for aggresive drivers.....! Dinan Camber Plates - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

matt0528 · 03-23-2006, 12:06 AM

i think this might help a lot of us out!

Part #: D160-0002
Price: $249.00
Labor Units: 35.0

Dinan Camber Plates provide a remarkable reduction of understeer and more immediate turn-in from the new 3 Series by inducing .5 degree more negative camber on the front wheels. The additional negative camber provides more grip in the turns, reducing the vehicle's tendency to plow the front end for those who drive a bit more aggressively.

A quick look at your front tires will tell the story. If you are noticing significant outside edge front tire wear, perhaps even a bit of "cupping", you are definitely a candidate for the Camber Plates. Not only will the extra camber improve the 3's handling, but you'll also likely notice more even tire wear, assuming you continue to corner aggressively.

has anyone heard how hard this is to put on? or any other info?

Arby 330 · 03-23-2006, 12:39 AM

i have the worst front tires in the world..... wats all that camber buisness mean?

a burrito · 03-23-2006, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matt0528

i think this might help a lot of us out!

Part #: D160-0002
Price: $249.00
Labor Units: 35.0

Dinan Camber Plates provide a remarkable reduction of understeer and more immediate turn-in from the new 3 Series by inducing .5 degree more negative camber on the front wheels. The additional negative camber provides more grip in the turns, reducing the vehicle's tendency to plow the front end for those who drive a bit more aggressively.

A quick look at your front tires will tell the story. If you are noticing significant outside edge front tire wear, perhaps even a bit of "cupping", you are definitely a candidate for the Camber Plates. Not only will the extra camber improve the 3's handling, but you'll also likely notice more even tire wear, assuming you continue to corner aggressively.

has anyone heard how hard this is to put on? or any other info?

Sounds like i may give this a try. The last paragraph is exactly on target. Withi my new e90 330i AND my previous e46 330ci, The stock camber setup forces the front tires to cup throughout wear which FORCES the user to change the front tires even if the center tread is far from needing replacement... I would know this because i just had all four's changed with Michelin PS2's. Does dinan have and pics of this, im VERY interested.

nabutes · 03-23-2006, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by matt0528

....for those who drive a bit more aggressively.

Exactly how aggressive are we talking about???

LEDZEP · 03-23-2006, 06:17 AM

I'm interested as well. The outside edge tire wear you are talking about is called feathering, not cupping. BMWs are notorious for it. My tires look like a skill saw blade.

matt0528 · 03-23-2006, 05:23 PM

mine also look horrible... i have been very easy on my tires since i started noticing this. there were no pictures on dinans site... im just wondering how hard it will be to install... do you think this would void any warranty??

Gitta · 03-23-2006, 05:34 PM

I'm interested too. My daily commute is all windy back roads and I love to zip through the turns. A friend of mine thought my tires were bald but it's just the extreme outside edge that looks bald.

Oz · 03-23-2006, 05:56 PM

This would definitely be a good mod..I might be interested

voltron1011 · 03-23-2006, 07:21 PM

This sounds like an actual engineering flaw to me.... Similar to the camber problem on the 350Z. Nissan actually new about the problem early on and starting recalling all of the cars. One of my friend's has a 350z and he's recieved 2 sets of free front tires already. It seems that Nissan didn't get it right the first time.....

e90driver · 03-23-2006, 07:30 PM

My tires feathered badly and made a lot of road noise. I just had an alignment and new tires installed. They said my alignment was off and that caused the uneven wear. I paid for new tires, dealer paid for alignment and installation of new tires. These new tires better stay quiet!

obLu · 03-23-2006, 07:44 PM

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Labor Units: 35.0

What's a labor unit? Hopefully not an hour of book labor?

e90driver · 03-23-2006, 07:50 PM

Labor units - 10 units = 1 hour

I talked to Dinan rep and he said unless you corner hard often, you will experience inside wear (cupping). The information for the set is misleading as outside tire wear is known as feathering.

e90driver · 05-09-2006, 01:56 PM

Are you guys still experiencing any abnormal tire wear or noise? I have had tires replaced, the vehicle aligned 2x and still pretty significant feathering. I ran my hands along the outside edge of a demo e90 and a few of the e90 loaner cars when at the dealership and some were as bad as mine, some a little better. I wish BMW would address this issue and offer a fix (ie. Camber plates or new alignment guidelines, whatever is needed). I guess it could be worse

Robin Hood · 05-09-2006, 02:01 PM

Camber should be adjusted OEM in the first place, which isn't possible. I don't know Dinan, it's from the USA. I think I can get some of these in EU too.
I'm a trackday user, as many here may know

(this sunday to the Nordschleife) But sometimes I 'm having a lot of understeer.

REMEDY. NO CAMBERPLATES, NO!

Just buy a 130i M. Or a M3 CSL. LOL

stressdoc · 05-09-2006, 02:04 PM

What kind of wear are the folks that are putting there E90s on the track getting?

Edit: I see Robin Hood complains of understeer, but what are the tire wear patterns like?

txusa03 · 05-09-2006, 02:12 PM

I am not a candidate since my tires look good (after 18,800 miles) knock on wood...

E90330iS · 05-09-2006, 02:18 PM

is $249 a decent price??

T7R_Sky · 05-09-2006, 02:23 PM

Im tempted by this product because my old 325i had horrible wear on the outside rims of the tires. Has anyone actually bought any of these yet?

egtlover74 · 05-09-2006, 03:50 PM

I talked to a guy who works at a tire store. He said just put more pressure than what BMW recommended cus BMW only cares about how the car handles not the wear on tires. He recommended 32 on front and 35 on rear on my 325i with sport pkg. Yes! my tires are feathered too. However, after the increase in pressure, tires started to wear much more evenly.

18LLC · 05-09-2006, 05:17 PM

15% off on all dinan products until 6/1/06.

Hunter399 · 05-09-2006, 07:04 PM

They are not adjustable

e90driver · 05-10-2006, 02:10 PM

Well my tires are wearing like crap in the front, I sure hope BMW fixes this supposed alingment spec problem and reimburses for some of my tire expenses. It's an annoying problem on an otherwise problem-free car.

03-23-2006, 12:06 AM	#1
matt0528 Second Lieutenant Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 100 iTrader: (1)	for aggresive drivers.....! Dinan Camber Plates i think this might help a lot of us out! Part #: D160-0002 Price: $249.00 Labor Units: 35.0 Dinan Camber Plates provide a remarkable reduction of understeer and more immediate turn-in from the new 3 Series by inducing .5 degree more negative camber on the front wheels. The additional negative camber provides more grip in the turns, reducing the vehicle's tendency to plow the front end for those who drive a bit more aggressively. A quick look at your front tires will tell the story. If you are noticing significant outside edge front tire wear, perhaps even a bit of "cupping", you are definitely a candidate for the Camber Plates. Not only will the extra camber improve the 3's handling, but you'll also likely notice more even tire wear, assuming you continue to corner aggressively. has anyone heard how hard this is to put on? or any other info? __________________ *2006 BMW 330i* // Spark. Graphite // Black Interior w/ Alum.// 15mm Spacers Sport Package // 162 18" rims // JL 12w6v2 sub // JL 500/1 amp// PMB Hyperwhite Angels
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03-23-2006, 12:39 AM	#2
Arby 330 First Lieutenant Drives: jet black 330 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ft. Myers, FLorida Posts: 310 iTrader: (0)	i have the worst front tires in the world..... wats all that camber buisness mean? __________________ 330i- Jet Black/black leather/aluminum trim/sports/premium/nav-IDrive ....every single option available (steptronic ) 5% suntek- all the way around (15% strip on front winshield)

03-23-2006, 06:17 AM	#5
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 12,292 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [3.93] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	I'm interested as well. The outside edge tire wear you are talking about is called feathering, not cupping. BMWs are notorious for it. My tires look like a skill saw blade. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious

03-23-2006, 05:23 PM	#6
matt0528 Second Lieutenant Drives: '06 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 100 iTrader: (1)	mine also look horrible... i have been very easy on my tires since i started noticing this. there were no pictures on dinans site... im just wondering how hard it will be to install... do you think this would void any warranty?? __________________ *2006 BMW 330i* // Spark. Graphite // Black Interior w/ Alum.// 15mm Spacers Sport Package // 162 18" rims // JL 12w6v2 sub // JL 500/1 amp// PMB Hyperwhite Angels

03-23-2006, 05:34 PM	#7
Gitta Kelly's 330i Drives: 330i Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: E PA Posts: 415 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i (current ... [0.00] 2006 330i (new) [0.00] 2006 330i (interior) [0.00]	I'm interested too. My daily commute is all windy back roads and I love to zip through the turns. A friend of mine thought my tires were bald but it's just the extreme outside edge that looks bald. __________________ '06 330ix \| 6MT \| TS-BDL-BW \| ZSP \| ZPP \| heated seats \|... mods \| cf splitters painted TiAg \| spoiler \| blacklines \| short shift knob \| cf trim \| *** winter setup: 17" ASA JH3 & Dunlop WinterSport M3 DSST * . '01 325xi \| auto \| TS-GDL-BW \| ZPP \| heated seats \|........... mods** \| spoiler \| mudguards \| blackout grills \| clear lights \| halo projector headlights \|

03-23-2006, 05:56 PM	#8
Oz Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2006 330i, 2004 X5 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wayne, NJ Posts: 1,777 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	This would definitely be a good mod..I might be interested __________________ 2006 330i Steptronic/Alpine White/Black Leather/Burl Walnut Trim/Premium Package/iDrive/Heated Seats/Winter: STYLE 159 Blizzak LM-22 RFT/Summer: TBD 2004 X5 Steptronic/Alpine White/Grey Leather/Poplar Trim/Premium Package/Heated Seats/iPod Adapter

03-23-2006, 07:21 PM	#9
voltron1011 Colonel Drives: 2011 135i, FJR-1300 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wiesbaden Posts: 2,912 iTrader: (2)	This sounds like an actual engineering flaw to me.... Similar to the camber problem on the 350Z. Nissan actually new about the problem early on and starting recalling all of the cars. One of my friend's has a 350z and he's recieved 2 sets of free front tires already. It seems that Nissan didn't get it right the first time.....

03-23-2006, 07:30 PM	#10
e90driver Lieutenant Drives: 06 325i, 08 328xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	My tires feathered badly and made a lot of road noise. I just had an alignment and new tires installed. They said my alignment was off and that caused the uneven wear. I paid for new tires, dealer paid for alignment and installation of new tires. These new tires better stay quiet! __________________ see ya 06 325i. IT'S HERE!- 08 E92 328xi, Premium, Auto, Cold- Montego Blue

03-23-2006, 07:50 PM	#12
e90driver Lieutenant Drives: 06 325i, 08 328xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	Labor units - 10 units = 1 hour I talked to Dinan rep and he said unless you corner hard often, you will experience inside wear (cupping). The information for the set is misleading as outside tire wear is known as feathering. __________________ see ya 06 325i. IT'S HERE!- 08 E92 328xi, Premium, Auto, Cold- Montego Blue Last edited by e90driver; 03-23-2006 at 07:50 PM. Reason: spelling

05-09-2006, 01:56 PM	#13
e90driver Lieutenant Drives: 06 325i, 08 328xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	Are you guys still experiencing any abnormal tire wear or noise? I have had tires replaced, the vehicle aligned 2x and still pretty significant feathering. I ran my hands along the outside edge of a demo e90 and a few of the e90 loaner cars when at the dealership and some were as bad as mine, some a little better. I wish BMW would address this issue and offer a fix (ie. Camber plates or new alignment guidelines, whatever is needed). I guess it could be worse __________________ see ya 06 325i. IT'S HERE!- 08 E92 328xi, Premium, Auto, Cold- Montego Blue

05-09-2006, 02:01 PM	#14
Robin Hood S0THPAW Drives: F10 535i/ F30 335i 6MT ordered Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands, Europe Posts: 2,973 iTrader: (0)	Camber should be adjusted OEM in the first place, which isn't possible. I don't know Dinan, it's from the USA. I think I can get some of these in EU too. I'm a trackday user, as many here may know (this sunday to the Nordschleife) But sometimes I 'm having a lot of understeer. REMEDY. NO CAMBERPLATES, NO! Just buy a 130i M. Or a M3 CSL. LOL

05-09-2006, 02:04 PM	#15
stressdoc Moderator Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MO Posts: 9,273 iTrader: (0)	What kind of wear are the folks that are putting there E90s on the track getting? Edit: I see Robin Hood complains of understeer, but what are the tire wear patterns like?

05-09-2006, 02:12 PM	#16
txusa03 Major General Drives: TS330iPPSP6MT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 6,615 iTrader: (2)	I am not a candidate since my tires look good (after 18,800 miles) knock on wood...

05-09-2006, 02:18 PM	#17
E90330iS Major General Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Redwood City, California Posts: 6,402 iTrader: (55) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	is $249 a decent price?? __________________ Moved to the Bay Area. Looking for meets!

05-09-2006, 02:23 PM	#18
T7R_Sky "I know you know that I know you know..." Drives: Sparkling Graphite E90 328i Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 789 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 E90 328i [0.00]	Im tempted by this product because my old 325i had horrible wear on the outside rims of the tires. Has anyone actually bought any of these yet?

05-09-2006, 03:50 PM	#19
egtlover74 Photographer Drives: 335is Coupe Join Date: May 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 314 iTrader: (1)	I talked to a guy who works at a tire store. He said just put more pressure than what BMW recommended cus BMW only cares about how the car handles not the wear on tires. He recommended 32 on front and 35 on rear on my 325i with sport pkg. Yes! my tires are feathered too. However, after the increase in pressure, tires started to wear much more evenly.

05-09-2006, 05:17 PM	#20
18LLC Major General Drives: 325Xi Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: California Posts: 5,062 iTrader: (0)	15% off on all dinan products until 6/1/06.

05-09-2006, 07:04 PM	#21
Hunter399 Major General Drives: 11' E90 m3 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 7,723 iTrader: (29)	They are not adjustable

05-10-2006, 02:10 PM	#22
e90driver Lieutenant Drives: 06 325i, 08 328xi Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Michigan Posts: 503 iTrader: (0)	Well my tires are wearing like crap in the front, I sure hope BMW fixes this supposed alingment spec problem and reimburses for some of my tire expenses. It's an annoying problem on an otherwise problem-free car. __________________ see ya 06 325i. IT'S HERE!- 08 E92 328xi, Premium, Auto, Cold- Montego Blue