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      07-07-2010, 11:09 PM   #947
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My local dealer told me they can order the FSC code for Voice control and I got the P/N here: Voice activation: 0017 65902163073 they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.


Also question for Technic, I am struggling to find the correct FSC P/N. Although I got two P/N here:
Navi application code: 0019 65902163072 ($710NZD) they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.
Navi enable code free: 001B 65902163187 (they said this is a free one)
:CIC intial code for Oceania 2010: 65902159283 (They said this one will work ) but I think this one is just FSC for map.

How many did you order in order to get your navigation working? and what was the dissipation for each FSC code you ordered?

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My local dealer told me they can order the FSC code for Voice control and I got the P/N here: Voice activation: 0017 65902163073 they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.


Also question for Technic, I am struggling to find the correct FSC P/N. Although I got two P/N here:
Navi application code: 0019 65902163072 ($710NZD) they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.
Navi enable code free: 001B 65902163187 (they said this is a free one)
:CIC intial code for Oceania 2010: 65902159283 (They said this one will work ) but I think this one is just FSC for map.

How many did you order in order to get your navigation working? and what was the dissipation for each FSC code you ordered?
Those P/N should be correct for your country as the Application ID for CIC is listed correctly:

App-ID 0017 = CIC Voice Recognition Repair Code
App-ID 0019 = CIC Navigation Repair/Retrofit Code HB
App-ID 001B = CIC Navigation Enabler Repair/Retrofit Code HB
App-ID ???? = CIC Map Oceania 2010 Repair Code

I ordered 0019 and 001B to enable Nav and 002D for the North America 2010 maps.

Do you have the price of that 0017 P/N?
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My local dealer told me they can order the FSC code for Voice control and I got the P/N here: Voice activation: 0017 65902163073 they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.


Also question for Technic, I am struggling to find the correct FSC P/N. Although I got two P/N here:
Navi application code: 0019 65902163072 ($710NZD) they said this is a one off delivery code specially generated by BMW NZ and will not issue it again.
Navi enable code free: 001B 65902163187 (they said this is a free one)
:CIC intial code for Oceania 2010: 65902159283 (They said this one will work ) but I think this one is just FSC for map.

How many did you order in order to get your navigation working? and what was the dissipation for each FSC code you ordered?
As discussed you need all 3 codes for the Navigation. There is no other way.
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Those P/N should be correct for your country as the Application ID for CIC is listed correctly:

App-ID 0017 = CIC Voice Recognition Repair Code
App-ID 0019 = CIC Navigation Repair/Retrofit Code HB
App-ID 001B = CIC Navigation Enabler Repair/Retrofit Code HB
App-ID ???? = CIC Map Oceania 2010 Repair Code

I ordered 0019 and 001B to enable Nav and 002D for the North America 2010 maps.

Do you have the price of that 0017 P/N?
Yes they told me is around $680NZD
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Performed our retrofit a couple of days ago:



Pictured are 2 CIC units - one used (married) and one unused - I'll be documenting the entire process to see which is the most effective install.

Also pictured:

- HD CID Display
- 2nd Gen TCU (GSM)
- CIC specific Controller (different part numbers)
- Center console trim, LVDS cabling and USB port

At the moment, I am up and running with full operation (including NAV/Voice Control) with the used CIC unit and custom module used for CAN analysis.
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Looks awesome Tom! Cannot wait until you guys make this process more widely available to those of us less inclined to rip apart our cars
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Looks awesome Tom! Cannot wait until you guys make this process more widely available to those of us less inclined to rip apart our cars
Swapping the iDrive does not require any "rip apart", just replace the shifter trim and only if you want the new controller. If you are retrofitting the iDrive then you will have to replace the whole dash and creating wire harnesses, it does not matter who's your supplier of the parts.
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Performed our retrofit a couple of days ago:



Pictured are 2 CIC units - one used (married) and one unused - I'll be documenting the entire process to see which is the most effective install.

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- 2nd Gen TCU (GSM)
- CIC specific Controller (different part numbers)
- Center console trim, LVDS cabling and USB port

At the moment, I am up and running with full operation (including NAV/Voice Control) with the used CIC unit and custom module used for CAN analysis.
Nice... the CIC on the right does not look like it is for a 3-Series, though. Has the trim covering the CIC changed for MY2010-on?
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Nice... the CIC on the right does not look like it is for a 3-Series, though. Has the trim covering the CIC changed for MY2010-on?
the one on the right is a Euro CIC.
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Swapping the iDrive does not require any "rip apart", just replace the shifter trim and only if you want the new controller. If you are retrofitting the iDrive then you will have to replace the whole dash and creating wire harnesses, it does not matter who's your supplier of the parts.
I meant swapping CCC for CIC. I actually like clean look of the older controller, so would probably keep it.
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Nice... the CIC on the right does not look like it is for a 3-Series, though. Has the trim covering the CIC changed for MY2010-on?
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the one on the right is a Euro CIC.
Correct. I have no need for additional MODE or AM/FM buttons - the presets are more useful.
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the one on the right is a Euro CIC.
The shape of the plastic faceplate looked to me slightly different...
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Correct. I have no need for additional MODE or AM/FM buttons - the presets are more useful.
You can code the US CIC to enable presets for the Mode and AM/FM buttons
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Cannot wait until you guys make this process more widely available to those of us less inclined to rip apart our cars
This retrofit has been widely available for 2 months already.
If you have the CCC Navigation you can install my retrofit kit in less than an hour.
It's PnP and requires no cutting and no aftermarket parts - the complete OEM solution

Just a few sets sent out in last two weeks
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I'll install it. Just drive down to NJ.
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This retrofit has been widely available for 2 months already.
If you have the CCC Navigation you can install my retrofit kit in less than an hour.
It's PnP and requires no cutting and no aftermarket parts - the complete OEM solution

Just a few sets sent out in last two weeks

Wow you've been busy!
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Technic, How did you read the CIC from Inpa or NCS expert? I can only see CCC in inpa and NCS expert. am I doing something wrong?
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Technic, How did you read the CIC from Inpa or NCS expert? I can only see CCC in inpa and NCS expert. am I doing something wrong?
You need to change the production date to 0909 and have the correct profile files for the CIC.
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You need to change the production date to 0909 and have the correct profile files for the CIC.
do you mean the correct daten files wich support CIC? or which profile in NCS do you use? Do you change production date in NCS as well? How can you change the production date? is that value is stored in some ECUs?

I am waitting for the pay day to order the full service from Patryk but just want to get it coded first as I got no sound at moment.

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do you mean the correct daten files wich support CIC? or which profile in NCS do you use? Do you change production date in NCS as well? How can you change the production date? is that value is stored in some ECUs?

I am waitting for the pay day to order the full service from Patryk but just want to get it coded first as I got no sound at moment.
found out the production date is in OV list, coded my CIC, now I am just waiting to pay Patryk to active my Navi and VC. but the TV is not working any more, I can see the coding in CIC is set to TVM_VARIANTEN tvm_dvb_t, but I think my TV tuner is just normal tuner not a dvb_t. does that mean the new CIC will not support old TV tuner any more?

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found out the production date is in OV list, coded my CIC, now I am just waiting to pay Patryk to active my Navi and VC. but the TV is not working any more, I can see the coding in CIC is set to TVM_VARIANTEN tvm_dvb_t, but I think my TV tuner is just normal tuner not a dvb_t. does that mean the new CIC will not support old TV tuner any more?
This TV thing drive me crazy. I couldn't figure out what was the problem. I coded the CIC based on the VO list in my car, so it suppose to pick up what option my car had.

The channel search is not working. it sit there but does nothing.
the sreen is blue, and TV standard option has nothing to choose as well.

My TV was working with my CCC and it was in my car when it was brand new.

Anyone can give me some help would be great
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Patryk rocks!

Patryk helped me with my 2008 335i retrofit and it is working great! Patryk is the real deal. He is brilliant and helps you through the whole process. Highly recommended. The programming part can be quite challenging, especially if your laptop is not in tip top shape, but with perseverance Patryk will get you through it. He found me excellent parts and provided all the technical expertise to get the job done.

If you are sitting on the fence and thinking about this, you should contact Patryk. When you are finished and you have an entertainment system that is state of the art, you will be very happy that you did it. You will be proud of yourself for tackling a challenging project and succeeding. Your passengers will also be very impressed.

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