426whp Boost-only 335i in Eurotuner?? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Accel Junky · 09-12-2008, 04:53 PM

Just got my latest issue, suprised to see a BMW (for once). The owner claims 426whp with Active Autowerke software, exhaust and BOV, RPI intercooler, ram air scoops. It says he had Nitrous Express intercooler spray kit, but wasn't used on the dyno. Seems like major BS to me, but I'm ready to be corrected.

Anyone else see this? It's the October issue.

NRG · 09-12-2008, 05:00 PM

426hp, but not at the wheel. Most likely 426-15%=362whp.

Accel Junky · 09-12-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NRG

426hp, but not at the wheel. Most likely 426-15%=362whp.

Says whp in the article in several places. 290whp baseline dyno, 426whp after mods, then it says "with a gain 136whp...".

I'm sure they made some egregious errors, but I thought I'd bring it up

NRG · 09-12-2008, 05:18 PM

They must be terribly wrong, but who knows.

ScoopThis · 09-12-2008, 05:22 PM

Those are VIP style numbers.

JoeyFiasco · 09-12-2008, 05:23 PM

baseline 290? completely stock?

RiXst3r · 09-12-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyFiasco

baseline 290? completely stock?

probably just a stock map, with the bolt on mods still in place.

1clean335i · 09-12-2008, 07:29 PM

Now I gotta go get a copy and see for myself... Do they have a dyno pictured?

scalbert · 09-12-2008, 07:34 PM

I saw the cover but have never been a fan of ET. I suppose I will pickk this one up to browse. At least they have something about on the GT powered B5 S4's from what I recall.

Accel Junky · 09-12-2008, 07:41 PM

No dyno chart of course.

Accel Junky · 09-12-2008, 07:45 PM

Yep, eurotuner isn't great. Very vw heavy.

OverSpun · 09-12-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Accel Junky

Yep, eurotuner isn't great. Very vw heavy.

Yea, thats exactly why I cancelled my subscription years ago.

BmwFanFL · 09-12-2008, 11:59 PM

I'm tired, so it sounds like a really good throttle remapper to me -- goes to 200%, now known as 2WOT, where you stamp both feet at once...

Expected HPFP lifetime with this mod, 9 months - same as stock

335iheLLraiseR · 09-13-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BmwFanny

I'm tired, so it sounds like a really good throttle remapper to me -- goes to 200%, now known as 2WOT, where you stamp both feet at once...

Expected HPFP lifetime with this mod, 9 months - same as stock

?

hun77777 · 09-13-2008, 05:39 AM

whoever dyno'd it, must've made some major mistake or purposely put some BS numbers to it...

CASHBY · 09-13-2008, 12:47 PM

yea, dont always trust what EUROTUNER says.

I had a feature in Eurotuner on my built big turbo A4... and half the things they said about my car were way off!

BmwFanFL · 09-13-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iheLLraiseR

?

It was my way of calling bs on the article - though I haven't read it. throttle remapping makes cars feel faster -- so I was comparing it to that myth.

I don't believe even a heavily modded 335i can get to 426wph without replacing either the engine or the turbos.

The tunes/piggybacks known here would have a few cars on the road, at least for brief periods, in that range otherwise. If a turbo replacement is out there, I think someone here would know. It would also need a custom tune, most like likely based on other n54 hardware/flash tunes. I know some are working on turbo upgrades -- but haven't heard of success yet.

If I'm wrong in my guess, it would be cool to see the set of mods that gets a few brave souls to 426wph for a brief period (IMO).

Hunter399 · 09-13-2008, 09:39 PM

I havent had a chance to see the mag.
What color is the featured 335?

Leebro61 · 09-14-2008, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlie@RissRacing

yea, dont always trust what EUROTUNER says.

I had a feature in Eurotuner on my built big turbo A4... and half the things they said about my car were way off!

Several of my friends have had feature articles where Eurotuner never asked them what power the car made (or even if the car had been dynoed), yet the article comes out and outrageous numbers are there in big print!

The magazine isn't really about being technically/factually correct. If that's what you are wanting, then look elsewhere...

m5driver77 · 09-14-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

probably just a stock map, with the bolt on mods still in place.

My car was 287WHP when it was stock so 290 should be possible me thinks

thegeneral101 · 09-14-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oslotdriver

My car was 287WHP when it was stock so 290 should be possible me thinks

we are not debating that number

nespharym · 09-16-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hunter399

I havent had a chance to see the mag.
What color is the featured 335?

Baseline dyno was 290 at the wheel, and we continued to dyno the vehicle after each performance modification. Eurotuner knows printing every dyno sheet probably wouldn't get more subscriptions, in addition, there will always be someone to throw the bs flag. After doing this for several years, I have come to realize that even if you laminate the dyno sheet and keep it in your vehicle, there will always be someone who will not believe the print.
Unfortunately, I do not have any intention to have a huge get together with all the nay sayers with my car on a dyno so they can get a warm and fuzzy about the numbers.
Maybe the next BMW I build will have a video documentary of each dyno posted on U-tube so these threads will cease...and maybe not. I thank Sam for the title, cause like Katt Williams says "let haters hate, what else are they gonna do"

09-12-2008, 04:53 PM	#1
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09-12-2008, 07:41 PM	#10
Accel Junky High on Acceleration Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 605 iTrader: (5)	No dyno chart of course. __________________ 2008 Ducati 848 - Graves CF pipes, home-made fender eliminator

09-12-2008, 07:45 PM	#11
Accel Junky High on Acceleration Drives: 2008 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 605 iTrader: (5)	Yep, eurotuner isn't great. Very vw heavy. __________________ 2008 Ducati 848 - Graves CF pipes, home-made fender eliminator

09-13-2008, 09:39 PM	#18
Hunter399 Major General Drives: F30 335i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 7,751 iTrader: (30)	I havent had a chance to see the mag. What color is the featured 335? Last edited by Hunter399; 09-14-2008 at 09:52 AM.

09-12-2008, 05:00 PM	#2
NRG Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 1,659 iTrader: (5)	426hp, but not at the wheel. Most likely 426-15%=362whp.

09-12-2008, 05:18 PM	#4
NRG Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2012 X5 35d Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 1,659 iTrader: (5)	They must be terribly wrong, but who knows.

09-12-2008, 05:22 PM	#5
ScoopThis Banned Drives: E92 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 38 iTrader: (0)	Those are VIP style numbers.

09-12-2008, 05:23 PM	#6
JoeyFiasco Major Drives: '09 Coupe Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: P'boro, UK Posts: 1,214 iTrader: (0)	baseline 290? completely stock?

09-12-2008, 07:34 PM	#9
scalbert Major General Drives: '08 E90 M3, '13 Volt, '08 Ody Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 5,640 iTrader: (6)	I saw the cover but have never been a fan of ET. I suppose I will pickk this one up to browse. At least they have something about on the GT powered B5 S4's from what I recall.

09-12-2008, 11:59 PM	#13
BmwFanFL Second Lieutenant Drives: 2008 - 335i - Cobb stg 1 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Very Hot, Humid, Southeast Posts: 216 iTrader: (0)	I'm tired, so it sounds like a really good throttle remapper to me -- goes to 200%, now known as 2WOT, where you stamp both feet at once... Expected HPFP lifetime with this mod, 9 months - same as stock

09-13-2008, 05:39 AM	#15
hun77777 Brigadier General Drives: SG E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,596 iTrader: (58)	whoever dyno'd it, must've made some major mistake or purposely put some BS numbers to it...

09-13-2008, 12:47 PM	#16
CASHBY Drives: E90 335 "done up" Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: GARAGE Posts: 2,118 iTrader: (2)	yea, dont always trust what EUROTUNER says. I had a feature in Eurotuner on my built big turbo A4... and half the things they said about my car were way off!

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