Getting the Sports Package Suspension AFTERwards - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

karbosshack · 03-28-2006, 12:44 AM

I am at a loss. I really want to lower my car now, I have standard suspension. I have 20" rims, so I want to lower my car, but I don't want to lower it too far and risk rubbing. I saw NatureBoy's car, and I see he has the sport suspension. I wish to lower it to that height.

The concern I have is that say something goes wrong and BMW blames my lowering of the car. In order to prevent this, I was hoping that I could take my car to the dealership and have them put on the sport springs? Would that solve this problem, would they charge a buttload more? Has anybody tried/thought about this? Any advice would help, thanks.

HRC · 03-28-2006, 01:47 AM

Just get a set of h&r sports or eibach prokit springs, some shocks and your there! Don't worry about warranty problems. Naturboy has H&R Sport springs, nit the sport package springs on his car.

Don't go the dealer route with zsp parts, it's cost sooo much more and it will not be as solid as aftermarket springs and shocks.

Danny

gscone · 03-28-2006, 09:49 AM

I'm sure when the dealer see's your ride on 20's, they will not warrant anything on the car. Just get some Eibach's or H&R's and you'll be set. G'Luck!

karbosshack · 03-28-2006, 12:30 PM

I don't want to run into any warranty problems. I don't think the dealer would care about 20's....why would they? It's not like it rubs or anything.

brian32e · 03-28-2006, 12:58 PM

because there's a sticker (on my car anyway) in the upper left corner of your windshield that says something like "installation of any non-BMW electronics, accessories, aftermarket wheels blah blah blah may void your warranty" and my guess it they are looking for any reason to get out of their obligation.

karbosshack · 03-28-2006, 03:39 PM

Oh well, good thing I still have the 156's. Anything happens, just slip off the 20s and vuallah!

Bimmer325 · 03-30-2006, 11:03 AM

yes,karbosshack is right, keep the original rims and tyres, springs/shocks. anything major happen (touch wood) to your car, you can always switch them back and bring the car back to the dealer and shout at them

ksfrogman · 03-30-2006, 11:09 AM

NaTuReBOY initially had the H&R Race Springs, but these rubbed his 20" wheels. He then switched to the H&R Sport springs. Both the H&R Sports and the Eibach Pro Kit springs will be slightly lower than stock ZSP springs, the Eibachs being the more conservative of the two height-wise.

karbosshack · 03-30-2006, 10:09 PM

If I go with the Eibach kit, and something goes wrong with my car, how difficult/how much money will it be to replace it back to the originals so that I can send it in to the dealer?

ksfrogman · 03-30-2006, 10:28 PM

Unless they can prove that the modification caused whatever went wrong, the change should have no impact on your warranty. A number of us paid around $350 total for the springs with installation.

HRC · 03-31-2006, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksfrogman

...A number of us paid around $350 total for the springs with installation.

Others like me are not so lucky! It really depends on your region, my springs cost $250 and $330 for the install and alignment. Another $20 to install the dampers.

Danny

karbosshack · 03-31-2006, 01:22 AM

dampers?

HRC · 03-31-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karbosshack

dampers?

Shocks = Dampers, Dampers = Shocks

Danny

karbosshack · 03-31-2006, 01:30 AM

Gotcha :-) Thanks.

chino1972 · 04-01-2006, 05:44 PM

I asked my local dealer and most of them were in agreement that if you modify anything without using OEM parts the warranty will be nullified. They couldn't even tell me how to go about lowering it to keep the warranty. Damned if you do or fall short on looks.

coupedupcivic · 04-17-2006, 11:23 AM

I have a 325xi and want to drop my car. The problem is i want zsp springs and I dont know if they will fit my car? Also if I have zsp springs will i need aftermarket shocks since i dont have zsp shocks? some guy is sellin his zsp springs on ebay for 220 plus 35 shipping used...is that a good price? lol too many questions...thanks

KL2DC · 04-17-2006, 11:52 AM

I just saw the listing for the ZSP springs

its actually $210 plus $35 shipping. Can ZSP springs be mated to non-zsp shocks with no ill effect? If aftermarket shocks are required, will it be hard to match those with the OEM retrofit ZSP springs? And who should you look for (in local area) to do the install? The dealer? regular mechanics? Any of the nation wide chain shops e.g. Midas etc?

coupedupcivic · 04-17-2006, 11:56 AM

thats what i wanna know... Im planning on buying them off him.

KL2DC · 04-17-2006, 11:59 AM

my posted questions/concerns are the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger. If you are bidding on them, I won't consider it then. Courtesy to you who spotted them first

But I am curious to know for future projects. If you do get 'em, let me know how it went...interested to see if this can be done fairly cheaply.

Oh and I guess I need to work on getting my wheels swapped out first...been getting a lot of friendly suggestions here to dump my 16s

coupedupcivic · 04-17-2006, 10:14 PM

im plannin on makin a bmw bed frame with my 16's...lol

03-28-2006, 12:44 AM	#1
karbosshack First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325i AW Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 325 iTrader: (3)	Getting the Sports Package Suspension AFTERwards I am at a loss. I really want to lower my car now, I have standard suspension. I have 20" rims, so I want to lower my car, but I don't want to lower it too far and risk rubbing. I saw NatureBoy's car, and I see he has the sport suspension. I wish to lower it to that height. The concern I have is that say something goes wrong and BMW blames my lowering of the car. In order to prevent this, I was hoping that I could take my car to the dealership and have them put on the sport springs? Would that solve this problem, would they charge a buttload more? Has anybody tried/thought about this? Any advice would help, thanks. __________________ '06 325i AW/Beige Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grill, 20" Armano Dunamis, 235/35/20 all around, 35% tint (front), 20% tint (back)

03-28-2006, 01:47 AM	#2
HRC Major General Drives: E90 330i MT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 7,234 iTrader: (6) View HRC's Garage	Just get a set of h&r sports or eibach prokit springs, some shocks and your there! Don't worry about warranty problems. Naturboy has H&R Sport springs, nit the sport package springs on his car. Don't go the dealer route with zsp parts, it's cost sooo much more and it will not be as solid as aftermarket springs and shocks. Danny __________________ Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Knob/Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" Volk CE28Ns w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers

03-28-2006, 09:49 AM	#3
gscone First Lieutenant Drives: 330I Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NY Posts: 337 iTrader: (0)	I'm sure when the dealer see's your ride on 20's, they will not warrant anything on the car. Just get some Eibach's or H&R's and you'll be set. G'Luck! __________________ 2006 330i Sparkling Graphite/Black, Burl Poplar Woodtrim, Sport Package, Premium Package, Heated front seats 2006 Infinti M45 Sport Black Obsidian/Stone/Aero Package/ Journey/Tech Package, Aero kit 2007 Lexus RX350 - Wife's car.

03-28-2006, 12:30 PM	#4
karbosshack First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325i AW Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 325 iTrader: (3)	I don't want to run into any warranty problems. I don't think the dealer would care about 20's....why would they? It's not like it rubs or anything. __________________ '06 325i AW/Beige Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grill, 20" Armano Dunamis, 235/35/20 all around, 35% tint (front), 20% tint (back)

03-28-2006, 03:39 PM	#6
karbosshack First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325i AW Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 325 iTrader: (3)	Oh well, good thing I still have the 156's. Anything happens, just slip off the 20s and vuallah! __________________ '06 325i AW/Beige Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grill, 20" Armano Dunamis, 235/35/20 all around, 35% tint (front), 20% tint (back)

03-28-2006, 12:58 PM	#5
brian32e First Lieutenant Drives: '06 Alpine White 330i ZSP Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 272 iTrader: (0)	because there's a sticker (on my car anyway) in the upper left corner of your windshield that says something like "installation of any non-BMW electronics, accessories, aftermarket wheels blah blah blah may void your warranty" and my guess it they are looking for any reason to get out of their obligation.

03-30-2006, 11:03 AM	#7
Bimmer325 Major Drives: 2006 E90 325i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: MY Posts: 1,147 iTrader: (1)	yes,karbosshack is right, keep the original rims and tyres, springs/shocks. anything major happen (touch wood) to your car, you can always switch them back and bring the car back to the dealer and shout at them __________________ 325i Arctics M-Sport, Gray Leather with Alu Trim, ///M DCT Paddleshift, ///M Gear Knob, BBS LM-R 19", Michelin PS2, KW V2, H&R Anti Roll Bars, BMW Performance Air Intake System, 3D Front Lip, ACS Roof Spoiler, OEM Boot Spoiler, Osram 6000K, Brex White Ring, PIAA 6200K HID Fog, PIAA License Plate LED

03-30-2006, 11:09 AM	#8
ksfrogman Major General Drives: E90 330i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 6,768 iTrader: (11) View ksfrogman's Garage	NaTuReBOY initially had the H&R Race Springs, but these rubbed his 20" wheels. He then switched to the H&R Sport springs. Both the H&R Sports and the Eibach Pro Kit springs will be slightly lower than stock ZSP springs, the Eibachs being the more conservative of the two height-wise. __________________

03-30-2006, 10:09 PM	#9
karbosshack First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325i AW Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 325 iTrader: (3)	If I go with the Eibach kit, and something goes wrong with my car, how difficult/how much money will it be to replace it back to the originals so that I can send it in to the dealer? __________________ '06 325i AW/Beige Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grill, 20" Armano Dunamis, 235/35/20 all around, 35% tint (front), 20% tint (back)

03-30-2006, 10:28 PM	#10
ksfrogman Major General Drives: E90 330i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 6,768 iTrader: (11) View ksfrogman's Garage	Unless they can prove that the modification caused whatever went wrong, the change should have no impact on your warranty. A number of us paid around $350 total for the springs with installation. __________________

03-31-2006, 01:22 AM	#12
karbosshack First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325i AW Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 325 iTrader: (3)	dampers? __________________ '06 325i AW/Beige Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grill, 20" Armano Dunamis, 235/35/20 all around, 35% tint (front), 20% tint (back)

03-31-2006, 01:30 AM	#14
karbosshack First Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325i AW Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 325 iTrader: (3)	Gotcha :-) Thanks. __________________ '06 325i AW/Beige Chrome Tips, Blacklines, Chrome Grill, 20" Armano Dunamis, 235/35/20 all around, 35% tint (front), 20% tint (back)

04-01-2006, 05:44 PM	#15
chino1972 Enlisted Member Drives: 325i SG Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: TX Posts: 21 iTrader: (0)	I asked my local dealer and most of them were in agreement that if you modify anything without using OEM parts the warranty will be nullified. They couldn't even tell me how to go about lowering it to keep the warranty. Damned if you do or fall short on looks.

04-17-2006, 11:23 AM	#16
coupedupcivic Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325 XI Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 100 iTrader: (1)	I have a 325xi and want to drop my car. The problem is i want zsp springs and I dont know if they will fit my car? Also if I have zsp springs will i need aftermarket shocks since i dont have zsp shocks? some guy is sellin his zsp springs on ebay for 220 plus 35 shipping used...is that a good price? lol too many questions...thanks

04-17-2006, 11:52 AM	#17
KL2DC Your Moderately Moderate Moderator Drives: E90 325i, W211 E350, W210 E55 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro Posts: 17,649 iTrader: (22) View KL2DC's Garage	I just saw the listing for the ZSP springs its actually $210 plus $35 shipping. Can ZSP springs be mated to non-zsp shocks with no ill effect? If aftermarket shocks are required, will it be hard to match those with the OEM retrofit ZSP springs? And who should you look for (in local area) to do the install? The dealer? regular mechanics? Any of the nation wide chain shops e.g. Midas etc? __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call! BMW CCA Member # 364222 Join the club...

04-17-2006, 11:56 AM	#18
coupedupcivic Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325 XI Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 100 iTrader: (1)	thats what i wanna know... Im planning on buying them off him.

04-17-2006, 11:59 AM	#19
KL2DC Your Moderately Moderate Moderator Drives: E90 325i, W211 E350, W210 E55 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: DC Metro Posts: 17,649 iTrader: (22) View KL2DC's Garage	my posted questions/concerns are the only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger. If you are bidding on them, I won't consider it then. Courtesy to you who spotted them first But I am curious to know for future projects. If you do get 'em, let me know how it went...interested to see if this can be done fairly cheaply. Oh and I guess I need to work on getting my wheels swapped out first...been getting a lot of friendly suggestions here to dump my 16s __________________ Official DC Metro Registry - Current, New & Prospective Area Members Roll Call! BMW CCA Member # 364222 Join the club...

04-17-2006, 10:14 PM	#20
coupedupcivic Second Lieutenant Drives: 2006 BMW 325 XI Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NJ Posts: 100 iTrader: (1)	im plannin on makin a bmw bed frame with my 16's...lol