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      02-14-2009, 12:05 AM   #23
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Has a dealer given anyone a problem with having a BMS single filter on their car?
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if you get your warranty voided, you have to pretty ignorant. make sure its back to stock engine wise, and you should be good unless you have a dick dealer. once you are in the system tho, it is shared with BMW Corporate so any dealer you go to will know...
Bumping a "semi-old" thread. I recently sold my vehicle, and he dropped the car off for a potential mis-fire he was having. He was told that the vehicle's ECU Warranty was voided due to tune. I never had an ECU tune... any suggestions on what and who I need to talk to to rectify this situation? The car is currently at the dealer (same dealer I went to when I owned it). I was never made aware of the situation from the dealer when I owned the vehicle.
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While we on warrany/jb3 relationship subject I have a quick question. Soon I will be taken my car for first scheduled service (15000 miles). I have jb3 on. I think this service includes only oil change and HVAC filter change (I might be wrong). Should I take jb3 of just for this service? Thanks
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While we on warrany/jb3 relationship subject I have a quick question. Soon I will be taken my car for first scheduled service (15000 miles). I have jb3 on. I think this service includes only oil change and HVAC filter change (I might be wrong). Should I take jb3 of just for this service? Thanks
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Bumping a "semi-old" thread. I recently sold my vehicle, and he dropped the car off for a potential mis-fire he was having. He was told that the vehicle's ECU Warranty was voided due to tune. I never had an ECU tune... any suggestions on what and who I need to talk to to rectify this situation? The car is currently at the dealer (same dealer I went to when I owned it). I was never made aware of the situation from the dealer when I owned the vehicle.
I suppose you need to find out what they are basing that information on. If you never tuned the car, yet they say it was tuned, there has to be an explanation. Maybe the guy who purchased it put something on it and isn't telling you.
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I suppose you need to find out what they are basing that information on. If you never tuned the car, yet they say it was tuned, there has to be an explanation. Maybe the guy who purchased it put something on it and isn't telling you.
In the BMW system it's states that the "note" was taken during a service while I still had the car.
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In the BMW system it's states that the "note" was taken during a service while I still had the car.
What kind of service?
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In the BMW system it's states that the "note" was taken during a service while I still had the car.
This almost certainly means that you had a fault code (suggesting the presence of a tuning device) logged in the DME while you had the car (possibly indicated by the mileage stamp), and this code was read/found when it went in for service with the new owner. I'm not sure there's much you can do about it (beg the SA for coverage?) since they'll have all of this documented.
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      05-14-2009, 01:59 PM   #31
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I'm coming up to the big 50k.
I'm thinking of getting the extended but there's a part of me that's happy about never going back to the dealer again.
Get EZ care, we deal with them a lot here and the cover EVERYTHING!
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In the BMW system it's states that the "note" was taken during a service while I still had the car.
If they never notified you about this while you owned the car, you should be able to get this handled. It definately won't be easy though. I'm assuming you had the car advertised as having the remaining factory warranty which unfortunately drags you into the problem.

Good luck with this one. I've been lucky with my car, but hearing all this crap about warranty claims makes me not want to buy a new BMW ever again.
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Get EZ care, we deal with them a lot here and the cover EVERYTHING!
I ended up going with the BMW CPO warranty.
I'm covered until 100k miles with a $50 deductible.
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When people mention warranty does that include like oil changes.... brake changes etc?.. Ive been confused for the longest time... What if i were to get an eisenmann exhaust.. then im due for brake change and the whole shabang... can they decline me if they see an exhaust?
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When people mention warranty does that include like oil changes.... brake changes etc?.. Ive been confused for the longest time... What if i were to get an eisenmann exhaust.. then im due for brake change and the whole shabang... can they decline me if they see an exhaust?
no tonkee, they cannot
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No warranty work has been denied. But I have declared my powertrain warranty to be voided. Even disclosed modifications to SA in an attempt to preserve some integrity. I moddified the vehicle and I will be honest about it. It is for the dealer then to decide if they will make any repairs if needed. If they don't, we part as friends and I put my wrenching gloves on.

This removes some weight from my shoulders and I sleep a little better at night.
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When people mention warranty does that include like oil changes.... brake changes etc?.. Ive been confused for the longest time... What if i were to get an eisenmann exhaust.. then im due for brake change and the whole shabang... can they decline me if they see an exhaust?
No, thats the "extended maintenance" which can also be extended to 100,000 miles, but is not included as part of the CPO or extended warranty.
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will warrenty be voided on changing bumpers?
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      05-16-2009, 12:28 PM   #39
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if you get your warranty voided, you have to pretty ignorant. make sure its back to stock engine wise, and you should be good unless you have a dick dealer. once you are in the system tho, it is shared with BMW Corporate so any dealer you go to will know...
So are you saying that everytime you use the Bt Scan Tool that the car data logs the access to the ecu? That means the dealer will know you have accessed the computer to potentially clear codes?
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Bump for last response. If u clear a fault code..is it stored in the dme showing that u cleared a code of any type?
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no i think he means once a dealer flags u as having modifications and denying warranty work, its shared on their network and every time your VIN comes up in other dealers they know u had the issue.
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I'm sorry for asking this noob question, but i'm curious if my warranty get voided if change my intake, exhaust system, downpipe and BOV.
Thanks.
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Can you buy the extended warranty just before you hit 50K?

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You can buy the CPO warranty up to 60k miles, which will then last you until 100k miles.
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This is a bit of a worn out topic that has been discussed many times over the past several years.

In general BMW is pretty damn straightforward in regard to mods and tuning. If the mod does something that could mess with the specs and there is a problem in that area you are likely to get warranty coverage denied. Intake, downpipes, tune, etc. can all affect engine parts including HPFPs, turbos, etc.

Most instances of warranty denial get negotiated. OEM parts are put back in and everybody is happy. When really bad things happen, arrangements are often made that involve not talking about the event. So don't expect folks that have had warranty issues to be blabbing about them online. Second point is that it is a good idea to be on good terms with your dealer, they can be very helpful. But when your car is hooked up to the computer, there is a lot of data that is sent to Munich. And that data can indicate a lot of things about your car and what you have been doing with it. To the best of my knowledge this is not intended as a mod witch hunt by BMW AG. But dealers can't save your butt if AG or NA get a whiff of mod related problems.

Bottom line: if you use a tune and have engine problems, don't expect BMW to fix it for free. They are pretty liberal in regard to HPFP coverage now. But if there are clear consequences from tune use that result in specific failures, don't expect such generosity in the future.
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