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      02-11-2009, 07:10 PM   #23
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I think it looks pretty good. It's nice to finally see American companies make something I'd seriously consider buying. GM's Caddy CTS and Pontiac G8 are great cars and now Ford will have a sports sedan that can compete. It's too early to tell how fast this thing is going to be, but it's bigger, costs a bit less, and might be able to blow the doors off of a 335i. If it's refined and handles well, this may be the car to get.
I have a hard time believing that the SHO is going to compete with a 335i. For one thing, the Taurus is 32 inches longer than a 335i (202.9 in. vs. 178.2 in. - source: Edmunds.com). I think a more appropriate comparison would be to the 5er, as well as to the Caddy and Pontiac that you mentioned.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that this thing isn't going to handle nearly as well as a bimmer, but that's just me letting Ford's past performance (or lack thereof) prejudice my speculation on their future potential.
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1. Whatever the F/I engine and the HP/TQ, it will not be as fast as a BMW 335i.

2. It will not come close to handling as well as a BMW.

3. It will be a heavy boat.

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Oh, and...

5.
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Is it trying to compete with a 335i?^^^
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1. Whatever the F/I engine and the HP/TQ, it will not be as fast as a BMW 335i.

2. It will not come close to handling as well as a BMW.

3. It will be a heavy boat.

4.

Oh, and...

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It's the size of a 7 Series and AWD. Why would anyone think it's going to be as fast as a 335i?
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Is it trying to compete with a 335i?^^^
Not necessarily, but with a starting price of $38k, I'd say it's close to the ballpark...so, a loaded SHO might be a bit over $41k (may not be too many options).
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The interior looks great, I can't say the same for the exterior. In '97 I bought a used '95 SHO. It was the first car I've ever had that I got a loan on and spent more than 2k on. I miss that baby, she was a great car, one of the first few sport sedans.
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      02-11-2009, 11:54 PM   #30
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Couldn't they have chosen a different gear lever design?
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Interesting car... The drivetrain sounds pretty impressive, but the exterior and interior are still awful like almost every other Ford...I guess they are addressing one thing at a time
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Dear Ford

Please get out of the car business.

Thanks

PS. Please pass this message on the GM and Dodge.
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My '04 F150 looked great and never had a single problem. Same goes for my '95 SHO.
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Oh My...Must have touched a nerve with you Seminole

How long have you been waiting to use that graphic? lol.

Get the F**k out of where? The Ford fan club? Way ahead of you.

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Oh My...Must have touched a nerve with you Seminole

How long have you been waiting to use that graphic? lol.

Get the F**k out of where? The Ford fan club? Way ahead of you.
Why do so many young BMW owners try so hard to prove that the cock stereotype is true?

Way to be a closed minded prick, my friend.
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Oh My...Must have touched a nerve with you Seminole

How long have you been waiting to use that graphic? lol.

Get the F**k out of where? The Ford fan club? Way ahead of you.
what's wrong with this car
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1. Whatever the F/I engine and the HP/TQ, it will not be as fast as a BMW 335i.

2. It will not come close to handling as well as a BMW.

3. It will be a heavy boat.

4.

Oh, and...

5.
I bet many people said this about the Cadillac CTS-V before too.......yet it would spank not only a 335i but also an M3. Around the Nurburgring.
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I bet many people said this about the Cadillac CTS-V before too.......yet it would spank not only a 335i but also an M3. Around the Nurburgring.
Sorry, apples-oranges comparison; the CTS-V has always has the 'Vette engine, and now it has a detuned version of the S/C'd 'Vette ZR-1 engine. This is not exactly the same as the Ford Taurus SHO.
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Why do so many young BMW owners try so hard to prove that the cock stereotype is true?

Way to be a closed minded prick, my friend.
What are you talking about? I am not a Ford fan so you place me in a stereotyped group?
I am likely older then you.
I have owned my share of foreign and domestics so I can speak with some degree of experience.

PS. Prick? Thanks for prooving the internet forum stereotype.
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what's wrong with this car

No idea. Havent seen it. Just not a fan of anything domestic. Sorry I have an opinion.
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No idea. Havent seen it. Just not a fan of anything domestic. Sorry I have an opinion.
I'm glad you announced your ignorance.
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Take a look at Ford of Europe for handling, pretty sure they have some good people there. This is one of the first things that Mulally has had a hand in along with the face lifted Mustang. Completely new designs under his leadership are still a couple of years away. Out of all the domestic manufacturers I’m most behind Ford for trying to get their act together on their own instead of asking for handouts just to survive.

This is more of a Pontiac G8 and Charger competitor as it’s a very large car or perhaps a cheap version of a 550 which is what $20k more so obviously not going to be compared to it.
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