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      05-05-2008, 09:53 AM   #1
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Vredestein Sessanta

I'm getting my new tires Wednesday. I'll give you a full report.
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why those? they are a bit noisy and not a match for only slightly more expensive Goodyear F1, Bridgestone Potenzas or Michelin PS2s, at least according to latest test for 18in size i've read a week ago. Like got 8.1 out 10 when others named above scored around 8.9 or 8.8. Small difference may be, but they were like losing out on all counts except in wet. Also bit noisy - though all wet oriented tyres are on noisier side.

I thought my pS2s were noisy but after driving on highway speeds I realized they are actually super quiet. Friend has those Vredestein's on his Merc C class and they are noisier even with his car's superior sound proofing.


But hey, may be its different where you are and you like them, and I know remmib here has them and he likes them very much. So tests are subjective.
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why those? they are a bit noisy and not a match for only slightly more expensive Goodyear F1, Bridgestone Potenzas or Michelin PS2s, at least according to latest test for 18in size i've read a week ago. Like got 8.1 out 10 when others named above scored around 8.9 or 8.8. Small difference may be, but they were like losing out on all counts except in wet. Also bit noisy - though all wet oriented tyres are on noisier side.

I thought my pS2s were noisy but after driving on highway speeds I realized they are actually super quiet. Friend has those Vredestein's on his Merc C class and they are noisier even with his car's superior sound proofing.


But hey, may be its different where you are and you like them, and I know remmib here has them and he likes them very much. So tests are subjective.
They're worth a look. Here in the states, they are half the price of all the tires you listed.
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      05-05-2008, 12:38 PM   #4
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I love these frigging tires...get them from performanceplustire.com if your going to order online..otherwise try to go into shop to get em...

i have 245x30x20 and 285x25x20...
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half the price??? Well definately worth buying then. Here they are like 10% cheaper only. So it was no brainer for me to go for michelins.
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why those? they are a bit noisy and not a match for only slightly more expensive Goodyear F1, Bridgestone Potenzas or Michelin PS2s, at least according to latest test for 18in size i've read a week ago. Like got 8.1 out 10 when others named above scored around 8.9 or 8.8.
What test was this, I guess in some car magazine.
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i aswell, have heard nothing but great write ups about this tire, i will look into them for myself when my Kumhos are done
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Well I was able to get them mounted yesterday. No issues with the road balancing, however they did change the stock camber a bit in the rear and then adjusted the front to match. About 1 degree Neg in the back. First thing I noticed was the sound. They are a lot more quiet than the stock Potenza Rft. This morning into work, I drove hard into a clover leaf about 65 mph and no squirm or squeel. Much of the under steer is gone. I will continue to post updates. I got them from a dealer in Mpls. He wasn't able to match the price of Performancetire, plus they were 2-3 weeks out. I got them in 4 days and paid 200 a tire mounted road balanced and with Nitrogen.
It is supposed to rain this weekend, so I am looking to see the performance in the rain. Plus the tread is super cool.
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Another good place to read reviews since not too many people have written reviews on the Vredestein tyres.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article...-tyre-test.htm

Here are more of the particulars of the Evo test and some of the results:
The Car:
VW Golf GTI MK5

The Track:
Bridgestone European Proving Ground - Rome

Tyre Size:
225/45 R17 Y

Anyways very quick summary:


Tyres tested:
1. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
2. Continental Contisport Contact 3
3. Dunlop Sport Maxx
4. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric
5. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
6. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2
7. Pirelli PZERO Nero
8. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA
9. Yokohama S.DRIVE

Wet Handling:

Lap Times:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.05%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 98.38%

Lateral G:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 97.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.34%

Subjective:

1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.15%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 94.23%

Aqua-Planing:

Straight Line:

1. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.01%

Cornering:

1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 83.37%
3. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 80.09%

Braking:

Wet Braking

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.19%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.44%

Dry Braking - Very little to choose between top and bottom [7% difference]

1. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.08%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.94%

Best at the Pumps:

Resistance (rolling):

1. Yokohama S.DRIVE - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.88%
3. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31 - 92.72%

Dry Handling:

Lap Times:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 99.79%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 99.18%

Lateral G:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.19%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 96.18%

Subjective:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 95.55%
3. Pirelli PZERO Nero - 93.33%

Road Route:

Subjective:

1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 92.50%
3. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 90.50%

OVERALL RESULTS:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.4

A decisive win for the new Goodyear, with more table-topping performances than any other tyre. Better still, those wins came in both the wet and the dry objective test, and subjectively it was voted best tyre on the dry handling course.

2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 95.3

3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 93.5
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