RENN spec - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

mike-y · 02-04-2009, 11:26 AM

I can understand if the part was a custom order, and you have to pay up front for them to make the part for you, then you might not get the deposit back because there was work involved to make the part. But these are mass produced, off-the-shelf parts. If you are any kind of reputable dealer or supplier, you don't get billed until the parts are actually shipped to you.

And this is $100 we are talking about here, not thousands. just think of all the bad publicity this company is getting over a measly $100. Sounds like renn spec is a small time outfit who probably doesn't stock merchandise (or has very little stock) until it's actually ordered by a customer (and smaller dealers can't always match the low prices of a large volume dealer). This is not necessarily bad, but it can make it difficult to move product when you don't always have it in stock. Unfortunately, things like this hurt the small business owner more than a larger one.

EdmBimmer · 02-04-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Holden_Caulfield04

I know, it's so extraordinarily different - our two systems, separated by Lake Ontario. It's not even a big lake.

The point is this, a deposit is a promise for a sale. When you negate that promise, you forfeit your deposit. Now, Renn Spec has been exceptionally fair in my opinion. They've offered you credit for the item you wish to purchase (if I understand you correctly). Why are you still attempting to damage their good name?

I'm in Canada and I don't know where you shop.

When I placed my order for an X5d at the dealership no deposit was taken because they didn't have pricing and a delivery date. My wife and I still picked out options and color. As it came close to getting a build date we ended up buying a 535i that was in stock. They asked for a deposit, and I had them tell me and write it out on the Bill of Sale that it was REFUNDABLE. I can understand if we ordered some messed up color with options that wasn't going to be re-sellable that we'd leave a non-refundable deposit for the X5d. But the springs are regular stock that H & R is currently out of. Well, that would tell me demand is high so if I brought it in for a customer and he flakes, I'm sure I'd still be able to sell them.

In the case of the OP, he put down the $100 with no mention from the vendor that it was going to be non-refundable. What are the springs worth, maybe $250-300? Is it really worth the $100 to Renn? I sure hope not. With the way the economy is now they should strive to build customer relations instead of taking $100 for no real work done.

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sc88

I'm in Canada and I don't know where you shop.

When I placed my order for an X5d at the dealership no deposit was taken because they didn't have pricing and a delivery date. My wife and I still picked out options and color. As it came close to getting a build date we ended up buying a 535i that was in stock. They asked for a deposit, and I had them tell me and write it out on the Bill of Sale that it was REFUNDABLE. I can understand if we ordered some messed up color with options that wasn't going to be re-sellable that we'd leave a non-refundable deposit for the X5d. But the springs are regular stock that H & R is currently out of. Well, that would tell me demand is high so if I brought it in for a customer and he flakes, I'm sure I'd still be able to sell them.

In the case of the OP, he put down the $100 with no mention from the vendor that it was going to be non-refundable. What are the springs worth, maybe $250-300? Is it really worth the $100 to Renn? I sure hope not. With the way the economy is now they should strive to build customer relations instead of taking $100 for no real work done.

yup and now they have all this bad publicity all over my $100 bucks ... really hope this was worth it renn spec !

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 12:24 PM

btw still no reply to my emails yet they have posted on the forum ...

AdamJ · 02-04-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWhite1015

btw still no reply to my emails yet they have posted on the forum ...

So did you pay with a credit card or not?

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AdamJ

So did you pay with a credit card or not?

yes i paid with my cc

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Originally Posted by ButterzM

They don't usually get to work until after lunch...... plus you might want to post this over on M3Post too.

whys that ?

Kit523 · 02-04-2009, 12:49 PM

sorry for what happen to u man
a deposit should be refundable!
since they never stated saying the deposit is "non"-refundable....
scammers?

for the guy who said the deposit is non-refundable seems bs to me
unless u sign or read sth stating that "this deposit is non-refundable" before paying them or else all deposit is refundable....
it's their problem for not making it clear.....

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kit523

sorry for what happen to u man
a deposit should be refundable!
since they never stated saying the deposit is "non"-refundable....
scammers?

for the guy who said the deposit is non-refundable seems bs to me
unless u sign or read sth stating that "this deposit is non-refundable" before paying them or else all deposit is refundable....
it's their problem for not making it clear.....

yup im probably just going to go through my cc to get my money back ... since they have yet to reply to me

Kit523 · 02-04-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWhite1015

yup im probably just going to go through my cc to get my money back ... since they have yet to reply to me

just do that.....dun even deal with them= =
waste of time...

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kit523

just do that.....dun even deal with them= =
waste of time...

its all been done ... faxed a letter stating what happened ... my money will be back in there later today or tomorrow and they issued me a new card incase they try to bill me again

lesson learned dont order from renn spec

Holden_Caulfield04 · 02-04-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWhite1015

its all been done ... faxed a letter stating what happened ... my money will be back in there later today or tomorrow and they issued me a new card incase they try to bill me again

lesson learned dont order from renn spec

Just so you learn from this, people may

and make judgments about your character and whether or not they wish to do business with you. That goes for everything you write in a public forum.

Just a friendly warning.

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Holden_Caulfield04

Just so you learn from this, people may

and make judgments about your character and whether or not they wish to do business with you. That goes for everything you write in a public forum.

Just a friendly warning.

yeah im sure no1 is going to take my money ....

AdamJ · 02-04-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWhite1015

yes i paid with my cc

So why would you wait for a vendor to credit you, when you can go straight to your credit card company to dispute the charge?

SE3P_to_E90 · 02-04-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Holden_Caulfield04

Just so you learn from this, people may

and make judgments about your character and whether or not they wish to do business with you. That goes for everything you write in a public forum.

Just a friendly warning.

Umm, he hasn't written anything bad... Renn Spec or whatever that vendor has no "right" not refunding his money w/o a disclaimer that specifically states that deposits are nonrefundable... also, as the OP said, i have no doubt in my mind, and am reluctant to believe, that a vendor will refuse him as a potential customer because he started this forum warning potential customers about how shady RS is...

If i were in the OP's shoes, i'd even file a complaint w/ the BBB. my 2cents.

Jimmeh · 02-04-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Holden_Caulfield04

Just so you learn from this, people may

and make judgments about your character and whether or not they wish to do business with you. That goes for everything you write in a public forum.

Just a friendly warning.

I just remembered why I liked South Park The Movie so much.......

Hedges · 02-04-2009, 03:28 PM

Give the money back! Bad business practice!

mJ335 · 02-04-2009, 03:29 PM

scammers FTL.. really wanna jack OPs money like that?? So sad to see this.. Renn should chime in asap.

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 05:01 PM

all i am gonna say is that they have more then made it up to me and i am going to be doing business with them

SE3P_to_E90 · 02-04-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWhite1015

all i am gonna say is that they have more then made it up to me and i am going to be doing business with them

Since this entire thread is about bashing RennSpec, and we have no idea what good they did to you to make it up, care to share what they offered?

MrWhite1015 · 02-04-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SE3P_to_E90

Since this entire thread is about bashing RennSpec, and we have no idea what good they did to you to make it up, care to share what they offered?

explained a few things and why it took so long to get back to me... offered my money back ... and a great great price on some coilovers .... beat everyone i have asked... that .. more then makes up for it in my mind ... situations come and go and they more then made it up to me ... at least in my mind

mike-y · 02-04-2009, 05:57 PM

ahh, the power of the intArwebs.

Glad it worked out for you, and glad Renn Spec stepped up to make their customers happy. Looks like this is going to be a win-win situation

Kit523 · 02-04-2009, 05:59 PM

+1^^^

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02-04-2009, 11:26 AM	#23
mike-y just another bmw douche bag Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,789 iTrader: (4)	I can understand if the part was a custom order, and you have to pay up front for them to make the part for you, then you might not get the deposit back because there was work involved to make the part. But these are mass produced, off-the-shelf parts. If you are any kind of reputable dealer or supplier, you don't get billed until the parts are actually shipped to you. And this is $100 we are talking about here, not thousands. just think of all the bad publicity this company is getting over a measly $100. Sounds like renn spec is a small time outfit who probably doesn't stock merchandise (or has very little stock) until it's actually ordered by a customer (and smaller dealers can't always match the low prices of a large volume dealer). This is not necessarily bad, but it can make it difficult to move product when you don't always have it in stock. Unfortunately, things like this hurt the small business owner more than a larger one.

02-04-2009, 12:49 PM	#29
Kit523 Major General Drives: 2009 AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: B.C. Vancouver Posts: 6,784 iTrader: (25)	sorry for what happen to u man a deposit should be refundable! since they never stated saying the deposit is "non"-refundable.... scammers? for the guy who said the deposit is non-refundable seems bs to me unless u sign or read sth stating that "this deposit is non-refundable" before paying them or else all deposit is refundable.... it's their problem for not making it clear.....

02-04-2009, 03:28 PM	#38
Hedges Major General Drives: 12 C63 AMG Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 5,182 iTrader: (8)	Give the money back! Bad business practice!

02-04-2009, 05:57 PM	#43
mike-y just another bmw douche bag Drives: 1.9L of fury Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2,789 iTrader: (4)	ahh, the power of the intArwebs. Glad it worked out for you, and glad Renn Spec stepped up to make their customers happy. Looks like this is going to be a win-win situation

02-04-2009, 05:59 PM	#44
Kit523 Major General Drives: 2009 AW E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: B.C. Vancouver Posts: 6,784 iTrader: (25)	+1^^^