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      07-11-2008, 02:32 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Logic Motorsports HORRIBLE!!! wow a must read.....

If you want to read it for yourself please go here.....
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1878991&page=1

I have posted many of his best quotes in the thread already if you don't
want to look for yourself. The last few quotes I can't believe the owner
of a company would even say these horrible things.

I have been ripped off by MAX HA in the past. Here is a little insight
into the character of Logic Motorsports. Ran by Max Ha. He used to own
MHR "Max Ha Racing" a Honda company. He has a bad rep so he started Logic
Motorsports to have a new name. Just want to give you guys a heads up
before you buy things from a company like this the kind of service you can
excpect.

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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...68935#26068935 > Re:
BEWARE: MHR Performance aka Lucky Racing (K-Spec)
<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...=1&postid=2607
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...tid=26070236#2
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Talk about nightmare. Dealing with you KEVIN PRACHA has not been a
walk
in the park... Funny how You say one thing but your problem is that you
contradict yourself. Try reading the first paragraph and see if that
makes any sense?? You talk out of spite and leave out valuable information.

Building an engine from the ground up takes time. Sometimes GOD forbid
it may take longer. All the while you were still not upset. YOU ARE
RELUCTANT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU DECIDED TO KEEP ADDING MORE THINGS TO
YOUR CAR. WHICH IN TURN TAKES MORE TIME.. Still You never once
complained. And everytime we spoke you always had a smile on your face,
and never had anything bad to say. Now that you moved to arizona. YOU
think you can come and discredit MHR. I didnt even bother to read all
your ramblings. Seriously..

Funny how you SENT ME RAVE REVIEWS ON MYSPACE. SPOKE VERY HIGHLY OF YOUR
EXPERIENCE ON THE PRELUDE FORUM. But now you come back after you were
told that you are probably mistaken and to give me time to figure out
what happened exactly.. Now you have the nerve to play the "VICTIM ROLL"
Trying to badmouth MHR.. LOL!!! You are a character indeed. And have
some issues you should consider dealing with.

Bottom line is this. YOUR CAR RUNS GREAT!!! I am not going to waste my
time responding to every single comment you probably made in that novel.
ALL I know is that it took your 4 months to come forth and complain. But
everytime we met you were SATISFIED. The day you picked up your car...
SATISFIED!! We spoke on the phone a few times.. YEPP ALL SATISFIED. So
just go about your business. I hope you work on your social skills a bit
more. And do well in life. Just dont go around spreading rumours. And
not stating all the facts. Like I said I am not going to bother
disecting your whole novel. Because MHR has done nothing wrong to you.
You payed. and MHR gave you excellent service, parts and expertise. End
of story. Remember. In the END EVERYTHING IN THE DARK COMES OUT TO THE
LIGHT.. So be carefull what you say. Because it may come back to bite
you in the ass.
/Modified by mhr performance at 5:48 PM 1/29/2007
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OH NOOOO!!!! A knock sensor came apart!!! OMG its the end of the
world!!! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!! Jeez man. Knock sensors can all come
apart like that. Its just a microphone. Not rocket science.. If you feel
that strongly about your ks. I will buy you one. BUt you never spoke up
about that. How am I suppose to know??AGAIN Not my fault.
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...71255#26071255 > Re:
(ITRbroham)
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...tid=26071332#2
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/Quote, originally posted by *ITRbroham* /
Couldn't this have been settled by the two parties over IM?

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I am up to settle the dispute in any fashion. There is no need to
put on
a show. Like kevin is trying to do right now. But he knows he will lose
in a debate about this subject. So he is using a public forum and hiding
behind a computer because he is too much of a coward to talk this out
like man. Without trying to be condesending and just sticking to the
facts. Something Kevin Pracha is apparently unable to do.
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...70395#26070395 > Re:
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/Quote, originally posted by *Stew Pidasso* /
Wow Comeback of the YEAR!!!1!!!

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Im only on here to state the facts that Mr Kevin Pracha failed and
is
reluctant to mention. Because it will put holes in his case. Sometimes
there are people who will not be satisfied no matter what you do. It's
just the way it is. and is one of the many downfalls of owning your own
business. Why dont you just come to your senses. and act like an adult.
Then maybe you will get treated like one.
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...85907#26085907 > Re:
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/Quote, originally posted by *2point6* /

So, why are you unwilling to return his phone calls? I sincerley hope
you stop calling him names and resolve the direct issue which apparantly
is a billing issue, not a KS sensor.

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So who are you the internet police? You are nothing but a whistle
blower. You sound like a little baby. Just mind your own business. Stop
trying to hype people up and make this into a huge ordeal. IT HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU. EXIT STAGE RIGHT!!! Anyone who has to badmouth
another shop and try to give themself a free plug is just jealous. Its
obvious what your trying to do. You are so pathetic I am done talking to
you.
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...87869#26087869 > Re:
(UNDER PRESSURE)
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/Quote, originally posted by *UNDER PRESSURE* /

You know what bro you got it twisted now. He actually gave you props and
respect and also pointed it out that he wasn't trying to harm your
business or your credibility. So read everything before making assumptions.

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Giving props? Where on earth did you get that? You cant give props.
then
slander someone at the same time. Its a wash.. How is that giving props?
YOU should re read and see the condecending undertones he used.

pat someone on the shoulder and then stab them in the back.. Now does
that sound right to you?
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<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=...tid=26098922#2
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/Quote, originally posted by *2point6* /
Hopefully the mods will step in and remove all the unrealted BS and a
positive resolution will be the outcome.

Kevin, please keep us all informed.


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Scott, You should seriously stop acting like your so righteous. Why
do
you even care? Maybe is it because you feel you have something to gain
by it?

By the looks of it. Your acting VERY FAKE! You badmouth someone and try
to come off as some saint. Then give props yet, you talk even more
crap.. LOL you and kevin are both made for each other. Your like 2 peas
in a pod.. Dude, give it up. ALL YOUR TRYING TO DO IS GIVE YOURSELF A
FREE PLUG. Nobody dragged you into this. YOU DOVE IN HEAD FIRST.

BTW guys you might want to check out what other shop owners and well
respected people in the industry and HT are saying. Besides this
IGNORANT biased dipshit on here.
http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1878997&page=1
<http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1878997&page=1 >

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/Quote, originally posted by *hu* /
By his actions, MHR has made it clear that there will be no money
refunded. He is in garden grove...what do you expect? Suing him is the
only way he will learn.

From an initial search, MHR is not registered with the Secretary of
States office to do business in California. This means he most likely
does not have business insurance. A majority of insurance companies
require you to be registered with the SS office to have coverage. Cali
is weird! He will have to pay for an attorney out of his pocket. There
are other factors, but Kev could have some fun and teach our little
buddy a lesson. MHR's action are accepted and tolerated in garden grove,
but not elsewhere.


Mat day = MHR


/Modified by hu at 11:06 AM 2/4/2007/

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Hu why dont you run along and go bother someone else. We dont need
your
help. So Keep your comments to yourself.

As far as not having business insurance? You are SADLY mistaken if you
believe that to be true. Mhr is fully insured. End of discussion.

What do you know what needs to be done. Do you you own a shop in
california? How do you operate for several years without a business
license anyways? Or how about a sellers permit? You cant even lease a
shop in my business park without having that. Again please refrain from
talking on this thread. Your comments are rude, unjustified, and
basically makes no argument what so ever.
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* HU the 33 year old virgin-*

Get a life.. Seriously guy. Do you need a hug? Why do you butt into
things that you are not a part of? You must have some serious self
esteem issues. And my god look at your sig. You look like a crazy
obsessed person. You are not even remotely involved. You are only making
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This is unnecessary. . .Your post could have been made a lot simpler. . .

I am warning you all about [insert company name here] because they did not do right by me. I recently purchased [insert what you ordered] and I was extremely dissatisfied. So I must warn you all about [insert company name here] and to deal with them at your own risk.

But to pull quotes from all over the internet is just unnecessary. Clearly, you are unsatisfied and no matter what they do you will not be satisfied. I can't knock you about ranting because we have all done it at one point but damn buddy suck it up and move on. . .
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thanks for your input. However, the quotes are from a single thread so you're a little off with the "all over the internet" business.
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thanks for your input. However, the quotes are from a single thread so you're a little off with the "all over the internet" business.

So does this guy buy or sell BMW parts or cars?
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hes a sponsoring vendor on this forum...
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that's why I asked. . .thank you. . .I'm not one to argue, continue on your noble quest. . .
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I'm not even going to read that hodge podge post you've made. You registered here just to post that? Douche. Logic has been good to the people here. Go cry about it on the Honda forum.
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I'm not even going to read that hodge podge post you've made. You registered here just to post that? Douche. Logic has been good to the people here. Go cry about it on the Honda forum.
Don't know anything about Logic. I do know enough not to give much credence to a first time poster with a bur up his butt.
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Jizake,

You should get your facts straight before posting. If its one thing I have learned while in the car industry over the past 10 years is that you cant make everyone happy. But we continue to try! Who says we don't work on imports anymore? We currently have a shop filled with them. In fact we are booked solid and have been for quite some time. We did not change names either. If you must know.. MHR has grown into a corporation and occupies almost triple the space as before with a Dyno, and it owns Logic Motorsports. If you would like to further discuss this matter I would be happy to talk about this over pm. Thank You.

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wow dats was long... hope the problem gets solved soon tho
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so, was everything resolved?
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Yes it has. It has been almost 2 years or so. Cant remember the exact date. We came to an agreement and the customer left happy.
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