Bavarian Technic Diagnostic Tool - Page 4 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

scalbert · 02-10-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mwahlert

which did you order?

I picked 3 day delivery so it should be here on Friday.

I pick the Enthusiast version, may upgrade down the road and this should be useful in my upcoming testing (I'm glad I got delayed too.

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mwahlert · 02-10-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

I picked 3 day delivery so it should be here on Friday.

I pick the Enthusiast version, may upgrade down the road and this should be useful in my upcoming testing (I'm glad I got delayed too.

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i ordered the pro cable - usps priority mail - which estimates 2 days....so i should have it this weekend too!

woohoo for high speed data logging.

E82tt6 · 02-10-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

Nice find... good thing I didn't waste money on a GT1, this is like 10% of the cost, and has constant updates! hopefully it reads everything!

The Autologic is also a bit cheaper than the GT1, and fully portable. Completely capable of reprogramming/coding/etc. However, it is MUCH more expensive, $13,000 or so...

Not sure what the pro version of this goes for, though, it might be comparable. I've played with the autologic, and I REALLY like it.

scalbert · 02-10-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by E82tt6

Not sure what the pro version of this goes for, though, it might be comparable.

Roughly $750

Bubbles · 02-10-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scalbert

Roughly $750

It looks like you can't upgrade from enthusiast to pro.

scalbert · 02-10-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

It looks like you can't upgrade from enthusiast to pro.

Can't or won't? There is always a way.

mwahlert · 02-10-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

It looks like you can't upgrade from enthusiast to pro.

yes you can.

"We do offer an upgrade to the professional version, but the enthusiast cable must be sent back to us as the cable cannot be field upgraded. Our offer is that you can apply 100% of the purchase cost towards a professional version.

The enthusiast version can have its vehicles cleared out. We do this one time for no charge but after that it is a $50 fee to clear the VINs. We can do this remotely"

scalbert · 02-10-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mwahlert

yes you can.

"We do offer an upgrade to the professional version, but the enthusiast cable must be sent back to us as the cable cannot be field upgraded. Our offer is that you can apply 100% of the purchase cost towards a professional version.

The enthusiast version can have its vehicles cleared out. We do this one time for no charge but after that it is a $50 fee to clear the VINs. We can do this remotely"

Even better.

Bubbles · 02-10-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mwahlert

yes you can.

"We do offer an upgrade to the professional version, but the enthusiast cable must be sent back to us as the cable cannot be field upgraded. Our offer is that you can apply 100% of the purchase cost towards a professional version.

The enthusiast version can have its vehicles cleared out. We do this one time for no charge but after that it is a $50 fee to clear the VINs. We can do this remotely"

Perfect, did they email you that?

I was referring to the their website statement below:

Enthusiast Package

This package is designed for the BMW enthusiast that works on there own car. It offers most of the great features as our professional kit but will only work on up to 3 cars.

1 Bavarian Technic Diagnostic cable for BMW and MINI
Installation instructions
Future software updates

The enthusiast version stores the vehicles identification number of car it is attached to into the hardware.
This limits to tool to be used on only three(3) cars.
Enthusiast versions cannot be upgraded to professional versions.
The enthusiast version does not have access to coding or command console.
May not have access to some activations that should only be used by professionals
Workshop information is not available in the Enthusiast versions

joec500 · 02-10-2009, 10:18 PM

Hmmmmm maybe with this device we can have TWO ecu's, one for service and one for errrr "offroad use" ?

mwahlert · 02-10-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Perfect, did they email you that?

I was referring to the their website statement below:

Enthusiast Package

This package is designed for the BMW enthusiast that works on there own car. It offers most of the great features as our professional kit but will only work on up to 3 cars.

1 Bavarian Technic Diagnostic cable for BMW and MINI
Installation instructions
Future software updates

The enthusiast version stores the vehicles identification number of car it is attached to into the hardware.
This limits to tool to be used on only three(3) cars.
Enthusiast versions cannot be upgraded to professional versions.
The enthusiast version does not have access to coding or command console.
May not have access to some activations that should only be used by professionals
Workshop information is not available in the Enthusiast versions

yeah they e-mailed me that...

i ended up buying the pro cable now and just get it over with

Choolgooz · 02-11-2009, 01:28 AM

How long before someone developes a custom flash using this? Will the real shark edit please stand up?

So.. would it not be a good time to buy a Piggyback or is that a bit premature?

mwahlert · 02-11-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Choolgooz

How long before someone developes a custom flash using this? Will the real shark edit please stand up?

So.. would it not be a good time to buy a Piggyback or is that a bit premature?

i think we have a ways to go before they offer at home flashing brought to you by your tuner of choice.

Jeeves915 · 02-11-2009, 10:20 AM

If this offered @ home flashing with tuner provided maps (as is often done in the Evo market), I'd have already dropped the coin on this.
I'd even drop the coin on the Pro version for home flashing, if it was at all possible.

However, $300 for clearing "hidden" code is invaulable for all you guys who are running tuned out there. Great peace of mind when it comes to the warranty.

Now, one wonders WTF happened to the SharkEdit boys...
-Adam

Bubbles · 02-11-2009, 11:24 AM

It looks like the guy behind this project is Duram Plummer. This guy developed the Durametric tool for Porsches.

amsfoto · 02-11-2009, 11:38 AM

I've seen a few posts about MSD81...what's the deal? Will it work or no?

slubu · 02-11-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by amsfoto

I've seen a few posts about MSD81...what's the deal? Will it work or no?

+1

Bubbles, help us folks out here.

Bubbles · 02-11-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by slubu

+1

Bubbles, help us folks out here.

It looks like this software only supports MSD80 right now. I'm waiting to hear back from the developer regarding MSD81 support.

BavarianBullet · 02-11-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

It looks like this software only supports MSD80 right now. I'm waiting to hear back from the developer regarding MSD81 support.

I think it has to support MSD81 as it claims it supports the 135 which is only available in MSD81.

BB

BavarianBullet · 02-11-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeeves915

If this offered @ home flashing with tuner provided maps (as is often done in the Evo market), I'd have already dropped the coin on this.
I'd even drop the coin on the Pro version for home flashing, if it was at all possible.

However, $300 for clearing "hidden" code is invaulable for all you guys who are running tuned out there. Great peace of mind when it comes to the warranty.

Now, one wonders WTF happened to the SharkEdit boys...
-Adam

I agree re the utility of clearing hidden codes for around $300. Sweeet.

If you read the earlier post by mwahlert on page 3 BT responding saying they weren't offering custom flashes because of the legal implications. Maybe that's the black hole that ate shark edit as well.

That seems a bit odd though considering flashing is done with other brands already but maybe they just didn't want to cross that bridge yet?

I'd be willing to bet one or more tuners are already talking to these guys about what can and can't be done and we'll hear more soon. Very exciting indeed!

BB

335iPaul · 02-11-2009, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by joec500

Hmmmmm maybe with this device we can have TWO ecu's, one for service and one for errrr "offroad use" ?

Hmm, love the thought of the "off road" version.

Bubbles · 02-11-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BavarianBullet

I think it has to support MSD81 as it claims it supports the 135 which is only available in MSD81.

BB

I believe the 135i came with the MSD80 prior to 03/2008.

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Jeeves915 Private Drives: Space Grey 6AT Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Auburn, Al Posts: 93 iTrader: (0)	If this offered @ home flashing with tuner provided maps (as is often done in the Evo market), I'd have already dropped the coin on this. I'd even drop the coin on the Pro version for home flashing, if it was at all possible. However, $300 for clearing "hidden" code is invaulable for all you guys who are running tuned out there. Great peace of mind when it comes to the warranty. Now, one wonders WTF happened to the SharkEdit boys... -Adam

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amsfoto photographer Drives: AW e92 335i, JB 135i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 571 iTrader: (4)	I've seen a few posts about MSD81...what's the deal? Will it work or no?