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      06-18-2006, 12:33 PM   #1
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DYNO TEST OUTCOME at TECHNIK: Tech details, VIDEO, etc.

TEASER VIDEO: http://livedigital.com/content/419039/u45976

EVENT: Dynamometer (HP, torque, air/fuel ratio testing), June 17, 2006--High Noon

Technik Engineering
13428 Beach Ave
Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
contact: Mike @ 310.306.4060

RUN CONDITIONS:

82.24 degrees F, 29.84 in-Hg, Humidity: 38-43%, SAE: 1.00

CARS TESTED: 330i 6MT, 330i Step, 325i 6MT, 325i Step

DISCLAIMER ON RESULTS POSTING: I respectfully request that dyno test results be posted only by the owner of the results or by me with the explicit consent of the member whose car was tested. I shall treat participants' information as confidential unless notified otherwise.

- MORE VIDEOS TO FOLLOW!

- ELECTIVE POSTING OF DYNO RESULTS TO FOLLOW!

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THE VIDEOS:

Intro Teaser: http://livedigital.com/content/419039/u45976

magmd (330i Steptronic,18" Style 162s):
http://livedigital.com/content/419703/u45976

LWL Kerscher Exhaust during dyno - shot from L rear (video by aphall):
http://livedigital.com/content/419257/u82302

LWL Kerscher Exhaust during dyno - shot from R rear
http://livedigital.com/content/420670/u45976

mava330 (Honda S2000) - MAC ATTACK!
http://livedigital.com/content/420965/u45976

HoosBMW (330i 6MT, 18" Style 162s):
http://livedigital.com/content/425440/u45976

More videos will be posted over the next few days.
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ELECTIVE POSTING OF DYNO RESULTS:
Posted upon consent of member; please check back for updates.

HP ratings will be lower than numbers posted by BMW
- HP here is measured at the rear wheels (power to the ground)
- HP numbers from the factory are measured at the flywheel
- power loss is transmitted through the drivetrain from engine to the rear wheel (transmission, drive shaft, axle, etc.)
- bear in mind performance numbers are affected by ambient weather conditions as recorded toward the bottom of each dyno graph.

Flywheel Horsepower vs Rear-Wheel Horsepower:
http://www.enjoythedrive.com/content/?id=26050

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"The difference between flywheel horsepower and rear-wheel horsepower will vary from vehicle to vehicle, depending on many factors," adds Gale Banks Engineering, "but we find that rear-wheel horsepower is usually between 18 percent and 25 percent less than flywheel horsepower."
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did you guys see the 330 there w the 20" bbs wheels and the CF CSL trunk and some motor work done to it?
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did you guys see the 330 there w the 20" bbs wheels and the CF CSL trunk and some motor work done to it?
Yea and they also have this white M3 turbo in the works as well!
Kevin was saying its the only M3 turbo around! (due to electrical conversion) noone else has done it..
It was an e90 with Kwv2 coilovers 20" BBS 10.5in. rear wheels 295? tread..
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And i didnt get a motor lowdown??? anyone
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i wanna see long's car!!
dang... 330i doesnt even have as much hp as the 325 claims. i wonder if the 325 is indeed just as fast.
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i was told there's a cam under that hood...
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Yep, the HP differential between manual and step was more than I thought it would be.
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Quote:
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dang... 330i doesnt even have as much hp as the 325 claims. i wonder if the 325 is indeed just as fast.
Hi uhaulball,

That's why I posted this above:

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HP ratings will be lower than numbers posted by BMW
- HP here is measured at the rear wheels (power to the ground)
- HP numbers from the factory are measured at the flywheel
- power loss is transmitted through the drivetrain from engine to the rear wheel (transmission, drive shaft, axle, etc.)
- bear in mind performance numbers are affected by ambient weather conditions as recorded toward the bottom of each dyno graph.
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i was told there's a cam under that hood...
of tecniks E90???
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normal loss for auto is 20%, the #s the 330i auto put down should be about 10hp more and a few more ponies for the 6mt. The numbers look low.
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A HUGE thanks to Michael for putting this event together!!! Another holla goes out to all the participants and to those who agreed to post the results!

Thanks for the info!

Dynos are not standard. Further, results vary with conditions, so I do not get caught up in the over-analysis of any dyno results.

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I forgot to say thanks for posting the dynos. Also what is the proper gear for the step tranny on the dyno, 5th?
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I forgot to say thanks for posting the dynos. Also what is the proper gear for the step tranny on the dyno, 5th?

ooohhh. I might be wrong, but think they mentioned that it needed to be in M4 mode. Can we get verification guys??
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Nice

The place i took my car to get dynoed is a place call BHS

They do all the work on my car and they had a 750 HP M3 supercharged in the back

Can you imagine 750 hp in an m3??!?
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i dont know if anyone noticed but that trunk was a bit different than stock

and they were running 20x10 295/25/20 on that rear end...crazy...
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Nice

The place i took my car to get dynoed is a place call BHS

They do all the work on my car and they had a 750 HP M3 supercharged in the back

Can you imagine 750 hp in an m3??!?
Is it an e36 or e46 m3? Just asking because I know that D motorsport in UK makes 1000hp e36 m3.
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normal loss for auto is 20%, the #s the 330i auto put down should be about 10hp more and a few more ponies for the 6mt. The numbers look low.
Numbers may seem low, but . . .

"The difference between flywheel horsepower and rear-wheel horsepower will vary from vehicle to vehicle, depending on many factors," adds Gale Banks Engineering, "but we find that rear-wheel horsepower is usually between 18 percent and 25 percent less than flywheel horsepower."

Based on this, I calculated expectations under OPTIMAL CONDITIONS for rear wheel horsepower for the 2006 E90:

325i
FLYWHEEL HORSEPOWER: 215 hp @ 6250 rpm
Rear WHEEL (18% less): 176.3 hp calculated off factory numbers
Rear WHEEL (25% less): 161 hp calculated off factory numbers

330i
FLYWHEEL HORSEPOWER: 255 hp @ 6600 RPM
Rear WHEEL (18% less): 209.1 hp calculated off factory numbers
Rear WHEEL (25% less): 191.25 hp calculated off factory numbers

Run conditions were less than ideal (hot day, increased humidity). Yet, regardless of this, our dyno runs were still generally on par and occasionally better than what would be expected as calculated from factory specs within statistical margin of error.

So the numbers were right on the money.
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Mac! Your sheet looked like my old vtec ones before I installed the Apexi Vtec controller. Have you considered getting a VAFC to smooth out that spike at 6K?

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i dont know if anyone noticed but that trunk was a bit different than stock

and they were running 20x10 295/25/20 on that rear end...crazy...
The trunk was the reason they would not let us take any photos so yeah we noticed. The rear fenders were not widened at all but I believe they cut and reshaped the inner fenders. I felt it and it's completely flush. Oh and the fronts are rubbing on the car.
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