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      01-25-2016, 05:25 PM   #1
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Which 335i disk/pad combo is best?

So I'm currently running standard BMW brakes all-round on my car but after a couple of hard braking instances, i suffer really bad brake fade. Current pads and disks are in good nick, all changed within last 8-12 months

If anyone has ever driven in Milton Keynes, I can blast between maybe 2 roundabouts before the brakes go

So I'm thinking of upgrading them, which combo do folks recommend?
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      01-25-2016, 05:50 PM   #2
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Brake fade from regular street driving? There must be something up with your brakes.
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      01-25-2016, 06:08 PM   #3
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Doesn't sound right to me. I regularly do the MK 'shuffle' and never had brake fade issues. If you're looking to improve braking performance, then braided hoses, 5.1 fluid and Pagid RS29 pads would do the trick on an OE caliper and disc set up. The pads will cause more aggressive wear on the disc though.
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      01-25-2016, 07:09 PM   #4
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For street use the OEM combo is pretty decent. I had some fade up and down the mountains in France when fully loaded. I'd have to drive pretty hard and dangerously to get that level of fade on normal roads.

Surprising you can get it in MK. A run between roundabouts will cool the brakes a lot anyway.
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      01-26-2016, 03:10 AM   #5
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Break fade between the roundabouts in MK? Something wrong there. Brake fade usually occurs after long sustained braking, such as alpine driving descents.
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      01-26-2016, 04:28 AM   #6
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I had fade on high speed runs in the 335i. The oem pads are not very good once they get hot.

Ebc slotted high carbon discs with yellow pads are a popular combo on this forum.

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      01-26-2016, 04:52 AM   #7
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I think braided hoses is a good place to start bearing in mind the original hoses are coming on to 9 years old.

Any recommendations? Goodridge hoses any good?
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I work in MK and blast around the roads and round abouts quite a bit and my brakes work really well.

I had the EBC yellow stuff before and although they are very good they did produce a lot of brake dust.

I recently switched to Zimmerman drilled discs front and rear and Akebono pads front and rear. These brakes are very good and don’t produce much brake dust either. I can highly recommend that setup on standard 335i callipers.
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I work in MK and blast around the roads and round abouts quite a bit and my brakes work really well.

I had the EBC yellow stuff before and although they are very good they did produce a lot of brake dust.

I recently switched to Zimmerman drilled discs front and rear and Akebono pads front and rear. These brakes are very good and donít produce much brake dust either. I can highly recommend that setup on standard 335i callipers.
Also highly recommend the above. I too run Zimmerman Drilled Discs and Akebono pads. Literally minimal brake dust whereas OEM was ridiculous in comparison!
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Any links to these pads?
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Tried and tested from myself with a tuned 4xx bhp 335i before.

EBC yellow pads
any disc
Renew brake hoses
400% better braking than you will have!
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I have ebc ultimax discs and yellow stuff pads. ATE Super Blue fluid and goodridge hoses. Only time i got brake fade with these was at a track on the 4th/5th or 6th lap, which is very good for a road pad.

They do produce more dust, but with brake pads there's always a negative, unless you spend a lot. Just gotta decide whats important
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      02-11-2016, 12:52 PM   #13
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So i had some Goodridge braided brake lines installed yesterday and its made a massive difference. Braking is real sharp now, how it was when i first got the car.

Defo recommend having this mod done
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Tried and tested from myself with a tuned 4xx bhp 335i before.

EBC yellow pads
any disc
Renew brake hoses
400% better braking than you will have!
+1 to this.

I don't drive a 335 but I recently went round the pads/disc and changed from OEM to Brembo high carbon discs, yellow stuff pads, new hoses (not braided) and Motul RBF600 fluid change. Couldn't believe the difference it made, used once on a track day and they performed excellently with no brake fade over 2-3 lap bursts. As mentioned, they do dust more than standard but it's a fair price to pay!
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So i had some Goodridge braided brake lines installed yesterday and its made a massive difference. Braking is real sharp now, how it was when i first got the car.

Defo recommend having this mod done
Where do you guys buy the hoses?

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I think braided hoses is a good place to start bearing in mind the original hoses are coming on to 9 years old.

Any recommendations? Goodridge hoses any good?
goodridge one of the best.
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I had braided hoses, uprated fluid and Pagid RS29's on my old M3CS. Made a huge difference to the stopping power, but the pads killed the standard disc and also made a mess of the paint on the alloys. However, they were very effective.

My 335i will need discs after the winter, so I'm probably going to stick with OEM, but might fit braided hoses. It needs a brake fluid change in April anyway.
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Where do you guys buy the hoses?

WM
I bought mine direct from the Goodridge website Couldn't find them cheaper anywhere else
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I bought mine direct from the Goodridge website Couldn't find them cheaper anywhere else
Cheers. I'm taking the calipers off for paint soon and I want to swap the hoses out at the same time.

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Cheers. I'm taking the calipers off for paint soon and I want to swap the hoses out at the same time.

WM
It can be a pain in the arse depending on how old your car is. My pipes had rusted at either end and apparently theres a longer thread going into the caliper so the garage warned me that if it snaps inside the caliper, at best they could try to machine it out, at worse I'd need new callipers. Fortunately they got lucky and it came away ok.

In the kit you get 6 pipes, one for each corner and 2 for the pipes that go from front to rear. The garage chose not to replace those 2 on my car because of the above mentioned rusting. If it had gone wrong Id need new lines which travel all the way down the car, round the fuel tank etc. Even without those done, my braking has been massively improved.
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It can be a pain in the arse depending on how old your car is. My pipes had rusted at either end and apparently theres a longer thread going into the caliper so the garage warned me that if it snaps inside the caliper, at best they could try to machine it out, at worse I'd need new callipers. Fortunately they got lucky and it came away ok.

In the kit you get 6 pipes, one for each corner and 2 for the pipes that go from front to rear. The garage chose not to replace those 2 on my car because of the above mentioned rusting. If it had gone wrong Id need new lines which travel all the way down the car, round the fuel tank etc. Even without those done, my braking has been massively improved.
Cheers.
My car is a 2010 so I'm hoping it hasn't rusted just yet!

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      02-14-2016, 04:29 PM   #22
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I'm really puzzled about these Yellowstuff pads.

They were shit years ago, had a really bad reputation, every forum i used had warnings against using anything from EBC, and it stuck with me for the past 10 years. Then I came on here when i got the E90 last year and everyone was raving about them, supposed to be much improved etc etc.

The E90 has standard Jurid pads and Febi disks and the brakes are great, but i felt the brakes on the wifes Audi were lacking a bit and it needed new front disks and pads, so i decided to treat it to some yellowstuff...

And they're bloody awful. The standard Jurid pads i've got on the E90 are MUCH MUCH better. The Yellowstuff are wooden, give a horrible pedal feel, first mild press from cold feels great but try to stop quickly and they just go all weird. The braking doesnt increase linearly with pedal effort which makes the pedal feel really strange, give them a couple hard squeezes and they just stop working as though you've got full on pad fade, despite there being no way they can have got hot enough for that...

I dont drive it very much and the wife doesnt drive very fast and hasnt really noticed, but i drove it today and had a few moments approaching roundabouts where i was almost out the seat standing on the pedal trying to get the bloody thing to stop... In an emergency situation they would be quite simply dangerous.
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