. So based on what you said that I wouldn't need a camber kit, how bad would the premature tire wear be on the inside of the tire considering I daily my car and put roughly 12-15k miles a year. What would some estimations of tire life be if you know by any chance? And also could you go in depth a little more about why it would be more beneficial to run a 11 inch rear rather than the 10.5 on my e90 lci?
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very interesting, I appreciate all the help! i am mostly looking into a 19 inch variation of the es1 by varrstoen. So a couple questions I had was about camber and about the rear wheels size. So based on what you said that I wouldn't need a camber kit, how bad would the premature tire wear be on the inside of the tire considering I daily my car and put roughly 12-15k miles a year. What would some estimations of tire life be if you know by any chance? And also could you go in depth a little more about why it would be more beneficial to run a 11 inch rear rather than the 10.5 on my e90 lci?
No you shouldn't need any camber kits to rear. Don't know how fast tyre wear will be visible, but you could also flip the tyres at some point on the wheel, so it would wear more evenly. In reality it's TOE that will eat your tyres fast, if it is out of specs. Most guys with these kinda setups run zero toe at rear. Also if you shave the inside fender lip away you can use less camber.

Seems like the 19x11 et25 ES1 is also gone from the listed sizes. The 11 wide is better because if you want to use your 265/30/19 tyre it will have more stretch than 10.5 with 265 which by the way would be hard to fit. But lets say you change the rear tyre to more narrow like 255/30/19 or 245/35/19 then you could go with 10.5. But it also means that front tyres should be changed to 225/35/19. No other reasons, maybe 11 wide rear sounds cooler.

But here is 19x9.5 et22 225/35/19 and 19x10.5 et22 245/35/19 To me it seems that he doesn't have much camber at rear.http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=543546
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Would a wide set of VMR VB3 (Front) 19x10 +38 -- (Rear) 19x10.0 +25 wheels fit on a E90 (2006, 325i, RWD)?

Will lower the car with BC Racing Coils (w/ camber plates). I think we need to roll the rear fenders?


The picture shows: Front: 19x9.5 +33, Rear: 19x10.0 +25
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Would a wide set of VMR VB3 (Front) 19x10 +38 -- (Rear) 19x10.0 +25 wheels fit on a E90 (2006, 325i, RWD)?

Will lower the car with BC Racing Coils (w/ camber plates). I think we need to roll the rear fenders?
You will need spacers to front atleast 10mm, but in my opinion you should get et25 to front also. There is no point getting higher offset to front when you need spacer that will make the wheel close to et25 anyway. Also i would get spacers to rear to push it more out to match the front.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=375

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But when i put a spacer, the wheel gets way out of the fender?

245/35/19 would be good at the front i guess and 265/35/19 at the rear?
You need will negative camber so you don't poke that much. Depending the amount of negative camber you either are flush with fender or have tiny amount of poke. For example my 225/40/18 on 18x9.5 et22 and camber is -1.5 to -2 and the wheel is 3mm less aggressive than 19x10 et25.

The wheel edge is visible from above, so it's slightly past the fender edge.
http://i.imgur.com/ZnNWsPS.jpg

And when it's aired out the wheel is pretty much flush with fender, maybe even little bit "sunken" http://i.imgur.com/XbSZNZS.jpg

My tyre choice would be either 235 or 245/35/19 front and rear. This way you can rotate the wheels between front and rear and the stretch would look the same and you can push the rear wheel out easier, because more stretch.

Here is 18x10 square setup with 235/40/18 and 245/40/18 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1029562
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10"et25 will poke 12mm up front at stock camber. You'll be flush at -2 degrees. In the rear you'll need a spacer if you want to use the same amount camber.

Here is 9.5et22 with 245/35/19 and -1.8 degrees of camber.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=49
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