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      10-26-2008, 11:33 AM   #1
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Remapped 330d, versus standard 335d ?

Anybody tried both of these ?

ie: how does the remapped 330d (just a straight re-map, no additional air intakes/exhaust mods etc) compare to the performance of the 335d ?

Is the 335d still much quicker, or is there not a lot in them when the 330d is mapped ?
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I wouldnt say it was much quicker. I would think the gap would be pretty close to a stock 335d. Although the driveability of the 335d cannot be knocked. It will always have that upper hand over the 330d mapped.

Good idea would be to get a mapped 330d to santa pod or one of the other drag strips in the country to see what they can do.
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      10-26-2008, 11:38 AM   #3
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Cheers Carlos.............any other takers ?
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Have you had yours mapped yet mate!

Get down tpo the strip stock first (if you still are) Im very interested in the results.
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      10-26-2008, 11:53 AM   #5
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No, I`m still mulling over getting it done mate.

That`s why I`m wondering about the performance difference, as the 335d is pretty much out there on it`s own, as a road car, and if a re-map can give the 330d comparable performance, then...........?
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You really should get it done, and add at least a more free flowing filter.

If you got a remap and a filter and then added a free flowing exhaust you would have a car that would be very impressive and more responsive all round.
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The 335d will be about 30kg heavier, they will have about the same bhp but will have less torque than a good 330d map but the extra turbo will give the engine better flexability and a faster pickup.

335d 286bhp 580Nm, 330d+ 290bhp 600Nm-660Nm

Probably about the same
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Cheers Crimson; some good facts there for me to think about.......and certainly, from the figures given, the performance would seem to be comparable, although delivered in a slightly smoother fashion by the 335d.

Appreciated.
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My 330d has 292bhp and 510lbs and I would guess its very similar in outright performance to a stock 335d.

However the reason I bought the 330d was I prefer the single-turbo power delivery of the 330d - old skool wallop - I have driven several x35d's and whilst undoubtedly quick, none of them wowed me. The x35d revs more like a petrol and the power delivery is more linear, the 330d is more traditional diesel style.

The remap just makes it even better - silly midrange.

Just my 2p

Must try a remapped 335d though lol
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My 330d has 292bhp and 510lbs and I would guess its very similar in outright performance to a stock 335d.

However the reason I bought the 330d was I prefer the single-turbo power delivery of the 330d - old skool wallop - I have driven several x35d's and whilst undoubtedly quick, none of them wowed me. The x35d revs more like a petrol and the power delivery is more linear, the 330d is more traditional diesel style.

The remap just makes it even better - silly midrange.

Just my 2p

Must try a remapped 335d though lol

I know what your saying, i do love a little lag myself.

The 335d does rev like a petrol. Revs rather quickly.

I have not driven a 330d but have been out in Wills mapped one. It was rather fast.
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The biggest positive (for me) of a remapped 330d over a 335d is that you can have a glorious manual gearbox.

As gIzzE says, and I've heard from others, a remap coupled with a better filter (which costs peanuts so is a no-brainer really) really makes a difference.

I'm still seriously considering making these two changes but trying to work out my car situation first.
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Interesting one!

I imagine BMW will make the 335d slightly quicker than a mapped 330d, due to the fact they will have an idea that people will be thinking "if I remap my 330d ... I can have a manual 'box and around the same power as a 335d" - so I imagine BMW have made the 335d with more stock power due to this.

Can anyone actually explain this remapping to me, especially now I've gone and bought myself a modern car, that may benefit from it!
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does your modern bmw have a turbo?
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Oh no lol it is only an E39 520i I have bought for my daily runner Is remapping generally for turbo cars?
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Yes, although most cars with a decent ecu can be mapped.

Gains on a non turbod car are not that much so not really worth the expenditure.

A re-map on a turbo car, to run more boost/fuel/ignition can bring some good gains.
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Yes, although most cars with a decent ecu can be mapped.

Gains on a non turbod car are not that much so not really worth the expenditure.

A re-map on a turbo car, to run more boost/fuel/ignition can bring some good gains.
Thankyou

According to website my car would gain 15bhp from being remapped. Costs from 250, not worth it for the daily driver in my opinion. Want to buy some nice wheels for it and 250 goes a good way to finding some nice wheels (only want genuine BMW wheels) which is a pain because the E39 has a strange fitment!

Though surely a 540i should gain more than 22bhp from being remapped?
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I think you would be lucky to see that really. (15bhp)


There is not much to play with on the ECU on a non turbo car.

Now you would get 22bhp + on a 540 with A full exhaust, de-cat pipe, filter and a re-map.


expensive game tuning a N/A car.
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I think you would be lucky to see that really. (15bhp)


There is not much to play with on the ECU on a non turbo car.

Now you would get 22bhp + on a 540 with A full exhaust, de-cat pipe, filter and a re-map.


expensive game tuning a N/A car.
I see, I will not bother. Sounds a lot of money for not much gain.

A stock 540i is a lovely piece of kit anyway but no more borrowing that for me

Oh you just reminded me this E39 will have a Cat exhaust won't it? At least it's got full MOT so won't have to worry about that unless I keep it!!
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My 330d has 292bhp and 510lbs and I would guess its very similar in outright performance to a stock 335d.

However the reason I bought the 330d was I prefer the single-turbo power delivery of the 330d - old skool wallop - I have driven several x35d's and whilst undoubtedly quick, none of them wowed me. The x35d revs more like a petrol and the power delivery is more linear, the 330d is more traditional diesel style.

The remap just makes it even better - silly midrange.

Just my 2p

Must try a remapped 335d though lol
Now that IS an interesting one mate, and thanks for pitching-in.

Probably much like yourself, I also prefer the old diesel-wallop, as you say; in fact, my 330d sometimes reminds me of my old Scooby STI PPP, in the way that there`s just that fraction of a wait, then..................BABOOOMMM !

Gotta love it...............I know I do, and I would imagine a re-map can only make it more-so !

Good power gains as well there mate, where did you get it done ?
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I think ANT397 car is a 330d .it is supposed to be fantastc and he is a nice guy who also owns www.speedreligion.net who is (almost- edited by Viv) a e90 post sponser have a search on here you should find plenty of usefull info
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Now that IS an interesting one mate, and thanks for pitching-in.

Probably much like yourself, I also prefer the old diesel-wallop, as you say; in fact, my 330d sometimes reminds me of my old Scooby STI PPP, in the way that there`s just that fraction of a wait, then..................BABOOOMMM !

Gotta love it...............I know I do, and I would imagine a re-map can only make it more-so !

Good power gains as well there mate, where did you get it done ?
Evolve in Luton - great guys and a great remap
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