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      04-13-2008, 09:25 AM   #1
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Sumitomo vs Khumo vs General ?????

Gary (or anybody else that want to comment)

I’m looking at buying wheels and tires for my car (SG E90 Sedan) and have questions regarding tires

For the wheels I’m leaning towards the Breyton Race GTS from Tirerack, in sizes 19 X 8.5 OT30mm fronts and 19X 9.5 OT35mm rears

For the tires I’m undecided between The General UHP, Khumo Ecsta, and the new Sumitomo HTR Z III and would like your opinion between the them

To help here is what I’m looking for in a tire;
Sizes;
235 35 19 front
275 30 19 rears

1. Comfort ( I do a lot of mileage (35000 Km /Year) so I spend a lot of time in a car and I do not want a harsh tire)
2. High tread wear (same reason as number 1)
3. Dry performance
4. Wet performance

I do not do any track with my car and I drive moderately most of the time , so I do not feel it necessary to spend on very expensive tires , but at the same time I do not want to buy solely on price , the Generals are very popular but I’m wondering if its based mostly on pricing, the Sumis did amazingly well in recent testing but how are they every day and will they last?

Thanks for your comments

PS, I use dedicated winter tires

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Gary (or anybody else that want to comment)

I’m looking at buying wheels and tires for my car (SG E90 Sedan) and have questions regarding tires

For the wheels I’m leaning towards the Breyton Race GTS from Tirerack, in sizes 19 X 8.5 OT30mm fronts and 19X 9.5 OT35mm rears

For the tires I’m undecided between The General UHP, Khumo Ecsta, and the new Sumitomo HTR Z III and would like your opinion between the them

To help here is what I’m looking for in a tire;
Sizes;
235 35 19 front
275 35 19 rears

1. Comfort ( I do a lot of mileage (35000 Km /Year) so I spend a lot of time in a car and I do not want a harsh tire)
2. High tread wear (same reason as number 1)
3. Dry performance
4. Wet performance

I do not do any track with my car and I drive moderately most of the time , so I do not feel it necessary to spend on very expensive tires , but at the same time I do not want to buy solely on price , the Generals are very popular but I’m wondering if its based mostly on pricing, the Sumis did amazingly well in recent testing but how are they every day and will they last?

Thanks for your comments

PS, I use dedicated winter tires
Pretty sure you mean 275 30 19 rears ...

I use Falken FK-452 and I like them. In general comfort is better with 18" rims, rather than 19".
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The general is a great compromise for everything you said. I have falken fk 452 on my car and I like them a lot. stiff sidewall but excellent handling.
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excellent in the rain as a bonus
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I suggest the Generals as well. I am running them and very happy with them AS A STREET TIRE. They will give you the best treadwear of the 3 you are considering. An additional benefit is that they are M+S rated. I see you live in Montreal. A M+S rated car will be much better when temps go below 40 degrees F, while the other tire's rubber will turn into the consistency of a hockey puck. Much safer tire at lower temps.
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He said he has dedicated winter wheel and tire setup I'm pretty sure..
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I would stick with either the Kumhos or Generals and between those two, the generals for the price advantage. Both are very comparable tires that do well in both wet and dry conditions. You also can't beat them for the price.
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My last 2 sets of tires have been Kumho Ecsta SPT, and I am very happy with them
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I went with the Generals. I was hesitant as I've had good tires in the past. These have exceeded my expectations, and are hard to beat for the price.
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i have kumhos in 19s staggered right now, and i hate them! will be trying generals next...
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Generals are pretty decent. Sure...you could always go for more grip in a more expensive tire. Generals are not awesome...but for normal street driving...they're pretty good. You can't complain. My only slight complaint is that slightly louder road noise (when compared to stock).

Like you say...you drive moderately tho and don't track the car...so might as well go with that.
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He said he has dedicated winter wheel and tire setup I'm pretty sure..
I understand that, But In Montreal, he may encounter sub 40 degree weather in spring and fall when he does not have the winter tires on. Its just not safe to run summer tires below 40 degrees F. Many do but it is not wise. Generals would be safer at thoses temps .
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