SpyPix--BMW 335d in Final U.S. Tests (282 hp / 428 lb-ft) - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Jason · 07-08-2008, 01:17 PM

BMW is in the midst of its final testing for the U.S.-spec 335d--the first diesel-powered Bimmer to be sold in North America. The introduction of the 335d will coincide with the launch of facelifted sheetmetal destined for the entire 3-series lineup.

Due to e-mission restrictions, the U.S. version of the 335d will reportedly be down on power from its European cousin (265 hp and 425 lb-ft of torque vs. 282 hp and 428 lb-ft.), but even our U.S. numbers--especially the fat torque number--promise terrific performance that may well be enough convince people to make the move to diesel.

As with the 335i gasoline engine, BMW will use two turbochargers--a small, low-pressure turbo to aid low-end acceleration and a more potent turbo to help at higher engine speeds. Acceleration for the 335d is expected be around 6.2-seconds to sixty, while fuel consumption will likely yield 23 mpg city and 33 mpg highway.

BMW's new diesel range is expected to launch under the banner: BMW Advance Diesel with BluePerformance (Blue denotes the use of AdBlue--the aqueous urea solution used to reduce the diesel's nitrogen oxide emissions). The 335d is expected to bow this fall.

ALPINE6SPD · 07-08-2008, 01:23 PM

I drove it at training and also drive the X5 with the diesel. It was nice but not worth the approx 2500-3000 cost over the TT 6 cylinder. In the X5 on the other hand it makes sense. The X5 is actually quicker with this motor than the gas engine and gets better mileage. The X5 with that motor was amazing to drive I was extremly impressed with it. How can you beat it, more HP that the 3.0si gas engine and more torque than the V8 with the mileage os a 4 cyl SUV. It makes a lot more sense in the X5 that the 3 series to me and after driving both extensively on the track and on the road that point was more obvious to me.

John 070 · 07-08-2008, 01:26 PM

Seems like it's plenty tough to move 335's nowadays with $1250 and 1.9%. Probably need some solid incentives to get someone to buy one. What people say and do with their money are two different things. Imagine dealers commanded list price in late 8/06 for a E92, now they can't move them.

satakal · 07-08-2008, 01:58 PM

where can I get a hood like that? Fit and finish match my budget.

Nikkahtropolis · 07-08-2008, 01:59 PM

What's the hole in the side of the bumper for?

epiphone3 · 07-08-2008, 02:02 PM

I'd like to see us get the new 3.0 liter diesel debuting in the new F01 7 series here. I believe it is the more fuel efficient, single turbo version but is now making 245hp instead of 225hp. I think this would be more ideal for the 3-series, would be cheaper to buy up front, and would show better fuel economy than the 335d. i'd imagine this 245hp version of the engine will be in the new 330d following the face lift.

ideally however, I wish that the 323d would make it here to North America. 2.0 liter, 4-cylinder, twin-turbo diesel with 204hp and 300 ft-lbs of torque. And very frugal. This would be the engine for me!

BMW E90 · 07-08-2008, 02:54 PM

I love the idea but with diesel costing more than regular gas and the fact that the diesel version doesn't get that much better mileage might hurt sales for his model.

d3l0n · 07-08-2008, 02:57 PM

well there is the confirmation of th new body design.. and i must say.. i hate those new side skirts.. UGLAY. I know this post is about the diesel, i'm excited about this.. but curious how it will work.. It only offerss 4 mpg highway... isnt diesel fuel more expensive also?

mapezzul · 07-08-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

What's the hole in the side of the bumper for?

The AdBlue filler...

(I wrote up a bunch of stuff on 'file about the diesels)

Also nice to see these planned "spy" photos with a cleaned car (except they forgot the front bumper) and watered down station in an old west town... lol

SLCGoonski · 07-08-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

What's the hole in the side of the bumper for?

Looks like the approximate location of the tow hook...

mapezzul · 07-08-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SLCGoonski

Looks like the approximate location of the tow hook...

Read my response above....

The cutout in the rear bumper side is for the AdBlue filler.

If we are talking front bumper those are for the NEW front parking sensors which are going to finally make it to the US!

ra2fanatic · 07-08-2008, 03:12 PM

damn....torque....

voltron1011 · 07-08-2008, 03:18 PM

Now they just need to bring the 330d 6mt and then I'll be REALLY happy!!!

voltron1011 · 07-08-2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

I drove it at training and also drive the X5 with the diesel. It was nice but not worth the approx 2500-3000 cost over the TT 6 cylinder. In the X5 on the other hand it makes sense. The X5 is actually quicker with this motor than the gas engine and gets better mileage. The X5 with that motor was amazing to drive I was extremly impressed with it. How can you beat it, more HP that the 3.0si gas engine and more torque than the V8 with the mileage os a 4 cyl SUV. It makes a lot more sense in the X5 that the 3 series to me and after driving both extensively on the track and on the road that point was more obvious to me.

Totally agree with you... These kind of motors do their best in big SUVs (SAVs)...

GreenThree · 07-08-2008, 03:20 PM

sweet. Tell me those orange blinkers are a cover...

ianbiz · 07-08-2008, 03:23 PM

It will fail. Diesel is too much at the moment, and the 335D wont be uber economical. It doesnt balance out in its favor currently.

crex · 07-08-2008, 03:35 PM

im still hoping for the 330 direct injection! 30+ mpg hwy

joech · 07-08-2008, 03:42 PM

I hope the hitch comes as standard equipment.

voltron1011 · 07-08-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ianbiz

It will fail.

I don't necessarily think it'll fail.. I like the idea that they are bringing the 'Big Guns' of diesel motors to the US... They need to show that diesels are a contender.
When VW brought their TDI motors over here (15 years ago), they made the mistake of only bringing the weak, eco-diesels; which didn't help with the whole 'diesel sucks' attitude that Americans have with them...
I only hope that they bring other motors like the one from the 123d and the 330d.
Like I said before, I'd buy a 330d 6mt in heartbeat if they brought it over and it was priced below that of the 335i... The 330d is a simpler motor (single turbo) than the complex sequential-turbo that the 335d has.

voltron1011 · 07-08-2008, 03:50 PM

BTW, what's BMW's stance on bio-diesel?

e90driver · 07-08-2008, 03:55 PM

X5 with TT diesel? Yum.

Imola.ZHP · 07-08-2008, 04:02 PM

33 highway, thats all?

07-08-2008, 01:17 PM	#1
Jason Administrator Drives: 4 wheels on the bus go round.. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: IoT Posts: 6,124 iTrader: (0) View Jason's Garage	SpyPix--BMW 335d in Final U.S. Tests (282 hp / 428 lb-ft) BMW is in the midst of its final testing for the U.S.-spec 335d--the first diesel-powered Bimmer to be sold in North America. The introduction of the 335d will coincide with the launch of facelifted sheetmetal destined for the entire 3-series lineup. Due to e-mission restrictions, the U.S. version of the 335d will reportedly be down on power from its European cousin (265 hp and 425 lb-ft of torque vs. 282 hp and 428 lb-ft.), but even our U.S. numbers--especially the fat torque number--promise terrific performance that may well be enough convince people to make the move to diesel. As with the 335i gasoline engine, BMW will use two turbochargers--a small, low-pressure turbo to aid low-end acceleration and a more potent turbo to help at higher engine speeds. Acceleration for the 335d is expected be around 6.2-seconds to sixty, while fuel consumption will likely yield 23 mpg city and 33 mpg highway. BMW's new diesel range is expected to launch under the banner: BMW Advance Diesel with BluePerformance (Blue denotes the use of AdBlue--the aqueous urea solution used to reduce the diesel's nitrogen oxide emissions). The 335d is expected to bow this fall. Attached Images

07-08-2008, 01:23 PM	#2
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07-08-2008, 01:59 PM	#5
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07-08-2008, 02:57 PM	#8
d3l0n I love the ///M3, but I want 550hp ///M5 Drives: BMW330iE90 Join Date: May 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 2,728 iTrader: (1) View d3l0n's Garage	well there is the confirmation of th new body design.. and i must say.. i hate those new side skirts.. UGLAY. I know this post is about the diesel, i'm excited about this.. but curious how it will work.. It only offerss 4 mpg highway... isnt diesel fuel more expensive also? __________________ .::d3l0n::.

07-08-2008, 03:12 PM	#12
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07-08-2008, 01:26 PM	#3
John 070 Brigadier General Drives: 335i cpe spt/prem/cold/comf/6M Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: space/coral week 44, rec'd 12/02 Posts: 4,476 iTrader: (0)	Seems like it's plenty tough to move 335's nowadays with $1250 and 1.9%. Probably need some solid incentives to get someone to buy one. What people say and do with their money are two different things. Imagine dealers commanded list price in late 8/06 for a E92, now they can't move them.

07-08-2008, 01:58 PM	#4
satakal Major Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: socal Posts: 1,250 iTrader: (2)	where can I get a hood like that? Fit and finish match my budget.

07-08-2008, 02:02 PM	#6
epiphone3 Major Drives: 2006 BMW 323i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,342 iTrader: (0)	I'd like to see us get the new 3.0 liter diesel debuting in the new F01 7 series here. I believe it is the more fuel efficient, single turbo version but is now making 245hp instead of 225hp. I think this would be more ideal for the 3-series, would be cheaper to buy up front, and would show better fuel economy than the 335d. i'd imagine this 245hp version of the engine will be in the new 330d following the face lift. ideally however, I wish that the 323d would make it here to North America. 2.0 liter, 4-cylinder, twin-turbo diesel with 204hp and 300 ft-lbs of torque. And very frugal. This would be the engine for me!

07-08-2008, 02:54 PM	#7
BMW E90 Major General Drives: JB E90 335i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Around the Bay Posts: 7,416 iTrader: (8)	I love the idea but with diesel costing more than regular gas and the fact that the diesel version doesn't get that much better mileage might hurt sales for his model.

07-08-2008, 03:18 PM	#13
voltron1011 Colonel Drives: 325i, Rav-4 V6, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 2,894 iTrader: (2)	Now they just need to bring the 330d 6mt and then I'll be REALLY happy!!! __________________ '06 E90 325i (Delivered May '05) 6-spd manual, Nav, Xenons, 18' 162's, sport-suspension, 13mm RE spacers,

07-08-2008, 03:20 PM	#15
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07-08-2008, 03:23 PM	#16
ianbiz Missing the Z4 Drives: Black E90 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne/UCF, Florida Posts: 3,427 iTrader: (2)	It will fail. Diesel is too much at the moment, and the 335D wont be uber economical. It doesnt balance out in its favor currently. __________________ Ian I WANT A TERRA OR CINNAMON INTERIOR. WILLING TO TRADE MY MINT BLACK INTERIOR FOR IT + CASH. PM ME

07-08-2008, 03:35 PM	#17
crex Lieutenant Drives: bmw 135i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NOVA Posts: 405 iTrader: (0)	im still hoping for the 330 direct injection! 30+ mpg hwy

07-08-2008, 03:42 PM	#18
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07-08-2008, 03:50 PM	#20
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07-08-2008, 03:55 PM	#21
e90driver Lieutenant Drives: 06 325i, 08 328xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	X5 with TT diesel? Yum. __________________ see ya 06 325i. IT'S HERE!- 08 E92 328xi, Premium, Auto, Cold- Montego Blue

07-08-2008, 04:02 PM	#22
Imola.ZHP NOT FOR SALE! Drives: 2003 BMW 330i ZHP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Cordova, TN Posts: 1,002 iTrader: (0)	33 highway, thats all? __________________ Marcus