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      06-28-2017, 06:35 PM   #1
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Disappointed with e91 xenons

Are the e90 / e91 xenons notoriously crap?

I've had xenons on several cars. S3, mk5 GTI and my other car a Boxster S has them and the ones on my e91 are really dull. They are aligned properly and the adjuster on the suspension arm is connected properly.

They just don't seem very bright.

Can you fit upgraded (aka brighter) bulbs?

Thanks.
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      06-29-2017, 03:24 AM   #2
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Can the bulbs lose power as they age? Mine are fantastic and most people with them rave about them too.
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      06-29-2017, 04:38 AM   #3
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What bulbs do you currently have installed? There are loads of crap knockoff bulbs out there.

I always go OSRAM for D1S Xenon but people like MTEC 6K as well.

https://www.osram.com/automotive/pro...amps/index.jsp

The Xenarc Night Breaker Unlimited is a great bulb. It's 4300K colour temp which gives off a good amount of light. It does however have a slight yellowish tinge.

You could go for the Xenarc Cool Blue Intense which has a colour temp of 5500K (advertised as 6000K). This bulbs gives a much more whiter light and put it more into the realm of the Audi headlights. You lose some intensity however so you won't be able to see as far as the 4300K bulbs.

It's up to you. I do a lot of country road driving so prefer the higher beam quality the 4300K produce. But the 5500K are perfectly safe to drive with.

Just my opinion.
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Are the e90 / e91 xenons notoriously crap?

I've had xenons on several cars. S3, mk5 GTI and my other car a Boxster S has them and the ones on my e91 are really dull. They are aligned properly and the adjuster on the suspension arm is connected properly.

They just don't seem very bright.

Can you fit upgraded (aka brighter) bulbs?

Thanks.
I can understand you finding them below par. I came from a MK5 golf and a Cayman S. Both of which knock the E90/2 Xenon's into a cocked hat. I don't think there is anything wrong with them. Just what you're used to. One point. I found mine set too low from the factory. A slight adjustment helped no end.
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Mine are fine.
No worse than any other xenon headlights I've ever had, maybe only brand new Mercs/BMWs have better ones
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Thanks for the replies.

I took the passenger cover off yesterday and it's got a Philips bulb

I might try a new pair of bulbs just to check but they are definitely weaker than I'm used to.
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If there's a Philips D1S bulb in there they've been replaced. Stock is OSRAM as far as i know.
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I think I remember seeing an option in Carly too to code the lights brighter or dimmer etc. It might be possible someone has turned them down.
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What bulbs do you currently have installed? There are loads of crap knockoff bulbs out there.

I always go OSRAM for D1S Xenon but people like MTEC 6K as well.

https://www.osram.com/automotive/pro...amps/index.jsp

The Xenarc Night Breaker Unlimited is a great bulb. It's 4300K colour temp which gives off a good amount of light. It does however have a slight yellowish tinge.

You could go for the Xenarc Cool Blue Intense which has a colour temp of 5500K (advertised as 6000K). This bulbs gives a much more whiter light and put it more into the realm of the Audi headlights. You lose some intensity however so you won't be able to see as far as the 4300K bulbs.

It's up to you. I do a lot of country road driving so prefer the higher beam quality the 4300K produce. But the 5500K are perfectly safe to drive with.

Just my opinion.
+1 for xenarc blue!
Done a lot of research and upgraded to them (beware as there are fake ones out).
They are defo better than oem Philips one.


I agree with you as pre-lci is slightly poor compared to LCI and its down to projectors used in e9x.

When I had F10 and retrofitted xenons, they were miles better than e9x despite of using Philips bulbs. Difference b/w e9x and f1x was new upgraded projectors.

New minis have very bright xenons and its down to projectors used in those cars.
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+1 for xenarc blue!
Done a lot of research and upgraded to them (beware as there are fake ones out).
They are defo better than oem Philips one.


I agree with you as pre-lci is slightly poor compared to LCI and its down to projectors used in e9x.

When I had F10 and retrofitted xenons, they were miles better than e9x despite of using Philips bulbs. Difference b/w e9x and f1x was new upgraded projectors.

New minis have very bright xenons and its down to projectors used in those cars.
all new mini's use LED headlights not xenon.

Would LCI xenon headlights be plug and play on my pre LCI car? Need to do something as they are really crap.
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      07-02-2017, 05:14 AM   #11
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I feel that my lci stock xneons are really good, but then it's the first car I've had with them....
Coming from classic cars and dirt bikes I'm greatful for light that actually lights something up!

Maybe put up your location (doesn't show on phones) have a look at night with someone near by with LCI xneons before you make an expensive change maybe...?
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all new mini's use LED headlights not xenon.

Would LCI xenon headlights be plug and play on my pre LCI car? Need to do something as they are really crap.
I thought LCI cars just had LED DRL's and the main Xenon lamps were just the same as pre LCi?
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Would LCI xenon headlights be plug and play on my pre LCI car? Need to do something as they are really crap.
LCI headlights are a different shape to pre-LCI therefore won't fit unless you change bumper as well.

Edit: ignore me, I was thinking of the e92

Last edited by oli3; 07-03-2017 at 11:02 AM. Reason: ignore me
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all new mini's use LED headlights not xenon.

Would LCI xenon headlights be plug and play on my pre LCI car? Need to do something as they are really crap.
LCI Xenon's will fit, not sure what coding or retrofitting a later FRM etc you'd need to do for Xenon to Xenon swap.

Even used a pair of headlights are around 800, so you've got to decide how much it bothers you really.
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      07-13-2017, 07:29 AM   #15
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Just ordered a pair of Osram CBI bulbs. will see if it helps.
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So the new CBI bulbs seem to have made no difference whatsoever! The E90 just has crap headlights it seems
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