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      01-26-2009, 11:18 AM   #155
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Where did you have the subframe bushings installed at? Through some of the posts about this particular upgrade, it sounds like a specialized tool is needed, which might not be available everywhere.
Check with your local BMW dealer, they usually have the tools. None of the independents would have them at this early stage of E9x life.
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No, you will need M3 front spindles(that means M3 brakes as well) and rear camber links as well.
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What Harold said^

You can check such things by looking at the parts diagrams [realoemparts.com]

There are better options anyway -- Bilstein, BmW Performance, etc.
Thanks for the responses. I was trying to justify coils for the M3, and install those springs/shocks on the 335.
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Here is a list of the M3 suspension parts (not including front strut brace) that are of current interest from the Crown website (Tischer & HPAutowerkes have them in convenient packages):

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Description Qty Your Price Core Price Total Cost
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 33322283545 wishbone
Rear suspension, Upper control arm, Rear arm, Rear arm, m series, left $116.55
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 33322283546 wishbone
Rear suspension, Upper control arm, Rear arm, Rear arm, m series, right $116.55
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 33322283547 guide rod
Rear suspension, Upper control arm, Front arm, Front arm, m series, left $182.75
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 33322283548 guide rod
Rear suspension, Upper control arm, Front arm, Front arm, m series, right $182.75
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 33312283382
Rear suspension, Bushings, Bushings, m series, outer, front $55.99 x2 111.98
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 33312283383
Rear suspension, Bushings, Bushings, m series, outer, rear $55.99 x2 111.98

Front suspension:

Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 Part Number: 31102283576 tension strut
Front suspension, Lower control arm, Front arm, Front arm, m series, right - 2wd - 2WD $116.60
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 Part Number: 31102283575 tension strut
Front suspension, Lower control arm, Front arm, Front arm, m series, left - 2wd - 2WD $116.60
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 Part Number: 31102283578 control arm
Front suspension, Lower control arm, Rear arm, Rear arm, m series, right - 2wd - 2WD $81.54
Mechanical Catalog - 2008 - BMW - M3 Part Number: 31102283577 control arm
Front suspension, Lower control arm, Rear arm, Rear arm, m series, left - 2wd - 2WD $81.54

Total: $1,218.84
Now, everybody is talking about 335, but do these parts fit to other E90 as well? 320D?
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Now, everybody is talking about 335, but do these parts fit to other E90 as well? 320D?
It should they worked on my 06 330i. Someone correct me if im wrong but all E90's and E92's have the same suspension parts.
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It should they worked on my 06 330i. Someone correct me if im wrong but all E90's and E92's have the same suspension parts.
yep, the tension rods and wishbones should be the same.
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It should they worked on my 06 330i. Someone correct me if im wrong but all E90's and E92's have the same suspension parts.
Yes, they are the same!
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any solutions for e90 335i?
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any solutions for e90 335i?

Uh, every part in this thread! Harold and Mr. 5 have E90 335i's, and Harold (E90) and Orb (E92) developed this list of upgrades. So it's all good!
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      01-28-2009, 01:14 AM   #163
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any solutions for e90 335i?
E90 and E92 share the same front and rear suspension components.

Most of the M spec pieces will fit on your E90!
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      01-28-2009, 02:38 AM   #164
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awesome that is definitely good news
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awesome that is definitely good news
+1 thanks for all the R&D guys.

So in the near future, i'll be getting the m3 front and rear suspension parts that strssdoc listed, the 14mm M rear sway bar (Part #33556764426), and the M3 Strut brace http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...61&hg=51&fg=75

Im not 100% sure, but i'll also see if i can purchase the performance springs (the ones where you have to give the last 7 digits of your VIN when you try to order).

If I get some money from Uncle Sam, then I'll be getting these parts sooner than later



EDIT: BTW, im trying to be as OEM as possible. But thats just me
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EDIT: BTW, im trying to be as OEM as possible. But thats just me
Me too. Hence the Perf package from Tischer -- 14mm, springs & dampers. And the M3 front and rear packages.
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Me too. Hence the Perf package from Tischer -- 14mm, springs & dampers. And the M3 front and rear packages.
Why not the 20mm M3 rear bar?
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Why not the 20mm M3 rear bar?
Because even with a Quaife I think that is too much -- inside wheel lift & spin =
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Because even with a Quaife I think that is too much -- inside wheel lift & spin =
If the M3 rear bar is 20mm, which 14mm bar do you have? (I feel I'm missing something).
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If the M3 rear bar is 20mm, which 14mm bar do you have? (I feel I'm missing something).
Its the BMW Performance bar.
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For autocross, street, & rallye, most experts will caution against a very stiff rear anti-sway bar. Road track race can be different. If you don't have an LSD, there is no way I would put a 20mm sway on. With a LSD, the potential for power oversteer is increased. For a DD, the 14mm bar is a great choice IMO. The Hotchkis set is also a reasonable choice.
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Its the BMW Performance bar.
= Euro M-sport bar.
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Bolt them in and away you go. You will need the upper link cable clips.

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Hey Orb, where can we get these clips for the rear wishbones and control arms?
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HP Autowerks & Tischer include them in their kits.
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did you change the shock rubber top mounts?

Orb wrote:
"The only other real bad part on the car is the shock rubber top mounts which deflect up to 20 mm under load. I did some testing in the lab and they are horror show (super soft so you loss negative camber close to the limit) and will absolutely induce under steer with anything other than the stock springs"
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did you change the shock rubber top mounts?

Orb wrote:
"The only other real bad part on the car is the shock rubber top mounts which deflect up to 20 mm under load. I did some testing in the lab and they are horror show (super soft so you loss negative camber close to the limit) and will absolutely induce under steer with anything other than the stock springs"
I think "Orb" was talking about the front mounts here, not the rears.
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