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      05-22-2008, 12:19 PM   #111
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Wait a minute ... SELL THE LOTUS

BUT WHY ???????????

Take it from me ... a 330d or 335d or 330i or 335i WILL NOT feel anywhere near as 'special'.

I reckon you have the perfect arrangement.

I know....I know..... Thanks for the vote of confidence.....trouble is extensions (of the house variety) are expensive things......
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I know....I know..... Thanks for the vote of confidence.....trouble is extensions (of the house variety) are expensive things......
Ah ...

I suppose if you need more space then you have to pay for it.

Couldn't you sell a kidney and keep the lotus?
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Ah ...

I suppose if you need more space then you have to pay for it.

Couldn't you sell a kidney and keep the lotus?
Hmmmmm.....thing is the "need" for more space is a bit like my "need" for the Lotus.....

Don't worry, I'm fighting it....we'll see!
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Anyway. Anyone got any comparisons of the rise in fuel price on the continent compared to the UK?
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Majority of Europe imports crude oil, the dollar is currently week against most currencies. I can tell you for definate that in France the percentage rise in fuel prices is the same as the UK, despite the still cheaper fuel prices. Their diesel is 1.12 per litre and unleaded at 1.16. Obviously they are NOT taxed as heavily as us judging by their diesel prices
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Majority of Europe imports crude oil, the dollar is currently week against most currencies. I can tell you for definate that in France the percentage rise in fuel prices is the same as the UK, despite the still cheaper fuel prices. Their diesel is 1.12 per litre and unleaded at 1.16. Obviously they are NOT taxed as heavily as us judging by their diesel prices

Because their Government know they would not get away with it as they would all strike.
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Some European countries have a stabilising policy where they reduce fuel duty if prices go up too fast. Of course, that would never happen here.
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The price of Diesel has massively outstripped unleaded in the last few months, these two charts say it all really

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      05-26-2008, 08:26 AM   #119
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Some European countries have a stabilising policy where they reduce fuel duty if prices go up too fast. Of course, that would never happen here.
Indeed that is true, in fact here the government reaps in even more due to proportionate increases on VAT revenue!!!!! Unlike duty, VAT is a percentage of the price, so the higher, the better for HM government!!
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The chart would be more useful if it displayed the delta between the diesel and petrol prices.
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Apparently the reason for the growing disparity in prices is that low sulphur 'light' crude oil is getting more expensive than other types. This is the preffered raw material for diesel and it's pushing up the price. Other factors are a massive hike in demand in China since the recent earthquake.

I heard a guy on radio 4 last week from a petroleum magazine who felt that the supply of this kind of oil had peaked (ie it will only reduce in future because of limited stocks and cost of extraction, regardless of changes in demand).
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Some thoughts on the current situation from the boss of shell
Times Article

He offers some good insights into "peak oil", the orginal theory works well for "easy oil" but doesn't take account of the harder to extract oil which can be accessed as the price increases or tech advances allow it's extraction.

So when "peak oil" arrives, prices might stabalise at a new level and then stay there as canadian shale etc becomes viable.
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Apparently the reason for the growing disparity in prices is that low sulphur 'light' crude oil is getting more expensive than other types. This is the preffered raw material for diesel and it's pushing up the price. Other factors are a massive hike in demand in China since the recent earthquake.

I heard a guy on radio 4 last week from a petroleum magazine who felt that the supply of this kind of oil had peaked (ie it will only reduce in future because of limited stocks and cost of extraction, regardless of changes in demand).
Has anyone been in Curry's recently? The price of fridges have shot up...
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Has anyone been in Curry's recently? The price of fridges have shot up...
Bish Bosch...you must be joking, Paul?

Fridge talk has always been a Hotpoint with me & all this talk of rising costs involved in refrigeration is just going to leave us all Indesit.

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Apparently, there's a shortage of rice as well or rather the rice producing countries are not exporting as much. This means the chinese take away prices may rise - bugger!!

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So petrol, diesel, rice and fridge prices have soared. Is life worth living anymore? If it is, its a bloody expensive life!
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Looks that way Paul - even the 'best things in life' are no longer free either!
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So petrol, diesel, rice and fridge prices have soared. Is life worth living anymore? If it is, its a bloody expensive life!
I think fridge prices have been pretty stable these last few years.

The quality brands hold their value as well. A well sorted 3 year old bosch is still worth 50% of the list price.
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I think fridge prices have been pretty stable these last few years.

The quality brands hold their value as well. A well sorted 3 year old bosch is still worth 50% of the list price.
Excellent Of course Bosch are 'A' rated as well - more energy efficient. What about dishwashers then?
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I think fridge prices have been pretty stable these last few years.

The quality brands hold their value as well. A well sorted 3 year old bosch is still worth 50% of the list price.
It seems SMEG's with ice dispensers even appreciate in value... I can't get one for love nor money...
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