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      11-25-2008, 10:06 PM   #45
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Well in places like Japan, cell phones already do all that. So whats new? Its just a rfid card and small chip needed, they can store a lot of data in very small chips after all. I am not crazy about any of it.
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      11-26-2008, 01:27 AM   #46
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      11-26-2008, 02:29 AM   #47
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wow thats truly amazing how they can do that
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      11-26-2008, 05:07 AM   #48
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sound like an interesting little gadget..but it brings out the paranoid in me..in the future if i lose my keys or someone's stolen it,not only do i lose my car but the culprit can even go shopping using my money,go to foreign places with train ticket via my credit balance and buy porn with it coming out via my statement!! haha
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      11-26-2008, 09:04 AM   #49
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What I am missing is why would a BMW driver want to use his or her key to buy PUBLIC TRANSPORT tickets, or am I missing something here???
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      11-26-2008, 11:21 AM   #50
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Yes, 911....

Me: I just Got Mugged.....!

911: Are you Hurt sir ?

Me: Yeah...(WTF)...????

911: Did they take anything? Your wallet?

Me: Well, They left the wallet since I only had couple bucks in there but they stole my Key, cause well My CC info is embeded in it and you can just use swipe it and pay/charge anything on it with no verification needed since I doubt they have MY name engraved on it...God Bless the fine minds of BMW engineers....!

if it is similar to what they already have in Germany at some grocery stores and universities, you need to register at the store before you can use the device and you still need a second form of authorization that being either a PIN or fingerprint scan. The picture only tells half the story
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      11-26-2008, 11:25 AM   #51
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What I am missing is why would a BMW driver want to use his or her key to buy PUBLIC TRANSPORT tickets, or am I missing something here???
Exactly. If you are traveling without your car (air travel) you will most likely have your cell phone and not a key fob.

BMW is not the company to establish a standard in this area. They should take the R&D money and focus on overall quality and reliabiity.
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this is absolutely fucking useless, BMW start taking your mind off the cars and stick what you do BEST, engines and cars. please leave credit card to visa or mastercard and let them take care of it, come on seriously whats the point of having this ?? make american civilization more lazy then they already are ?? ( not speaking to all, but you gotta admit america is getting lazier and lazier)
Ugh! If everyone was like you we would not have any advancements in technology.

Also BMW has enough resources to do what ever the fuck they want. Developing this keyfob isn't that expensive. They are not taking away money from development of your precious BMW cars.

They are partnering with credit card companies so BMw is not doing everything.
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      11-26-2008, 02:15 PM   #53
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OMG, why people are so freaked out about giving such a key to a dealer? Reality check - deal ALREADY HAS your credit card number, as you probably paid them at some point, and they have much more sensitive info if you arranged financing through the dealer.

Tell me you never gave a credit card to a waiter, who may as well be a teenage punk, or gave your CC number over the phone when booking a hotel or something like that. This thing is even safer that a plastic credit card as the number is not readable without special equipment.

Also this can be made perfectly safe with just a pin number - then your vallet, your wife or your dealer would not be able to commit a fellony and use it without your premission...

As for creative ways of destroying the fob when you sell the car - based on the knowledge I have about how similar things work in phones, the fob has no info about you or your credit cards. It just has a unique number, which is then connected to your payment profile in the central database. When the fob changes the owner, the tie between the number and profile is severed and the number in the fob has no meaning or connection to the previous owner whatsoever and even being able to fully decrypt and break the fob will not give the new owner access to your data. It's the same if someone gets a new credit card with a number that you once had - this does not automatically give that person access to your new credit card or any info about you.
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Before they integrate my credit cards, car key, bus pass, cell phone, library card, laser jammer and pacemaker could they figure out a cool simple way for me to have a key that works for both my car and house?

I'd be happy with just that.
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Before they integrate my credit cards, car key, bus pass, cell phone, library card, laser jammer and pacemaker could they figure out a cool simple way for me to have a key that works for both my car and house?

I'd be happy with just that.
So when you loose your keys you loose both your car & your house at the same time!
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Nice. Wish I could also use CA as my front door key...


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You can actually buy electronic front door locks, with keypads and keyless entry (via a keychain fob)... I saw some for sale recently.
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      11-27-2008, 12:03 PM   #57
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The world's top firms such as Visa Inc and Nokia are still mostly testing phone use for payments, but in Japan, more than 50 million, or about half of all cellphone users, already carry phones capable of serving as wallets.

Japan has pioneered not just the technology but also the business models that will pave the way for wallet phones to become a standard payment method in the future. Some 700 million people worldwide are expected to own such phones by 2013.
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      11-29-2008, 12:55 PM   #58
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      12-02-2008, 03:00 AM   #59
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My smart key told me to get out of the sub-prime market, but did I listen?!
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we have credit cards that do the same thing; pay to wave.
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      12-02-2008, 07:23 AM   #61
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i just wonder how much BMW will charge for this, and how much they are going to get from the payments you make using it. It won't be free.
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