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      09-11-2008, 11:35 AM   #1
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Just a quick bit of information. I know this forum is filled with track junkies all wondering the same thing I have been wondering. "What can I run without issues on the road course?" Nothing is more annoying than making a wonderful pass then going into limp mode!

So far, I've run V1, V2 and now for the first time V3 at VIR. One word.....awesome! Im running the low boost map right now on 93 and still eating most everything for lunch. No limps, no problems, just smooth power.

Now If I can get my BOV to stop blowing the hose clamps off, that would be wonderful!
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Just a quick bit of information. I know this forum is filled with track junkies all wondering the same thing I have been wondering. "What can I run without issues on the road course?" Nothing is more annoying than making a wonderful pass then going into limp mode!

So far, I've run V1, V2 and now for the first time V3 at VIR. One word.....awesome! Im running the low boost map right now on 93 and still eating most everything for lunch. No limps, no problems, just smooth power.

Now If I can get my BOV to stop blowing the hose clamps off, that would be wonderful!
Great to hear! It's nice to see lots of guys roadracing their v3'd cars these days. Brings a happy tear to my eye. Have you tried the latest beta maps that we posted a few days ago?

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Just a quick bit of information. I know this forum is filled with track junkies all wondering the same thing I have been wondering. "What can I run without issues on the road course?" Nothing is more annoying than making a wonderful pass then going into limp mode!

So far, I've run V1, V2 and now for the first time V3 at VIR. One word.....awesome! Im running the low boost map right now on 93 and still eating most everything for lunch. No limps, no problems, just smooth power.

Now If I can get my BOV to stop blowing the hose clamps off, that would be wonderful!
Go spend a couple bucks on T-Bolt clamps and you will not have an issue with that again... Hose clamps that come with the kits are pretty much garbage...
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      09-11-2008, 02:05 PM   #5
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How are your temperatures running?
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      09-11-2008, 02:22 PM   #6
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Just a quick bit of information. I know this forum is filled with track junkies all wondering the same thing I have been wondering. "What can I run without issues on the road course?" Nothing is more annoying than making a wonderful pass then going into limp mode!

So far, I've run V1, V2 and now for the first time V3 at VIR. One word.....awesome! Im running the low boost map right now on 93 and still eating most everything for lunch. No limps, no problems, just smooth power.

Now If I can get my BOV to stop blowing the hose clamps off, that would be wonderful!

Very cool! Great work Vishnu!
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      09-11-2008, 03:25 PM   #7
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Great to hear! It's nice to see lots of guys roadracing their v3'd cars these days. Brings a happy tear to my eye. Have you tried the latest beta maps that we posted a few days ago?

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Id love to, but Im still running the non fuel, non dual relay hack job I made myself If Mr. Calbert can remember what goes where, I will fix it up to run the latest and greatest

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Go spend a couple bucks on T-Bolt clamps and you will not have an issue with that again... Hose clamps that come with the kits are pretty much garbage...
I agree 100%. I found out its a combination of problems that resulted in the rubber slipping off. 1) A years worth of oil was in there and 2) the DIY BOV doesnt have long enough flanges to clamp to. I bought some friction tape and it works fantastic now!

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How are your temperatures running?
Glad you asked, its running right at 250.

Also, a side note. There is another forum memeber that met up with me who is running an Turbo Tuner. In the past he has run JB and Procede products. His temps are also running the same. Both of us are limp free.

Im going to run this last "free" session with the high boost map. Lets see how that pans out.
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If Mr. Calbert can remember what goes where, I will fix it up to run the latest and greatest
Thanks for the reminder. I have it out of the car right now also...
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      09-11-2008, 03:33 PM   #9
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Im going to run this last "free" session with the high boost map. Lets see how that pans out.
If you are going to run full boost in road racing environment, best to mix in some race gas. Otherwise you may generate too high of a charge temp for pump gas to support safety and consistently.

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V3 has been excellent at the track - smooth, powerful, and most importantly, trouble free. Well done.

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Just a quick bit of information. I know this forum is filled with track junkies all wondering the same thing I have been wondering. "What can I run without issues on the road course?" Nothing is more annoying than making a wonderful pass then going into limp mode!

So far, I've run V1, V2 and now for the first time V3 at VIR. One word.....awesome! Im running the low boost map right now on 93 and still eating most everything for lunch. No limps, no problems, just smooth power.

Now If I can get my BOV to stop blowing the hose clamps off, that would be wonderful!
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      09-12-2008, 07:35 AM   #11
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If you are going to run full boost in road racing environment, best to mix in some race gas. Otherwise you may generate too high of a charge temp for pump gas to support safety and consistently.

Cheers,
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You've mentioned that before, and I agree. I couldnt justify the @ track 105 octane prices so I only ran part of the last session on the high boost map. Figured if it limped out, I was heading home anyway But yes, Id definately recommend race gas for anyone planning to run a full session (or all day) with a high boost map.

Regardless, Im glad to report, high boost map worked lovely. On peak recall I saw just over 16psi max. Id imagine that was when running out 4th gear up to 145mph or so Oil temps rose about 5~10 degrees max over the low boost map.

I still cant keep up with the Advanced class 997T guys with full race setups. In the straights its not too bad but in the corners, Im getting destroyed. Its time to run some R comps and coils. (as if that will help my heavy ass car )
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      09-12-2008, 08:40 AM   #12
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Might do an event before the winter nice to know!!

Been running limp mode free since install as well!
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Woo! That was fun. This was my first track day in the 335 and I had a blast. SSTT did pretty well out there too..... not as quick as the procede or JB2 I had before, but I was pretty impressed with it, especially in the higher rpms. After a few hard laps I thought I felt a little bit of hesitation in it, so I threw in a few gallons of 100 octane and that seemed to take care of it. High temp during the 30 min run was right around 250.

I agree with M3to335 though..... you can definitely tell these are heavy ass cars out there. We would need some pretty big suspension mods to keep up with the advanced/race setup guys through the curves. My car is stock with the exception of the SSTT and PS2's.
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What run groups are you guys in?

I'm getting 285 oil temps with EASE when I run tracks at 2000ft elevation. That was with the stock oil cooler.

I bring a few 2.5 gallon cans full of unleaded 105 to the track. Yeah, I have to keep the sunroof open and blast the fan, otherwise I pass out, lol. You could also run NOS Off-road formula, which I've found to actually reduce timing retard (via data logging).

And coilovers and r-comps help, especially if you can get some camber up front. I'm within 2 seconds of a stock Z06 on a 2 minute track. Stock 911 and 911S have no chance.
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      09-12-2008, 01:29 PM   #15
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I still cant keep up with the Advanced class 997T guys with full race setups. In the straights its not too bad but in the corners, Im getting destroyed. Its time to run some R comps and coils. (as if that will help my heavy ass car )
The weight difference is 55 pounds...so I guess that makes 997tt a heavy ass car too ... especially since it's not as balanced having the most of its weight just there in the ass side
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What run groups are you guys in?

I'm getting 285 oil temps with EASE when I run tracks at 2000ft elevation. That was with the stock oil cooler.

I bring a few 2.5 gallon cans full of unleaded 105 to the track. Yeah, I have to keep the sunroof open and blast the fan, otherwise I pass out, lol. You could also run NOS Off-road formula, which I've found to actually reduce timing retard (via data logging).

And coilovers and r-comps help, especially if you can get some camber up front. I'm within 2 seconds of a stock Z06 on a 2 minute track. Stock 911 and 911S have no chance.
Spiralout is running novice. I was running solo intermediate. The last run of the day was a free-for-all. Everyone was out there!

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The weight difference is 55 pounds...so I guess that makes 997tt a heavy ass car too ... especially since it's not as balanced having the most of its weight just there in the ass side
Nah, this was no stock 997tt The particular one I was talking about was gutted and setup as a "track car". My car gets groceries and takes Sunday drives
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lol my bov hose kept on popping off too.. once i switch to the new maps.. it start poppin off everytime i step on it..
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lol my bov hose kept on popping off too.. once i switch to the new maps.. it start poppin off everytime i step on it..
get rid of the bov already and get some Forge DVs....It will save you time of fixing the the piping everytime you WOT...Can be embarrasing when your racing someone!!!lol
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lol i was actually plannin to get rid of it .. and get some forge DVs lol..
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lol i was actually plannin to get rid of it .. and get some forge DVs lol..
Yeah they work well as far as holding boost and releasing it...you won't hear tooo much of the whooosh sound though!! Yo the new V3 maps are working great!!!
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BOV works fantastic. Im not getting rid of it due to a slipping hose, thats silly. The hose issue is 100% resolved now.

Nebz, pick up 80 cents worth of friction tape (looks like sandpaper with sticky backing) and run it around the flange. There is no way in hell its coming off after that.
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