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      04-14-2008, 12:02 PM   #23
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1st hit was..."a little dirty" to the extent that it wasn't done with intent. It was borderline boarding.
2nd hit was...CLEAN...he should have had his head up. Welcome to pro hockey

Those 2 hits didn't cause Sharks to try to protect the lead. The Sharks caused themselves to try to protect their lead. Calary just out played them.

Sharks need to win the next one or it's going to be tough to get "the mo" back.
On the second hit Sarich led with his Elbow, head down or not, thats dirty.
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Thanks for the definition but Marleau wasn't face into the boards. He went sideways into the boards (like you're supposed to) when Phaneuf laid him out. Certianly wasn't the cleanest hit, but if you're telling me that Marleau didn't turn his skates and body to be perpendicular to the boards at least a few feet from the end to stop then you're telling me that he doesn't know how to skate.

It looked brutal, I agree. And between collisions like that and players losing their edge and falling hard into the boards when they're trying to prevent (or gain) an icing call, thats why there is a debate for the no touch icing.
If he didn't go face first into the baord explain to me how he was cut above his eye. He was pounded head first into the boards by Phaneuf which is definitly a minor boarding call.
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Sharks need their star players to contribute. So far, it's all been Clowe who's looks to be the one doing a ton of work.
I completely agree, regardless of whether hits were dirty or not, the Flames outplayed the Sharks last night and deserved to win. If the Sharks are just going to keep taking this crap and Shelley, Murray or Clowe aren't gonna do something about it, this series wont last much longer. Campbell needs to start skating better, more like he was when he first got here, McLaren needs a wakeup call, and Cheech and Michalek need to find a way to be productive to relieve some of the pressure off of Joe.
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On the second hit Sarich led with his Elbow, head down or not, thats dirty.
He put his shoulder into him. Not Sarich's fault Marlow had his head down. There was a reason no penalty was called on it.

btw...this is playoff Hockey. Refs and calls don't win or lose games. Goals do.
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He put his shoulder into him. Not Sarich's fault Marlow had his head down. There was a reason no penalty was called on it.

btw...this is playoff Hockey. Refs and calls don't win or lose games. Goals do.
I didnt realize the joint between your upper arm and forearm was called your shoulder.

And if you read my post above yours, I didnt blame the refs for the loss, unlike Mike Keenan after game 2, I blamed our defensive stars for playing like they have never played hockey before and our top line for failing to relieve any pressure from Joe at all. We didn't get any favors from the refs, but we lost that game all on our own.
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Watch the 2nd angle, its very clear he led with his elbow and not his shoulder.
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[quote=Jewpac;109326]I didnt realize the joint between your upper arm and forearm was called your shoulder.

And if you read my post above yours, I didnt blame the refs for the loss, unlike Mike Keenan after game 2, I blamed our defensive stars for playing like they have never played hockey before and our top line for failing to relieve any pressure from Joe at all. We didn't get any favors from the refs, but we lost that game all on our own.[/quote]




pause at 9 seconds....CLEAN HIT.

Never left his skates
Never lifted elbow, he does lower his shoulder and lift...but that's a legal check.
Never used butt of stick

Marleau had his head down and got his bell rung.

Agreed...
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It's ok, the Bruins are going to win it all and everything else will be forgotten
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^^^

:smile: Of course

Can we all agree that Sean Avery is a dick at least? If we can all agree on that then I'm sure we can all get along.

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[quote=0002s;109335]
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I didnt realize the joint between your upper arm and forearm was called your shoulder.

And if you read my post above yours, I didnt blame the refs for the loss, unlike Mike Keenan after game 2, I blamed our defensive stars for playing like they have never played hockey before and our top line for failing to relieve any pressure from Joe at all. We didn't get any favors from the refs, but we lost that game all on our own.[/quote]




pause at 9 seconds....CLEAN HIT.

Never left his skates
Never lifted elbow, he does lower his shoulder and lift...but that's a legal check.
Never used butt of stick

Marleau had his head down and got his bell rung.

Agreed...
Look at :28 in the video I posted, he clearly winds up and leads with his elbow.
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^^^

:smile: Of course

Can we all agree that Sean Avery is a dick at least? If we can all agree on that then I'm sure we can all get along.

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Hell, yeah he is a dick. And he is very good at it.
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Look at :28 in the video I posted, he clearly winds up and leads with his elbow.
He's turn to avoid the elbow.

I'm sure we won't agree, but remember I have no care if either team wins. I just call it as I see it.
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^^^

:smile: Of course

Can we all agree that Sean Avery is a dick at least? If we can all agree on that then I'm sure we can all get along.

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I like Avery...he gets under everybody's skin.
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He's turn to avoid the elbow.
I dont understand what you mean by that.
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I dont understand what you mean by that.

He hits him with his ass facing him and his shoulder lowered. This is why he doesn't get a penalty.

He thought he got a penalty though....:wink:
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He hits him with his ass facing him and his shoulder lowered. This is why he doesn't get a penalty.

He thought he got a penalty though....:wink:
His shoulder wasn't lowered, it was elevated as you can see at :28 into the video clip I posted. Sarich hit Marleau square in the nose with his elbow.
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His shoulder wasn't lowered, it was elevated as you can see at :28 into the video clip I posted. Sarich hit Marleau square in the nose with his elbow.
I see it different, at least you have a 7 game series to get even.:biggrin:


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HOCKEY TOWN...where we know an elbow when we see it.
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I see it different, at least you have a 7 game series to get even.:biggrin:


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HOCKEY TOWN...where we know an elbow when we see it.
Hockeytown is St. Paul, you shouldn't be allowed to call Detroit hiockey town if you cant even sell out your arena.
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Hockeytown is St. Paul, you shouldn't be allowed to call Detroit hiockey town if you cant even sell out your arena.
We don't call is Hiockey Town....How many Cups does San Jose have again?
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We don't call is Hiockey Town....How many Cups does San Jose have again?
Forgive the typo. We sell out our building.
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Forgive the typo. We sell out our building.
To bad they don't give Lord Stanley's Cup based on best out of 7 in attendance.....
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To bad they don't give Lord Stanley's Cup based on best out of 7 in attendance.....
Its OK, you wont be taking home the cup this year anyhow, you have no goaltending.

Not to bring up old topics, but Sarich knew it was an elbow too, why else would he have skated into the box after the play?
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