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      07-13-2005, 05:09 PM   #1
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Performance tires and snow...Questions

Anyone have the performance tires and drive in snow? I am not talking OMG storm of 2005 snow, but I do ski and sometimes the roads are not cleared.

I will change to all season if they are that bad, but living in Italy I would rather have the performance for the 9 months out of the year.

I have heard everything from they are the best in rain, but zero traction in snow, to great in rain, and ok in snow, but I would rather hear it from someone that has actually done it, versus one that is guessing.

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      07-13-2005, 05:20 PM   #2
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Anyone have the performance tires and drive in snow? I am not talking OMG storm of 2005 snow, but I do ski and sometimes the roads are not cleared.

I will change to all season if they are that bad, but living in Italy I would rather have the performance for the 9 months out of the year.

I have heard everything from they are the best in rain, but zero traction in snow, to great in rain, and ok in snow, but I would rather hear it from someone that has actually done it, versus one that is guessing.

Mike
I lived in Mammoth (a very snowy mountain town in California) for 5 years and let me tell you that winter tires make a BIG difference in any kind of snow or ice.

I haven't driven my BMW in the snow yet (only came out in May) but my last car was a Jetta. I had a lot of experience driving it and a GTI in Mammoth on different tires, and it was like night and day in the snow with snow tires. I would highly advise against going into the snow with the sport tires, and would advise caution with the "all-weather" tires. (of course I would advise caution with snow tires too, but to a lesser degree).

I had been away for 6 years when I last went to Mammoth in my Jetta with Summer tires on, and it snowed, and I was really in a bad way. I could barely stop several times, and without ABS, I would have crashed twice. I had been used to my Jetta and GTI with snow tires previously, and never had that kind of problems with winter or all-weather tires. I was really really scared. I made it around, but it was dicey to say the least. If you could fit cable chains without damaging the car, I would carry them at least.

If I were going to take my BMW up to Mammoth any time between October and June, I would either carry chains, or get snow or all-weather tires. I am not sure chains would fit (cable chains maybe), however.

Keep in mind that I drove on snowy roads for probably 100 days a year for 5 years, so I have a good deal of experience with this. (although the snow melts off pretty quickly up there).
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Listen to CC330 he knows what he's talkin bout
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      07-13-2005, 06:33 PM   #4
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Listen to CC330 he knows what he's talkin bout
Definitely!

Also, do a search about snow/winter driving here on E90post.com. There have been a TON of posts on this very topic.
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Snow and performance tires just don't mix. While I could have put snow tires on my 2000 328, I decided to just get a used truck instead. Born and raised up here in the North, thought I could manage it, nope. Traction control and ABS pulsing all the time. Totally white-knuckle driving and very close to several accidents.

When my original performance tires needed replacing, I replaced them with aggressive all-season, lost some handling but snow & ice performance was OK (certainly not great).
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BMW accessories include what looks like REAL chains, not cables. About $325, I think. Circle sells them for about $290. I figure if they are an option from the dealer, there must be just enough clearance for them, IF you put them on correctly. But the listed ones were for 16 and 17 wheels. Not sure if my fenders are worth trying to fit a set from K-Mart or not.
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If it snows i just drive careful or leave it at home.
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In Italy they do a great job clearing the snow. I have only been caught in a snow storm once, and that is why I ask.

If the tires are ok, and I have done a fair share of snow driving in Wisc/Minn, I do not want to give up the performance for the 9-10 months of great driving for a month or two of possible snow.

I have looked at the chains and that is on the short list, but I think I will end up with a "summer" set of rims and then keep the standar rims for winter with a set of all season tires and switch them back out in Feb.

Thanks for the input, I thought these might be the answers, but to hear them from owners makes a difference
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