[chippped]

what up guys ive been searching the internet for new software update for the Active autowerk Processor i was woundering if there is a new update available and where i can get it .


tnxx

[cn555ic]

AA has pretty much left the radar and no one has heard from them for a while.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by chippped

what up guys ive been searching the internet for new software update for the Active autowerk Processor i was woundering if there is a new update available and where i can get it .


tnxx

Yes, the update is called the "PROcede v3" or "JB3." Although AA has a good reputation in BMW tuning, they decided to remain with older generation technology and didn't really improve upon their product(s) for the N54 F/I tt engine (although they "market" their decision to consumers as "a compromise between power and safety." Yes, after their AA XEDE, they came out with their "AA Processor" piggyback, but it's not PnP (like the PROcede v3 and JB3), doesn't work in the same fashion as the other two, and doesn't offer similar features and scalability.

Apparently, their forte (in the past) has been to produce F/I kits, exhausts, and other tuning products for older N/A BMW's such as the E46 M3. Although some ppl still run with their AA Processor (or AA XEDE), their marketshare is low compared with Vishnu, BMS, and Dinan (although ECU Flash and not piggyback).

Basically, AA missed the boat AND then dropped the ball. G/L getting a s/w update for the AA Processor. If I were you, I would throw the AA Processor in the trash and order either a PROcede v3 PnP or JB3 PnP and enjoy!

[Flat Out 32]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Yes, the update is called the "PROcede v3" or "JB3." Although AA has a good reputation in BMW tuning, they decided to remain with older generation technology and didn't really improve upon their product(s) for the N54 F/I tt engine (although they "market" their decision to consumers as "a compromise between power and safety." Yes, after their AA XEDE, they came out with their "AA Processor" piggyback, but it's not PnP (like the PROcede v3 and JB3), doesn't work in the same fashion as the other two, and doesn't offer similar features and scalability.

Apparently, their forte (in the past) has been to produce F/I kits, exhausts, and other tuning products for older N/A BMW's such as the E46 M3. Although some ppl still run with their AA Processor (or AA XEDE), their marketshare is low compared with Vishnu, BMS, and Dinan (although ECU Flash and not piggyback).

Basically, AA missed the boat AND then dropped the ball. G/L getting a s/w update for the AA Processor. If I were you, I would throw the AA Processor in the trash and order either a PROcede v3 PnP or JB3 PnP and enjoy!

This is really bad news....

[E90AWMT]

I have the AA processor and love it. maybe not as much power but still very nice. Maybe next year I treat myself to a JB3

Cheers

[SV Concepts]

Without getting toooo far into it, AA is beyond a doubt the east coast DINAN in the sense that they are the only tuner (besides DINAN) that has been in the industry for over a quarter of a DECADE. No tuner has the experience, expertise, or brand following that they (and Dinan) have, and to say that they "dropped the ball" on their 335 products is a bit of an overstatement. Their tuning is not the most aggressive, by any means, but it is one of the few that you can upload new software to. DINAN isn't very aggressive, either, but many choose their exhausts or supercharger kits over the alternatives.

We feel that AA is one of the most reputable tuners in the industry, and we have had a great experience with their products on our own 335i. With that said, they aren't the only option, and that's why we offer a few options.

We hear great things about Vishnu and the Juicebox, and they make great power, but some people prefer a name guarantee - which is what Active offers.
JL

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Jlevi SW

Without getting toooo far into it, AA is beyond a doubt the east coast DINAN in the sense that they are the only tuner (besides DINAN) that has been in the industry for over a quarter of a DECADE. No tuner has the experience, expertise, or brand following that they (and Dinan) have, and to say that they "dropped the ball" on their 335 products is a bit of an overstatement. Their tuning is not the most aggressive, by any means, but it is one of the few that you can upload new software to. DINAN isn't very aggressive, either, but many choose their exhausts or supercharger kits over the alternatives.

We feel that AA is one of the most reputable tuners in the industry, and we have had a great experience with their products on our own 335i. With that said, they aren't the only option, and that's why we offer a few options.

We hear great things about Vishnu and the Juicebox, and they make great power, but some people prefer a name guarantee - which is what Active offers.
JL

Not doubting some of what you say (e.g. their reputation and years in the industry), but with all due respect, you sell many of their products, including their AA Processor. So you have a vested interest in the success of their products.

http://www.jlevistreetwerks.com/BMW-...a0j1j06fkk5363

I never said their "other" 335i/135i/535i products are sub-par to the competition (e.g. their AA FMIC, exhaust, etc.). I guess they just dropped the ball on their N54 ecu tune (AA Processor, AA XEDE) in terms of what the competitive products offer.

btw -- I have purchased from your company in the past, so I have absolutely nothing against JLeviSW; in fact, I believe your company is a quality company with quality products and customer service and I would highly recommend you guys.

[Andras]

A pal of mine dynoed his 135i at 395hp at the crank thanks to AA, RR DP, FMI.
Not bad I would say, and not even a trace of a single limp

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Andras

A pal of mine dynoed his 135i at 395hp at the crank thanks to AA, RR DP, FMI.
Not bad I would say, and not even a trace of a single limp

395 at the crank with those mods isnt that great. Get a JB3 and you will be at 390 hp to the wheels

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Not doubting some of what you say (e.g. their reputation and years in the industry), but with all due respect, you sell many of their products, including their AA Processor. So you have a vested interest in the success of their products.

http://www.jlevistreetwerks.com/BMW-...a0j1j06fkk5363

I never said their "other" 335i/135i/535i products are sub-par to the competition (e.g. their AA FMIC, exhaust, etc.). I guess they just dropped the ball on their N54 ecu tune (AA Processor, AA XEDE) in terms of what the competitive products offer.

btw -- I have purchased from your company in the past, so I have absolutely nothing against JLeviSW; in fact, I believe your company is a quality company with quality products and customer service and I would highly recommend you guys.

Dear Board,

First of all I want to apologize for all the lies posted by Sflgator. We have gone through this several times in the past and it is somewhat disappointing to see him continuing with his same tactics. I will reply to the OP below.

Sorry for the delay in releasing new maps but we do have a couple maps available on our site for immediate download. http://www.activeautowerke.com/download-software.aspx

The main reason we do not come out with new maps on a daily basis is because our original ones work well. We do not believe in using customers cars as "test cars" so we do all of our testing prior to releasing these new maps to make sure you have no reliability problems. Since our tunes do work well the first time we do not have to release new harnesses or units on a monthly basis to fix issues, I believe this is the most confusing part to our customers because they see companies introducing a new Version and they wonder "what happened to AA ?"....Well the answer is nothing happened to AA we are still here and we are still supporting the AA Processor and all of our other products. In the rare case that a customers car does not work with one of our available maps we do modify these tunes to rectify the issue. In the next week or two we will have the street and race gas maps for DP's and intercooler upgrades available on our new site. Our new site has been a continued work in progress and we are working very diligently to have everything uploaded in a timely manner. Once again we thank you for your patience. Remember if you need assistance immediately or a tuned map please do not hesitate to contact our engineering department directly so they can assist you.

Although we have created custom maps for cars equipped with DP's, Intercoolers, etc. we do not max out these tunes or "push" these car to the limits because we feel that longevity is more important than an additional 5-15 HP. We have tuned several N54's aggressively for the track and street including 2 N54's that were featured in this years One Lap of America. Both cars were successful and more importantly their teams were pleased with their respective cars performance.

With that said if you are looking for the perfect compromise of power and longevity then Active Autowerke is the way to go. If you are looking for something a little bit more aggressive and have the mods to support it then Active Autowerke has something for you as well.

Once again to the OP thank you for your patience and feel free to contact us directly if you have any other questions or concerns.

Any of you that are interested in the Processor or any other 335 products please feel free to contact JLevi for assistance and special E90Post pricing.

Best Regards,

[Andras]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

395 at the crank with those mods isnt that great. Get a JB3 and you will be at 390 hp to the wheels

In the US, maybe, where dynos are famous to "gift" horsepowers in a classical Santa Claus-style, come to Europe (to Italy) to the same dyno my pal used, and let's see those 390whp by JB3

[e90AW335i]

Originally Posted by Andras

In the US, maybe, where dynos are famous to "gift" horsepowers in a classical Santa Claus-style, come to Europe (to Italy) to the same dyno my pal used, and let's see those 390whp by JB3

I would love to come to Italy and show you what a JB3 can do.....

Pay for my round-trip ticket and hotels and I will bring a JB3 with me!

[Andras]

Originally Posted by e90AW335i

I would love to come to Italy and show you what a JB3 can do.....

Pay for my round-trip ticket and hotels and I will bring a JB3 with me!

Dude you run a chipped BMW, you're supposed to afford such ticket!

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Dear Board,

First of all I want to apologize for all the lies posted by Sflgator. We have gone through this several times in the past and it is somewhat disappointing to see him continuing with his same tactics. I will reply to the OP below.

Sorry for the delay in releasing new maps but we do have a couple maps available on our site for immediate download. http://www.activeautowerke.com/download-software.aspx

The main reason we do not come out with new maps on a daily basis is because our original ones work well. We do not believe in using customers cars as "test cars" so we do all of our testing prior to releasing these new maps to make sure you have no reliability problems. Since our tunes do work well the first time we do not have to release new harnesses or units on a monthly basis to fix issues, I believe this is the most confusing part to our customers because they see companies introducing a new Version and they wonder "what happened to AA ?"....Well the answer is nothing happened to AA we are still here and we are still supporting the AA Processor and all of our other products. In the rare case that a customers car does not work with one of our available maps we do modify these tunes to rectify the issue. In the next week or two we will have the street and race gas maps for DP's and intercooler upgrades available on our new site. Our new site has been a continued work in progress and we are working very diligently to have everything uploaded in a timely manner. Once again we thank you for your patience. Remember if you need assistance immediately or a tuned map please do not hesitate to contact our engineering department directly so they can assist you.

Although we have created custom maps for cars equipped with DP's, Intercoolers, etc. we do not max out these tunes or "push" these car to the limits because we feel that longevity is more important than an additional 5-15 HP. We have tuned several N54's aggressively for the track and street including 2 N54's that were featured in this years One Lap of America. Both cars were successful and more importantly their teams were pleased with their respective cars performance.

With that said if you are looking for the perfect compromise of power and longevity then Active Autowerke is the way to go. If you are looking for something a little bit more aggressive and have the mods to support it then Active Autowerke has something for you as well.

Once again to the OP thank you for your patience and feel free to contact us directly if you have any other questions or concerns.

Any of you that are interested in the Processor or any other 335 products please feel free to contact JLevi for assistance and special E90Post pricing.

Best Regards,

What lies, Omar? If anything, I was a bit inaccurate, and for that, I apologize. What are my "tactics?" I have no "tactics" involved in stating my opinion about your product. You act as if I have some sort of vested interest or agenda in any of these companies or products. I can assure you and the rest of E90Post.com, I do not. But, at least my so-called "lies" actually got you to release more info and any new AA Processor map updates for those guys with your AA Processor installed on their cars.

Now that you're finally here again, some more questions...is the AA Processor now PnP like the PROcede v3 and JB3? Does it now control the same things these other piggybacks control; e.g. -- controls overboost protection/valet trigger, controls boost level as a function of rpm, throttle, IAT, but also rate of boost rise to deter knock events, controls fuel pressure to ensure that there is no enrichment delay? Also, has the AA Processor been tested to ensure invisibility to BMW's 29.2 s/w? I'm sure some ppl want to know.

btw -- I happen to know at least one of your main guinea pigs for your AA Processor, and his cars always had a lot of problems; not sure if his problems were all attributed to your product, but don't act like your product has always been trouble-free either.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by Andras

In the US, maybe, where dynos are famous to "gift" horsepowers in a classical Santa Claus-style, come to Europe (to Italy) to the same dyno my pal used, and let's see those 390whp by JB3

Dear Member,

This is correct, dyno readings in Europe are different than here in the States. The AA Processor will not trigger any errors, etc. with 29.2.

At the end of the day we may or may not be the most powerful piggyback on the market, but that was never our goal. Remember performance and reliability has been our goal from day 1.. By choosing AA you have the piece of mind in knowing that we will be here to back our product and offer service whenever need be. AA or one of our vendors usually reply to the forums but the quickest way to contact us is via phone. If you post a question that is not replied to on the forum please email or call us, it has become difficult to navigate through posts when there is trolling take place.

Best Regards,

[Andras]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Dear Member,

This is correct, dyno readings in Europe are different than here in the States. The AA Processor will not trigger any errors, etc. with 29.2.

At the end of the day we may or may not be the most powerful piggyback on the market, but that was never our goal. Remember performance and reliability has been our goal from day 1.. By choosing AA you have the piece of mind in knowing that we will be here to back our product and offer service whenever need be. AA or one of our vendors usually reply to the forums but the quickest way to contact us is via phone. If you post a question that is not replied to on the forum please email or call us, it has become difficult to navigate through posts when there is trolling take place.

Best Regards,

Maybe you didn't get me: I mentioned those results of that pal of mine on the italian dyno 'cause they are pretty damn good (considering the dyno differences amond Europe and US) and the dude never had a limp.
Kind of envy him, quite often I wished I purchased an AA instead of a V3

BTW V3 start working properly just after loading the latest Stage 2 map non doomsday default map 2.
Really terrific

[camaross305]

Originally Posted by sflgator

What lies, Omar? If anything, I was a bit inaccurate, and for that, I apologize. What are my "tactics?" I have no "tactics" involved in stating my opinion about your product. You act as if I have some sort of vested interest or agenda in any of these companies or products. I can assure you and the rest of E90Post.com, I do not. But, at least my so-called "lies" actually got you to release more info and any new AA Processor map updates for those guys with your AA Processor installed on their cars.

Now that you're finally here again, some more questions...is the AA Processor now PnP like the PROcede v3 and JB3? Does it now control the same things these other piggybacks control; e.g. -- controls overboost protection/valet trigger, controls boost level as a function of rpm, throttle, IAT, but also rate of boost rise to deter knock events, controls fuel pressure to ensure that there is no enrichment delay? Also, has the AA Processor been tested to ensure invisibility to BMW's 29.2 s/w? I'm sure some ppl want to know.

btw -- I happen to know at least one of your main guinea pigs for your AA Processor, and his cars always had a lot of problems; not sure if his problems were all attributed to your product, but don't act like your product has always been trouble-free either.

I completely agree. AA is a great company but your tunning product for the n54 is sub-par. Yes it makes power but i dont think it even does it as safely as a jb3 or v3. Both of these use more sensors and parameters than an AA. The AA is behind in both the sensor's it uses and PNP capability. Terry has a great product and focuses specifically on the N54 engine. He def. has done countless testing and puts engine safety before performance. He just can get more hp while being just as safe if not safer. Same with the v3. Both are great products and have similar strategies.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Most Processors on the market manipulate the factory DME the same way or very similar in order to gain HP. The JB3 is a great product but it does not have 3d mapping capabilities similar to the factory DME to provide a better and safer curve. I am not sure where your information came from but it is incorrect, the JB2 is a fine product but it is in no way, shape , or form "safer than the Active Processor.

[camaross305]

the jb3 uses the stock dme.... how much safer can you be?
Look at how many factors the jb3 takes into consideration like temps, throttle position etc.

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by camaross305

I completely agree. AA is a great company but your tunning product for the n54 is sub-par. Yes it makes power but i dont think it even does it as safely as a jb3 or v3. Both of these use more sensors and parameters than an AA. The AA is behind in both the sensor's it uses and PNP capability. Terry has a great product and focuses specifically on the N54 engine. He def. has done countless testing and puts engine safety before performance. He just can get more hp while being just as safe if not safer. Same with the v3. Both are great products and have similar strategies.

Notice how Omar from AA doesn't answer any of my questions?

"Sorry for the delay in releasing new maps but we do have a couple maps available on our site for immediate download."

http://www.activeautowerke.com/download-software.aspx

Omar's words are a bit deceptive too...notice how he just mentions they have "a couple of maps available for immediately download." So, exactly what's updated in these maps? From what I see on the Web page he directs ppl to, it seems as if the same R3, R4, and RF (race fuel) maps are there (with what updates???), and they also have a bunch of maps designed for cars with many more mods -- Street Tune with exhaust downpipes, exhaust upgrade, LARGER intercooler & intake, Street Tune with exhaust downpipes, exhaust upgrade & LARGER intercooler, etc.

So, where are the updated maps if you have nothing but the AA Processor or if you have an AA Processor and an intake (stock exhaust and/or stock IC)? Oh, I forgot, s/w map updates on the AA Processor aren't necessary, since the AA Processor was always perfect from the day it was first released.

[ezatnova]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Most Processors on the market manipulate the factory DME the same way or very similar in order to gain HP. The JB3 is a great product but it does not have 3d mapping capabilities similar to the factory DME to provide a better and safer curve. I am not sure where your information came from but it is incorrect, the JB3 is a fine product but it is in no way, shape , or form "safer than the Active Processor.

You're right. JB3 doesn't use 3D mapping.... they use 4D.

"Stage 3 improvements include crank position for full 4D engine mapping"

[camaross305]

Originally Posted by ezatnova

You're right. JB3 doesn't use 3D mapping.... they use 4D.

"Stage 3 improvements include crank position for full 4D engine mapping"

point proven