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      03-18-2009, 07:06 PM   #23
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Very nice set up, your expert opinion, since i don't have the winter package (i don't have the ski pass thru or split seats) will the sub still sound just as good? I heard this was a problem in the E39s, the BSW subs didn't sound as good with cars that did have the winter package.
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      03-19-2009, 12:39 PM   #24
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Very nice set up, your expert opinion, since i don't have the winter package (i don't have the ski pass thru or split seats) will the sub still sound just as good? I heard this was a problem in the E39s, the BSW subs didn't sound as good with cars that didn't have the winter package.
It will sound great. The e39 is quite a bit more sealed and on those we simply knock out the ski pass(it is just perforated).

If you are unhappy with the performance at all after you install we offer the 30 day guarantee. That is to protect you so you can give it a listen. We still have not had a single one returned on the guarantee!

Let me know if you have ANY other questions!
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It will sound great. The e39 is quite a bit more sealed and on those we simply knock out the ski pass(it is just perforated).

If you are unhappy with the performance at all after you install we offer the 30 day guarantee. That is to protect you so you can give it a listen. We still have not had a single one returned on the guarantee!

Let me know if you have ANY other questions!
the Logik7 for the e90 stage 1 is on backorder, how long do you think it will be before you start shipping them out again?
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      03-19-2009, 03:52 PM   #26
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the Logik7 for the e90 stage 1 is on backorder, how long do you think it will be before you start shipping them out again?
I have 2 of them in stock. We mark them 'backorder' before we run out so we take phone orders to confirm we have them.

Shoot me a PM with your contact info if you want to grab one
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I have 2 of them in stock. We mark them 'backorder' before we run out so we take phone orders to confirm we have them.

Shoot me a PM with your contact info if you want to grab one
i will. I am just waiting on my tax returns before i make any more expenses on the car.
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      03-19-2009, 11:01 PM   #28
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Great write up - can't wait until the coupe kits become available.
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      03-20-2009, 09:10 AM   #29
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i will. I am just waiting on my tax returns before i make any more expenses on the car.
Sounds good!

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Great write up - can't wait until the coupe kits become available.
Me either!
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      03-29-2009, 05:00 PM   #30
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s.myrr,

Great install! I’m about to install the same system on my 2006 325i non-Logic system. I do have a question the PEQ remote install.

How and where did you route the PEQ remote wire. How did you get the wire from the trunk to the cabin? Any info would be great.

How does it attached to the seat?

It looks like you have the perfect location for this remote.

Thanks!
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      03-29-2009, 05:25 PM   #31
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I sent you a PM regarding this - hope it helps! Good luck and let me know if I can help more...
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Second Opinion and BSW Stage I install tips

After reading s.myrr's thread, I went ahead an installed the stage I last night. I was careful and took 4 hours. One of the tweeters was DOA and I am waiting for Halston to get back to me on it. I have the Logic7 system but no iDrive.

Like the instruction on BSW's website, most things are straight forward but there are a couple of things to be careful of:

1. The center channel is only easy if you have a offset screw driver and I don't know why BSW couldn't throw that in. I hardly used any of their tools besides the plastic pry tool so I think the tool kit is not really a necessary purchase. BTW, I dropped a small screw driver down my left center vent while trying to unscrew the screw. Can't get it out even with an antenna magnet!

2. The rear channels behind the seats are even tougher because the lack of space. The covers are surprisingly flimsy. After breaking a tab on the right side I went really slow and still broke the left one. But it is inconsequential since the cover will still work.

3. The rear doors are somehow are a little trickier to line up after everything is installed. I popped a part of two of those plastic tabs.

Sound Quality: I have to say, there is definitely a good deal of improvement over the Logic7. There is much more dynamic range and mid-bass. At the same time, the mid bass can be a little too boomy. I like bass but I like it tight. Don't know how much more the sub can do since I already have enough bass as is.

After driving around a couple of hours and also listening in my garage I feel this was a worthwhile upgrade although I wish BMW's were a little more audio upgrade friendly. I would love to get some focal speakers that really upgrade the midrange. Ultimately, the middle is where all the vocals in everything from hip-hop to classical lies.

Halston, can I get another tweeter?
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Definitely

I am waiting to hear back from my build house. As I said we don't have individual drivers as we ramp up to full stock.

Thanks for the review.
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      05-09-2009, 10:02 AM   #34
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BSW customer service problems!

I am still waiting for my tweeter that was DOA almost 2 months ago. Just get the run around. Folks, if you get BSW, good luck if you have any problems.
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      06-09-2009, 08:19 PM   #35
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LOL. Is this bad news then? I was planning to order stage 1 with the subwwoofer....
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      06-13-2009, 01:29 PM   #36
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+1 on the above post....

Thinking about a Stage 1, because my 335i came with the base audio. I like the idea of a 30 day money back guarantee, but imagine if you DID want to return it. Yobouty can't even get one DOA speaker replaced in two months. I can imagine what would happen if you want to get rid of all of them. I'm always shocked at guys who don't make customer service a priority in the age of the internet.

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The little connector you broke and replace for $.92

I did exactly the same thing. Where did you find the replacement part?
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      07-29-2011, 01:49 PM   #38
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trunk sub

Ok, I have a question. Looking at the BSW website, the trunk sub does not fit in the 335 because of the dual exhaust. Is this correct, because the OP installed it and he is in a 335 e90.

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Will the sub setup work in the trunk of an e93?

Is it possible just to buy the enclosure by itself? I have my complete alpine setup left over from my previous e46. Amp, 10" sub etc.
We have complete package or loaded enclosure.
Hi is there a website where I could look at what packages there are
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Hi is there a website where I could look at what packages there are
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http://www.bavariansoundwerks.com/pr...Series-M3-E90/

http://www.bavariansoundwerks.com/ca.../BMW+Subwoofer
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Do they do enclosures on there own and in a 12" model?
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Do they do enclosures on there own and in a 12" model?
I believe the storage bin creates the enclosure, and I don't think they have a 12 inch model for the e9x.
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It sounds really good, i'm happy with the purchase. I think this says a lot - I'm not rich, and this system is not cheap! I had high expectations, and I think they have been met. Dollar for dollar, I think that the sub offers better bang for your buck, but that may be subjective. Bass has more of a dramatic and noticeable effect to me. So if I had to choose one, it would be the sub for sure. The L7 system alone is good, really good actually. If you must have the best SQ and you don't want a sub, then the stage 1 should be at the top of your list. You at least get to crank up your EQ and feel the under-seat subs. For those who don't have L7, I bet stage one just destroys it, however I have never heard the base system. All in all the sub and stage 1 combo works for me. It's nice knowing I have a total solution, and the car sounds great!

One note - I did not use any dynamat etc, I wanted to, but never got around. I don't think this is much of an issue - no real rattles have appeared. Yet.
My issue is the following, I would like to remove as little as possible. Based on my previous experience, more parts we remove more they will become loose. I had a whole JL audio setup on previous car , it was amazing but all the panels were loose as it took me multiple tries.

I have couple of questions as I might get my hands on a Stage 1 kit:

1) I have access to some dynamat. Any rattling appeared? I saw some other thread (more like prof install on) they applied dynamat behind the BMW door panel (or sound deadening panel)

2) You mentioned for those who doen't want a sub should only do stage 1, if those who want sub and only do do stage 1. How is it? Is the SQ still there or go all the way?

Thanks for the help!
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My issue is the following, I would like to remove as little as possible. Based on my previous experience, more parts we remove more they will become loose. I had a whole JL audio setup on previous car , it was amazing but all the panels were loose as it took me multiple tries.
if you want to be 100% sure
just buy replacement plastic washers, they are about 50 cents each
i think there are about 10 per door and 3 or 4 per rear side panel
and make sure you don't drop any of the small round felt washers, those make sure the washer is in tight

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