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      09-08-2008, 03:06 PM   #1
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Should this be my "Out the Door" price?

Here are the wholesale/invoice prices I pulled off the '09 PDFs (E90, manual transmission):

Base----------------------$36,890
Sport Package-------------$1,955
Cold Weather Package-----$1,045
Logic 7--------------------$795
Comfort Access------------$455
Destination-------------------$825
Training----------------------$180
Dealer Profit-----------------$1,000

Out the door price---------$43,145

So would it be safe to assume if the dealer agrees to the $1k profit, I'd have to write a check for only $43,145 to get the keys in my hand?

Of course there's TTL, but paid @ the Tag Agency, NOT the dealer correct?

Oh and FYI, TTL for Oklahoma is 3.25% + $104 in fees, so TTL in this example is $1,506, which brings the grand total to $44,651. I'd get a $500 BMWCCA discount so my grand grand total is $44,151 to have a shiny brand spankin new E90 in my garage
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I don't know how it is in Oklahoma, but in CA, we have an 8.25% sales tax. I don't see this in your calculations. Also, in CA, TTL is paid to the dealer, but it's a lot less than what you have listed.

If you don't have sales tax, then yeah, that looks to be the right price out the door.
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I thought that's the whole point of TTL: Tax, Title, License!!!

F me running if I have to pay SALES Tax on TOP of TTL. Sales tax in Oklahoma is 8.517%!!!! That's $3,675!!!

Crap... the T in TTL is EXCISE tax.. NOT Sales tax... F me!!! :ripped: :bendover: :nolube:
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I thought that's the whole point of TTL: Tax, Title, License!!!

F me running if I have to pay SALES Tax on TOP of TTL. Sales tax in Oklahoma is 8.517%!!!! That's $3,675!!!
Yes, sorry, TTL is the whole kit and kaboodle. It includes sales tax, title, and license. So yes, that 3675 looks right. Here's what I do when buying a car. I take whatever the final number for the car is going to be and add 10%. This gives me a pretty accurate estimate of what I'll be paying out the door.
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I talked to some local car guys and the tag agency, and they say I only need to do the TTL ($1,500)... NOT sales tax... whew!!!
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Here are the wholesale/invoice prices I pulled off the '09 PDFs (E90, manual transmission):

Base----------------------$36,890
Sport Package-------------$1,955
Cold Weather Package-----$1,045
Logic 7--------------------$795
Comfort Access------------$455
Destination-------------------$825
Training----------------------$180
Dealer Profit-----------------$1,000

Out the door price---------$43,145

So would it be safe to assume if the dealer agrees to the $1k profit, I'd have to write a check for only $43,145 to get the keys in my hand?

Of course there's TTL, but paid @ the Tag Agency, NOT the dealer correct?

Oh and FYI, TTL for Oklahoma is 3.25% + $104 in fees, so TTL in this example is $1,506, which brings the grand total to $44,651. I'd get a $500 BMWCCA discount so my grand grand total is $44,151 to have a shiny brand spankin new E90 in my garage
I take it you're ordering the car to spec? But yeah, given the Oklahoma sales tax, the #'s seem right. I wouldn't budge on em either, especially if you're ordering the car to spec, since then it's not part of their allotment.
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Yeah, it'll be an order to spec. And I'm not in a rush so if an OK/OKC dealer doesn't wanna play the "$1k over invoice" game, I'll just take my biz down to the plethora of TX Dealers
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Wait, so you don't pay sales tax on a car purchase in OK? How's that work?
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How are you calculating "dealer profit"? Is it $1000 above MSRP or $1000 above invoice price?

NM i read post #7. The new Invoice prices look like the old MSRP prices...

Wow, that's $6k (17% increase from last year) for a facelift and a heated stearing wheel.
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      09-09-2008, 12:36 PM   #10
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Wait, so you don't pay sales tax on a car purchase in OK? How's that work?
I guess we only pay excise tax

Yeah ptx1, prices increased a nice chunk this year
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