Tirerack
Use the following links to go directly to useful tirerack winter items: Tirerack Winter Tires. Gary's Winter Tire FAQ.
Using the links directly supports E90Post with tirerack sales commision!

  E90Post
 


TireRack

   PLEASE HELP SUPPORT E90POST BY DOING YOUR TIRERACK SHOPPING FROM THIS BANNER, THANKS!
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > Wheels and Tires Forum Sponsored by The Tire Rack > Bridgestone Blizzak



Wheels and Tires forum Sponsored by The Tire Rack
Please help to directly support e90post by doing your tirerack shopping from the above link. For every sale made through the link, e90post gets sponsor support to keep the site alive. Disclaimer

Wheel offset calculator courtesy of BimmerPost.com. You may use this calculator to calculate what tire sizes you might need if you upgrade your tires, or what wheel sizes/offsets are compatible with your car.
    Current Wheel Width  inches             Current Wheel Offset  mm.
         New Wheel Width  inches                  New Wheel Offset  mm.
 
TIRE WIDTH
/
ASPECT RATIO
- WHEEL DIAMETER
ORIGINAL TIRES
/
NEW TIRES
/
Based on your stock wheel setup, your new wheel will have:
Original Tires Diameter (in.)
      New Tires Diameter (in.)
  Difference in diameter (in.)
           Percent Difference %
                     
Speedo @60mph will read: mph
Collapse/Expand the BimmerPost Wheel and Tire calculator
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-21-2008, 06:47 PM   #1
martyp
Canada Eh!
 
Drives: 2012 F30
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, Canada

Posts: 222
iTrader: (1)

Bridgestone Blizzak

Hey Yall;

I just installed my 16 inch Blizzaks today (non-rft) and my god does the car ever have mushy steering now! It freaked me out at first, but got used to it after a while. I know now why we have RFTs. Quite the difference! I know it's due to the softer sidewall but I didn't know there would be THAT much difference.

Anybody else?
martyp is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      11-21-2008, 08:14 PM   #2
CirrusSR22
Captain
 
Drives: E36 318ti, R50 MINI
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Minnesota

Posts: 898
iTrader: (0)

The mushy steering is mostly due to the rubber compound that winter tires have. The difference between my summer and winter tires (both non-RFT) is night and day. When I mount the winter tires the steering effort is greatly reduced, the self-centering characteristics are greatly reduced plus tramlining is gone. It's like driving a totally different car.

And yes, you do get used to it. Every winter for the past five I've mounted Blizzak WS-50s and now WS-60s and every time I think, "my god these are squishy". After about a week or two I don't notice it.
CirrusSR22 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-21-2008, 11:57 PM   #3
E30M3Driver
Captain
 
E30M3Driver's Avatar
 
Drives: 13 335is, 89 M3, 97 M3
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Here, there

Posts: 779
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335i  [4.00]
1989 BMW M3  [4.10]
Blizzaks are squisher than many winter tires, which is why I don't run them. Where I am is mostly dry except for the handful of days of snow and of course 20-40 degree days. WS-50s are the worst in terms of dry squishyness. If you want a better handling snow tire in the dry, go with a higher speed rated tire from Pirelli, Michelin, etc. I am using Alpin Pilots now, pretty nice in the dry and ok in the snow.

If you get a lot of slow you'll appreciate the blizzaks.

As you mentioned, the runflats magnify the effect that much more.
__________________


Performance Center Delivery, June 21, 2013: 2013 E92 335is | Le Mans Blue | Gray Leather with Black | 6MT | 19" Style 313's | Michelin Pilot Super Sports | BMW Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler |
E30M3Driver is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      11-22-2008, 03:45 AM   #4
halB
Colonel
 
halB's Avatar
 
Drives: W211 E350 4M MkV GTI 987.2 S
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Just north of Toronto

Posts: 2,384
iTrader: (0)

That's the trade off between good ice/snow traction and sporty handling. Unfortunately you can have more of one and less of the other either way, not both.
__________________
07 E93 335i - Returned at lease end
09 W211 E350 4Matic Avant Garde - Blk/Blk, AMG pkg w/18". Sport Susp. F1 Asym. Debadged.
09 MkV GTI w/Leather & 18" Huffs. F1 Asym

10 987.2 S w/Leather sport seat, Sport Chrono, 19" Carrera S II wheels
halB is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      11-22-2008, 05:52 PM   #5
mmm def
Colonel
 
mmm def's Avatar
 
Drives: 06 330i, 11 S4
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NJ

Posts: 2,566
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to mmm def
Try the LM25's next time. You will get used to the blizzaks soon though, nice tire.
mmm def is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-22-2008, 07:11 PM   #6
kyleb350
Brigadier General
 
kyleb350's Avatar
 
Drives: F30 335i M-Sport
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: LoMbard, IL

Posts: 4,169
iTrader: (6)

I felt the exact same way when I put the Blizzak LM25s on. If you feel the knobs in the tread, you'll see they're very flexible.

If you're driving around 20 mph and steer back and forth fairly aggressively you'll feel the car roll a little extra due to the tread.
kyleb350 is online now   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      11-22-2008, 07:33 PM   #7
BMdblU
Brigadier General
 
Drives: with no destination
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 416

Posts: 3,823
iTrader: (2)

Try a 'performance winter tire' if you are concerned with dry handling. My LM25's are a perfect combination of dry and snow performance, love them. The Dunlop wintersport M3 is also a good choice.
BMdblU is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:41 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST