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      04-20-2016, 11:43 AM   #1
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How Is the Top of Dashboard Connected?

I need a picture or something.

If I push on the front of my dashboard (above the aluminum trim), I get a creaking/popping noise coming from the back of the dash where the windshield meets, just on the passenger side.

Every time I turn and there is lateral stress, I get a little pop/creaking. This is not a squeak or rattle and can be replicated consistently by physically pushing on the dash.

Anything I can tighten or wedge in there to make it tighter?

It's what is being described here:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...5&postcount=10

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Holy shit I have the exact same problem now!!!

My god, it is so annoying, and the dealer wants to rake me over the coals for labor charges just to get it all figured out and they have no idea how long it will take.... what a nightmare.

Granted, I have a hardtop, and there is flex in this car, but the top has been down the last three times I heard a loud "pop" coming down my driveway, then while I'm driving over rough pavement there is some loose rattle somewhere in the dash.

Maddening!
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      04-20-2016, 02:13 PM   #3
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Yeah, it's like the top of the dash is not completely secure over there. Just don't know why it's a "popping" sound versus a rattle/squeak.
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Yeah, it's like the top of the dash is not completely secure over there. Just don't know why it's a "popping" sound versus a rattle/squeak.
I know! Funny story just now- I pushed the dash in towards the windshield out of frustration and felt it kind of click into place.

So far no more noise! I'm sure I'll hear some later and be like fuuuuuck....but for now we're okay. I'm sure it can't be that easy.

Are you an E92 or E93?
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How weird, I'm getting the same kind of interior pop/crack but only on my first drive of the day, no matter the weather, as I'm leaving my neighborhood.

The only difference is that mine comes from the rear...
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Usually happens coming down from my driveway....POP!

Then noises like raindrops hitting a window pane...and no, it's not like a love song...
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same noise here! will try what you did and if it gets better...
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same noise here! will try what you did and if it gets better...
What did we try? There is no fix!
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How weird, I'm getting the same kind of interior pop/crack but only on my first drive of the day, no matter the weather, as I'm leaving my neighborhood.

The only difference is that mine comes from the rear...
Yeah I get it once at the end of the day when I'm pulling out of the driveway at work, but not in the morning. Only real difference is that it's been sitting out in the sun for 8 hours
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Let me know if any of you come to a conclusion on this nasty pop sound.

Even if I can't solve my rattle in the dash, I would love to address this, as the dealer is just giving me the finger and telling me to go fuck myself and that it's a paid labor per hour kind of repair.

Go figure- once they solve my oil line noises altogether now this shit crops up- and it's constant....fucking constant!

Good times.
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What did we try? There is no fix!
One said "I pushed the dash in towards the windshield out of frustration and felt it kind of click into place. So far no more noise!"
I tried to say I will try that.
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What did we try? There is no fix!
One said "I pushed the dash in towards the windshield out of frustration and felt it kind of click into place. So far no more noise!"
I tried to say I will try that.
I wouldn't count on that- the sounds are still there....and maddening.
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I wouldn't count on that- the sounds are still there....and maddening.
dammit! well, thanks a lot for the heads up...I'll keep trying on my car and let you know if I find the solution.
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Here is my nightmare, and, of course, it comes and goes... and is most likely a non-warranty repair.


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Here is my nightmare, and, of course, it comes and goes... and is most likely a non-warranty repair.


Fuck, that is horrible. Mine isn't nearly that bad and only happens on sharp turns when it's cold.
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I'm trying to live with it as much as I can until it constantly does it.

I'm pretty close to eating the cost to get it fixed, as the dealership I had it at knows exactly what the sound sounds like, but of course they're worried that the labor can get pretty steep to remove the dash (as am I).

Most likely, it's probably just something in the steering column area that needs to be tightened- it almost sounds like a loose vent clacking around.
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try this ! open hood,there is a black round cover(about as big as a silver dollar) located above the cabin filter and under passenger side windshield wiper arm,pry up the cover,you will see a nut that holds down the two support arms coming in from each side of engine bay,tighten down nut till snug and see if noise goes away..........hope it helps you as that rattle would dive me crazy !
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try this ! open hood,there is a black round cover(about as big as a silver dollar) located above the cabin filter and under passenger side windshield wiper arm,pry up the cover,you will see a nut that holds down the two support arms coming in from each side of engine bay,tighten down nut till snug and see if noise goes away..........hope it helps you as that rattle would dive me crazy !
Oh, you have no idea

Thank you - let me check it out.

I can tell you this much though, there is an accompanying "pop" or "pop pop" noise when the rattle is going to happen, and another one when it will cease to happen, so it has to be something popping out of place I assume at this point. For your review:



I'm just rather disappointed that after I purchased a platinum extended factory warranty and a accompanying maintenance plan they can't just help me out on this under warranty, as it really seems like it's a mechanical issue somewhere within the dashboard or its immediate area.

I had even tried to send this concern past BMW NA, and of course they are not helpful as usual.

"Well, it's up to the individual dealership's determination blah, and that they're not mechanically inclined to answer the question" seemed to be the order of the day.

To be honest, I didn't have this issue until some suspension work was done on my previous service (shock and tie rod) but of course if I try to go after the dealer for it I'm sure they'll just say "yeah right"...

Besides, I had some work done at Prestige in Ramsey after that, and they said everything looked mechanically perfect. I'll definitely check it out though brother.

I guess the thing that sucks the most is just after I've gotten everything nearly 100% in every other part of the car- including the incessant vibration of those aftermarket oil lines that the DINAN tech painstakingly took an hour reinstalling and battening them down around the engine bay- this happens.

I have even considered throwing myself on the mercy of the Morristown BMW, as they've been so extremely helpful in all of my rattles and bangs and pops in the past, and the service manager mentioned that they wouldn't mind at all trying to help, but I'd have to take a day off to take a drive to show them the issue, as noises are subjective for everyone.

They also wanted me to do this with them so they don't waste any money diagnosing the issue until they are sure they can fix it.

Clearly from this video it's painfully obvious what's happening, I'm sure we all can agree.

Also, if anyone knows a dealership in the New Jersey area that you can recommend that might remotely consider helping me with this as warranty work, I would certainly be open to that suggestion if daddy's suggestion doesn't fix it.

The car hates me for considering getting rid of it, and it lets me know about it every day
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my 330i made same pop sound when I backed out from driveway car would be flexing some as it I backed out over curb on to street , tightened the nut I mentioned before and no more popping sound !
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I'm trying to live with it as much as I can until it constantly does it.

I'm pretty close to eating the cost to get it fixed, as the dealership I had it at knows exactly what the sound sounds like, but of course they're worried that the labor can get pretty steep to remove the dash (as am I).

Most likely, it's probably just something in the steering column area that needs to be tightened- it almost sounds like a loose vent clacking around.
dude i couldn't listen to your entire clip without becoming enraged by that noise... how can u deal????
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my 330i made same pop sound when I backed out from driveway car would be flexing some as it I backed out over curb on to street , tightened the nut I mentioned before and no more popping sound !
My money is riding on you Cooldaddy! Will report back shortly. Mike, believe me, I fight the urge to kick my dash through the front end every moment it happens.
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Ok so no luck.

The thing that frustrates me is the hour of "labor" they supposedly spent tightening down the cowl area for potential sounds looks like it resulted in the disconnect of my hood sensor and God knows whatever else I didn't see...

Unfortunately daddy, your diagnosis didn't hit the mark- that nut is tight as a virgin's ass, and I could not tighten it any further
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