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      03-04-2013, 05:51 PM   #1
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loose steering?

Hi, I just got a CPO e92 last week from a bmw dealer and it has about 34000 miles on it. I don't know if I am being too paranoid or not but I feel that the steering wheel is not that tight when I try to make a turn.

My question is does the steering become loose over time? If I take it to the dealer will they be able to make it tighter?

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edit: I have oem suspension with 19" oem m-sport wheels with RFT.

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      03-04-2013, 07:35 PM   #2
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Nope, loose steering is not a characteristic of a 3 series....
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My dad's first complaint (well not complaint but thing he noticed) was the tight steering when he test drove my 328xi, personally I love it but that does not seem right, I would take it back to the dealer.
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Agreed, going from a CTS to a 335i I was like wow this thing is hard to steer, so loose is definitely not right. I like it at driving speed....in parking lots it is annoying though.
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Thanks guys, ya... I used to own a 2008 brand new e92 before this CPO, I think I do feel a difference. I'll take the car in next week.
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I would like to know the outcome after the dealer inspects the issue. I know my steering is looser. When driving straight and level, I can tilt the wheel left and right slightly without any change in direction. Same when I am parked. It's similar to a wobble feeling.
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I would like to know the outcome after the dealer inspects the issue. I know my steering is looser. When driving straight and level, I can tilt the wheel left and right slightly without any change in direction. Same when I am parked. It's similar to a wobble feeling.
Sure I'll keep you updated in this thread by end of next week.
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Nope, loose steering is not a characteristic of a 3 series....
thank god! lol i always thought the tight steering wheel was something wrong with my car but now i know its right and yes i agree with many of you, it has such great handling with the tighter steering wheel. i can turn my parents' s320 with my chin
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maybe it has that new BMW active drive steering thingy where its meant to change the steering ratio to make it looser to allow you to turn easier at lower speeds and then its supposed to tighten it up at high speeds to keep your car straight.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t..._steering.html
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My question is does the steering become loose over time? If I take it to the dealer will they be able to make it tighter?
The first and foremost: do you have Active Steering or not?

There's no point in discussing absolutely anything about steering feel until you figure that out. Cars with AS and cars without AS have completely different steering feel. If your car has AS and steering feels too light, it is probably perfectly normal. Cars with AS are supposed to feel that way, and that is why many people hate AS.
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maybe it has that new BMW active drive steering thingy where its meant to change the steering ratio to make it looser to allow you to turn easier at lower speeds and then its supposed to tighten it up at high speeds to keep your car straight.

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t..._steering.html
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The first and foremost: do you have Active Steering or not?

There's no point in discussing absolutely anything about steering feel until you figure that out. Cars with AS and cars without AS have completely different steering feel. If your car has AS and steering feels too light, it is probably perfectly normal. Cars with AS are supposed to feel that way, and that is why many people hate AS.
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update: So dealer called back and told me that they checked the tires and the suspensions, found no problems. Dealer said he will test drive the car with me tomorrow...
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I have heard of other cars with their version of active steering feel the same....very easy for parking lots, ect...but firms up at speed...

If the car does not wander, you dont hear any clunks or weird noises when steering, the tie rods and other suspension pcs are tight...then you are probably okay and do in fact have active steering.

Your VIN number may tell you?....there is a BMW VIN decoder online that is awesome...not sure if it clues you into your options on this level though.

If the dealer did not find any loose steering parts...then get it out of there before they find something else!




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is the power steering fluid clean?
Yup I am gonna have that checked too!
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if it turns easily, its not your power steering fluid or fluid level....you would experience the opposite.

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Have your strut mounts checked too.
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I think it turned out to be air pressure >_<
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I would like to know the outcome after the dealer inspects the issue. I know my steering is looser. When driving straight and level, I can tilt the wheel left and right slightly without any change in direction. Same when I am parked. It's similar to a wobble feeling.
I have the EXACT same problem. "wobblely feeling" is the perfect way to explain it, its especially annoying when driving at higher speeds because there is about half an inch of non-responsiveness when turning the steering wheel
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Guys how about he starts with an alignment?!?!? Go to a reputable shop and ask what options the computer gives for your car. My steering felt loose after a poor alignment, so I went to a different shop. They told me my car has an option for an M-sport alignment so I got that. And what do you know the steering was automatically stiffer And the car felt a lot better.
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I think it turned out to be air pressure >_<
If the dealer fixed the airpressure in your tires make sure he didn't put a ridiculous amount of PSI in your tires. I heard stories where someone once went to get an alignment because the car was tracking to the left so they put 50 psi in the left front tire to "fix" the problem.
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