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      04-05-2006, 02:17 AM   #1
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Is this for real?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-E...QQcmdZViewItem

it really works?

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      04-05-2006, 06:24 AM   #2
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Not really that useful. The quoted high cfm numbers drop drastically once the fan/blower begins to generate even a small amount of static pressure.

I you really want to do this, save yourself some money and buy a 12V boat bilge ventilator blower for a fraction of the price. A 250CFM part can be had for less than $30.

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Just to do the math on this one:

There's an air-compressor rule of thumb that states 1 HP produces 4 CFM at 100 PSI. Power = (output) airflow * pressure.

Let's look at the cfm at 1 PSI of boost. It would take a 1/2 HP to deliver 200 CFM at +1 PSI. And a HP is 745 watts. No way is a motor drawing a couple of amps @ 12 V (24 watts) going to come even close.

The air consumption of the engine depends entirely on RPM, so any pressure it does produce will fall-off very rapidly with engine RPM as well, since unlike a turbo/super-charger, there is no scaling with engine speed. At 6000rpm, a 3L engine will actually inhale in excess of 300 cfm.

These guys, in contrast, are drawing 60 amps (120 amps for the super version), making their boost claims much more reasonable. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/faq.shtml. This is very much in line with the theoretical power requirements to compress air at these rates and pressures.

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These guys, in contrast, are drawing 60 amps (120 amps for the super version), making their boost claims much more reasonable. http://www.electricsupercharger.com/faq.shtml. This is very much in line with the theoretical power requirements to compress air at these rates and pressures.
thats my friends shop. he gave me one for my 99 prelude but i never installed it.
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So if the electric motor draws big power / more juice / moves more air = electric Turbo!

is that right BO?

so in theroy it is working ... just that not powerful enuff ??
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I'm sure it does something, but you'd be looking at a tenth of a PSI at best.
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      04-06-2006, 04:54 PM   #9
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turbonator is different.

everyone should jump on this deal. this is crazy. supercharger for $300!
what a bargain!!!!!!!! that thing has been around for awhile. one of the site I goto has contract with them.

I assume it'll gain nothing but 1whp and 10pds of extra unnecessary weight.
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