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      01-17-2009, 11:57 AM   #1
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I PM'd PAKMAN yesterday about some wheels he was selling and we agreed on a price, he gave me his email address to send funds to, I sent money and asked for an ETA on shipping, and get an email this morning saying he already sold them

What... The... Fuck.

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these wheels have already been sold. I issued a refund on paypal already. sorry about that. I have Zoeb@wheeldude.com a good note of you to somewhat give you a hook if you buy from him. again sorry about that

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On Jan 17, 2009, at 12:24 AM, <stimpy> wrote:

PAKMAN,

The money has been sent - when is the soonest you can get these out?

Thanks!

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-----Original Message-----
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yea 1751 is fine

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On Jan 16, 2009, at 2:59 PM, <PAKMAN> wrote:

I assume 1751 is acceptable then? If so I'll send the money now.

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:59 PM
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my paypal is my email

-PAKMAN


On Jan 16, 2009, at 1:44 PM, <stimpy> wrote:

Hey man,



If I send Paypal funds do you know how much I should send? 3% is 51 bucks but not sure what they charge. If 1751 is acceptable shoot me your paypal address.



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      01-17-2009, 12:26 PM   #2
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this is so funny. you sent me the money at 1240AM..our last convo was 1:44PM. and waiting another 10hrs to send the money. a lot of things can happen in 10hrs. calling Dibs means nothing. its whoever sends the money first.
get over it. I refunded you your money.
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Money Talks Bud. You Could've Backed Out And He Could've Been Stuck With The Wheels And No Buyer.
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Moderators please close this thread. It's so pointless. I refunded him his money. He's just complaining cause he took a long time and someone else pulled through before him.
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      01-17-2009, 12:34 PM   #5
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Time stamps are right there - it wasn't 10 hours. I stayed in constant touch with you letting you know I am buying them - it's a done deal, was just figuring out the best method to send you the funds.

It's all right there in black and white - people will think twice when doing business with you again.
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      01-17-2009, 12:36 PM   #6
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Money Talks Bud. You Could've Backed Out And He Could've Been Stuck With The Wheels And No Buyer.
that's what i thought. and he offered me a fry's gift card. so i started thinking if he was a scammer or not. and i had no contact from him for 10 hrs or so. so i took the next person in line and he sent me the money at 6PM. was a very smooth transaction.
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      01-17-2009, 12:37 PM   #7
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Time stamps are right there - it wasn't 10 hours. I stayed in constant touch with you letting you know I am buying them - it's a done deal, was just figuring out the best method to send you the funds.

It's all right there in black and white - people will think twice when doing business with you again.

thats why they keep doing buisness with me. thanks for the feedback!
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      01-17-2009, 12:38 PM   #8
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Money Talks Bud. You Could've Backed Out And He Could've Been Stuck With The Wheels And No Buyer.
Throw me a pity party - another buyer certainly could of waited a couple hours to decide if the previous buyer backed out. If another buyer wanted them, they certainly would of waited to see if the previous buyer backs out.

In our PM's and emails - there was NO mention of another buyer or rush. If he sent me an email stating "I have another buyer on the line" I would of sent the money that instant and took the Paypal hit.
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that's what i thought. and he offered me a fry's gift card. so i started thinking if he was a scammer or not. and i had no contact from him for 10 hrs or so. so i took the next person in line and he sent me the money at 6PM. was a very smooth transaction.
Who was the next person in line, who bought them? And I'm obviously not a scammer - look at my previous posts.
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Who was the next person in line, who bought them? And I'm obviously not a scammer - look at my previous posts.
what matters to you who bought them? give it a break. the next person in line is none of your concern.
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Throw me a pity party - another buyer certainly could of waited a couple hours to decide if the previous buyer backed out. If another buyer wanted them, they certainly would of waited to see if the previous buyer backs out.

In our PM's and emails - there was NO mention of another buyer or rush. If he sent me an email stating "I have another buyer on the line" I would of sent the money that instant and took the Paypal hit.
i dont care if it wouldve been a paypal hit or not. he sent the money before you. you calling dibs and making me wait means nothing. i refunded you youre money back. some shady people dont even refund.
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what matters to you who bought them? give it a break. the next person in line is none of your concern.
Common sense (albeit speculation) tells me and everyone else that these were sold (if they were) to a non forum member, probably a buddy who you hung out with last night. This would of happened regardless if I sent the money earlier or not.
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i dont care if it wouldve been a paypal hit or not. he sent the money before you. you calling dibs and making me wait means nothing. i refunded you youre money back. some shady people dont even refund.
Ya? So that means it was a member of this forum.

Who was it? Odd considering there was no talk of another buyer in our discussions or on your for sale thread.

I know when I am being lied to - it's cool though. Enjoy
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Common sense (albeit speculation) tells me and everyone else that these were sold (if they were) to a non forum member, probably a buddy who you hung out with last night. This would of happened regardless if I sent the money earlier or not.
well your albeit speculations are incorrect. my buddy i hung out with was wheeldude. im pretty sure he wouldnt want a set of z2s's when he has plenty in stock. and yes it would've made a BIG difference if you sent the money earlier. you would have the wheels! good lookin and godspeed.
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Ya? So that means it was a member of this forum.

Who was it? Odd considering there was no talk of another buyer in our discussions or on your for sale thread.

I know when I am being lied to - it's cool though. Enjoy
dude are you trippin??? why would i lie about selling my rims to another member? i dont have to talk to you about who wants my rims. these are my rims. you dont see me talking to you about your wife or girlfriend right? he pmed me and emailed me said he'd send the money right away which he did.
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I feel disrespected man - It was never a question in our messages back and forth that I needed to be in a hurry. The wheels were mine, I was just figuring out the best method of sending you the money. EVERY message you sent me I responded within a few minutes.

All it took was a simple message saying "Hey man, I got another buyer - send me the money now or they go to him" and I would of took the Paypal hit and sent it instantly.

That is why I am angry.
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I feel disrespected man - It was never a question in our messages back and forth that I needed to be in a hurry. The wheels were mine, I was just figuring out the best method of sending you the money. EVERY message you sent me I responded within a few minutes.

All it took was a simple message saying "Hey man, I got another buyer - send me the money now or they go to him" and I would of took the Paypal hit and sent it instantly.

That is why I am angry.
i told zoeb@wheeldude.com that you wanted a set of wheels PM him and he'll get back to you.
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Sent him a PM - Thanks Alex.
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I actually bought the wheels off of PakMan. Didn't realize it was going to cause such a rucus. It was a smooth transaction and he communicated well. If you want them that bad you can buy them for 2000 and PAKMAN and I can split the extra cash ahaha jk. Sorry for the drama but thanks for the nice wheels PAKMAN.
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I actually bought the wheels off of PakMan. Didn't realize it was going to cause such a rucus. It was a smooth transaction and he communicated well. If you want them that bad you can buy them for 2000 and PAKMAN and I can split the extra cash ahaha jk. Sorry for the drama but thanks for the nice wheels PAKMAN.
Right on - good deal for you

Looking forward to seeing some pictures of them mounted on your ride. Changed your mind on trading your car for a Cherokee SRT8?
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Yeah got moved back up to the warm weather where I didn't have to trek it through a foot of snow. Might actually pick up and SRT8 as well since they are so fricken cheap these days. Plus who doesn't love the horse power those things throw out. I will post some pics as soon as I get them on the car. Sorry again, hope you find an equally great deal
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