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DIY: E90 Lumbar Support Retrofit
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#1
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Tomppa_AC
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03-05-2011, 02:50 PM
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Thanks a LOT, for this DIY!
I did the same operation today on my E92 (non-electric sports-seats, with existing side bolster support) and thought of doing a DIY for that project, but it seems I was a bit late ![]() However, I purchased the wiring as well (the wiring from under the seat to both lumbar-pumps) so that every part would be as "from factory". I was able to install everything as it is supposed to be in the backrest, very much as you had done it, but my project came to a dead stop, since I didn't have the wire from the 4-way switch to where-ever it is supposed to be connected. I'm going to visit my dealer next week to order the correct parts (probably to whole under-seat wiring). I'll probably make a DIY of my own, based on the install with factory parts. Anyway, this helped a alot and reassured me that it is possible (although not very cheap) to install lumbar support as a retrofit. Even now, that I only put in the lordosis pad into the backrest I can feel a clear difference in lumbar-support (it was hopeless before and was killing my back) and I can't wait to be able to adjust it even more! |
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#2
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Tomppa_AC
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03-07-2011, 11:14 AM
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Hi,
Just to confirm, the 61126942559 part is the correct harness for this job, however it includes only the harness for the backrest (connectors for pump, lordosis valve / lumbar valve / seatbottom connection) and not the harness from the 4-way switch to wherever it is supposed to be connected. Sent a mail to my dealer today, if they could help me out with the rest. |
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#3
By
flyinglow330
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04-05-2011, 03:57 AM
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Hey Tomppa, where you able to get an answer from your dealer regarding the missing harness?
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#4
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HomeBrew
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04-14-2011, 09:36 AM
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Good to know about the harness.
If I wind up doing the passenger side, I would just order the harness this time. But since the harness needed to be ordered from Germany (3 or 4 weeks for delivery, and I already had the seat ripped apart), I just made it myself Thanks for the confirmation! |
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#5
By
ecomposer
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04-17-2011, 03:20 PM
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How about a manual air bladder?
Great photos.
It looks like a $10 blood pressure cuff or the $50 Corbeau air bladder may be easily introduced in front or in back of the spring-anchored backrest harness (or elsewhere?) to correspond with the absent lumbar support area quite easily. I'll be popping of that backrest cover and take a look first chance I get. I did a search and found a Porsche thread where this manual air bladder/blood pressure cuff solution was done rather simply and that it reportedly preserved the stock look- no pics though. http://www.986forum.com/forums/printthread.php?t=3763 Sound do-able for E90? |
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#6
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HomeBrew
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04-17-2011, 11:02 PM
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Certainly doable.
I could see two possible problem spots. 1. It might be tricky to get tubing outside the seat. Unless you bring the tubing from the pad, down to the bottom of the seat, and then out to the side. But could catch on the slides/rails for the seat movement. 2. Securing the pad to the wires might be an issue. Securing it so it doesn't slide up/down in the back of the seat with zip ties could cause it to rip under pressure. If you try this, let's see some pictures! |
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#9
By
chesterroh
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04-27-2011, 09:52 PM
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Hi SLeagle328,
I'm doing the same thing with my f10 535d. It does have sports seat with heat/cool but without lumbar support ridiculously in my country. I'm retrofitting lumbar support parts into my seat. Having purchased relevant mechanical parts, I'm not find any information of how to wire those parts. How can I get harness map or something ? F10 parts are definitely different from E90 ones. I just want to follow your trail of best practice if possible. Could you please help me a bit to get out of this can't-do-anything situation ? Thanks. |
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#10
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HomeBrew
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04-29-2011, 09:28 AM
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Quote:
You could probably find the wiring harnesses in the BMW parts catalog (your dealer can help with this). If you're not familiar or not confident with wiring diagrams, soldering, and heat shrinking, I'd say just order the entire harness from your dealer (might cost more, but will definitely be easier) |
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#11
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Tomppa_AC
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06-14-2011, 04:53 PM
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Hi all.
Sorry for not getting back to this before, I only recently got the lumbar support installed with the correct harnesses. Good news = Both the backrest and the seat bottom harness are available from the dealership at a reasonable price. The original harness in the seat bottom lacks the connector for the 4-way switch of the lumbar support, but it is always included in the retrofit seat bottom harness you can buy at the dealership. So this is the correct seat bottom harness for my cars drivers side (Sport seats / non-power, E92 06/2007): 61129131631 Therefore, installation was quite straightforward, simply replace both the seat bottom and backrest harness, install the new dual pressure valve / pump as well as lordosis pad and you're good to go! |
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#12
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Tomppa_AC
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06-14-2011, 07:47 PM
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Here is a link to my DIY, hopefully it will be of use to someone!
http://aircooled.suomalainenverkkoka...arRetrofit.pdf |
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Last edited by Tomppa_AC; 08-08-2011 at 06:06 PM.
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#13
By
woodpecka
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07-13-2011, 09:34 PM
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There is a complete kit for sale here, including the wiring harness.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558486 |
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#14
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HomeBrew
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08-01-2011, 09:16 PM
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#17
By
Rampage9
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09-07-2011, 06:39 PM
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Just did the retrofit to my drivers seat on the weekend, and I can confirm that 61 12 9 131 729 is the correct seat bottom harness for those with power + memory + sport seats. Everything is simple plug and play, but getting the plastic trim off of the side of the seat bottom for the switch is a real b!tch!
Big thanks to SLeagle328 and Tomppa_AC for their DIYs! The addition of the lumbar support is much improved over the stock seat. |
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#18
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HomeBrew
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09-24-2011, 02:48 PM
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Just a heads up, if you have any questions, my username has been changed from SLeagle328 (which the DIY was originally posted under) to HomeBrew.
Let me know if you have any q's. |
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#19
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darwin
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08-20-2012, 06:58 AM
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Hi
I am trying to follow your DIY for my sport seats of a E87, but I do not have on my seats the "black box", please can you give me the reference number to fin to locate in the OEM Regars |
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#20
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darwin
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08-20-2012, 10:20 AM
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Hi
I ve finded out that the black box is the heating seat box. And I am wonder if I have already heated seats do I need to conect the seat harness to that box. Can anyone please confirm this? |
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#21
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Tomppa_AC
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08-21-2012, 04:10 AM
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Hi.
My seats are heated, so they might differ a bit. I checked realoem for the E87 and it also has the black box, so if it is missing then you probably don't have heated seats. If not, I suppose you then have to get a retrofit wiring harness that fits non-heated seats. I can help you dig it up, if you throw me mail that gives a bit more details on your car (month / year / engine / left-right drive). |
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