423whp, 397lbft PROcede Rev.II v3.1 Stg 3

OpenFlash · 10-30-2008, 01:39 PM

Hi guys,
I've been doing some more development on v3.1. Specifically with octane and air/temp compensations (recently added a FMIC on our car). Everyone wants a race gas map that they can potentially runs 11s in. So we will oblidge. Took it to the dyno today to test. This is the same Dynojet (Modacar, Livermore CA) we always use. It's not optimistic as stock 335is make 270-275whp.

On 104oct, and on an Sept 08 built MSD81 ECU the car put down 423whp and 397lb of torque. Graphs and video to come soon. Peak hp is at 5700rpm. And by 6700rpm, power is still at 400whp. So top end powerband is insane.

Mods are:
Vishnu Cat-back
Riss catless dp
Vishnu intakes
Upgraded FMIC (still have some more testing to do on this)
PROcede Rev.II v3.1 firmware running a beta Stg 3 map
104oct

Conditions: 75F, 22% Humidity
Correction Used: STD

Here's a bunch of consecutive runs from today, during the tuning process. Also plotted is a run of my car when it was stock. Same dyno. Similar conditions:

Cheers,
shiv

Dr_Dirt · 10-30-2008, 01:40 PM

Put that thing on the track!
11's would be nice.

jpsimon · 10-30-2008, 01:42 PM

niceeeeeee i can't wait to get my FMIC

ArmyBimmerDude · 10-30-2008, 01:42 PM

Just kidding. Those are insane numbers! Congrats.

stillclaimndp · 10-30-2008, 01:43 PM

Sick

Bring it to Aura this weekend so I can take a lap? = D

ironic · 10-30-2008, 01:43 PM

wow lol, that's just ridiculous numbers haha

kyleb350 · 10-30-2008, 01:44 PM

I think this is the first I've seen where HP is greater than TQ. Anyone know what that's attributed to?

Riss Racing · 10-30-2008, 01:44 PM

Wow great numbers Shiv!

stillclaimndp · 10-30-2008, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb350

I think this is the first I've seen where HP is greater than TQ. Anyone know what that's attributed to?

Good tuning =) Remember he had cut back torque vs. hp a year+ ago with V2 and further on v3 for the 29.2/msd81

OpenFlash · 10-30-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb350

I think this is the first I've seen where HP is greater than TQ. Anyone know what that's attributed to?

Primarily for MSD81 compliance. But I honestly prefer having less torque down low (below 5000rpm) and as much as possible up top. Good for traction as well as being easier on the drivetrain. Peak torque of ~400lbft is at 5500rpm. But's greater than 350lbft by 3000rpm. So it's not weak down low by any means.

shiv

jpsimon · 10-30-2008, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb350

I think this is the first I've seen where HP is greater than TQ. Anyone know what that's attributed to?

i think he is deliberately keeping the torque down

darkphantom · 10-30-2008, 01:46 PM

Is this race gas map specific for 104oct?

BMW_TT · 10-30-2008, 01:47 PM

Is it your company's FMIC?

Dr_Dirt · 10-30-2008, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stillclaimndp

Good tuning =) Remember he had cut back torque vs. hp a year+ ago with V2~

He's probably increasing boost in the higher rpms as the torque starts to drop off.

jpsimon · 10-30-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by down4it

Heard this before, i guess when all the customers on this map with 104oct make 420whp people might start to respect Vishnu Inc...

hmm... i'm pretty sure i'm a customer.

no one but me (and now shiv) has dynoed with this map on 104.... 405awhp without an upgraded FMIC is pretty good IMO... but hey, you can think whatever you want

It's clear no matter what you're going to hate, so there is no point in even getting into an argument

sambonator · 10-30-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

i think he is deliberately keeping the torque down

397lb-ft of torque is "keeping the torque down?"

Sneeze · 10-30-2008, 01:59 PM

Wow!!! high 11s for sure.

What brand is the FMIC?

Digital.James · 10-30-2008, 02:04 PM

awesome. I need to get this map running on my car!

techforge · 10-30-2008, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Primarily for MSD81 compliance. But I honestly prefer having less torque down low (below 5000rpm) and as much as possible up top. Good for traction as well as being easier on the drivetrain. Peak torque of ~400lbft is at 5500rpm. But's greater than 350lbft by 3000rpm. So it's not weak down low by any means.

shiv

So this would be a stealthy doomsday race map?

Tuned335i · 10-30-2008, 02:08 PM

Wow, those posts got deleted fast. Probably a wise thing to do, better than closing the thread. Thanks guys.

ontopofm · 10-30-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thr33fivei

Wow!!! high 11s for sure.

What brand is the FMIC?

+1

OpenFlash · 10-30-2008, 02:10 PM

It's been MSD compliant for me so far but it's close to the limit. I would officially say no just to be realistic and conservative. Besides, it's hard to be stealthy with fmic, dps, exhaust etc.

Shiv

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