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      02-06-2008, 12:45 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Shelly Bmw Is A Joke....

Check this out... I was trying to work out a deal with the internet dept at Shelly BMW, in Buena Park, CA... All I was asking for was $1000 above invoice... and they didnt want to do the deal. I told them I had a couple of other dealers that were willing to do the deal but I wanted to purchase it from Shelly... The answer I got, "We can't do it"... Check it out, Brandon:


----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>


Ok that would be great. I would rather you just tell people you got a great deal and not tell them what you paid. Are you open to color choices?

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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:38 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i


Look Axel, can we do it $1000 over invoice plus MACO? There are alot of people that I know that are interested in buying new BMW's... I am a member of the socal bmw forum, e60forum, and e90post.com, and bimmerpost.com. Now do you think if I post our deal on these forums anyone will want to do business with Shelly? Come on now... What is the name of your manager so I may contact him?


Brandon .



----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 4:13:11 PM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i



Brandon I am sorry to lose you business but we have to be at the price below at $48150 plus tax and license. I would like to sell yet another vehicle but can do it the price you have been offered from the other dealers. Thanks and let me know what else we could do for you. Thanks


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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:09 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



So I have a quote from another dealer selling it what I am asking for and I want to purchase it at Shelly, you dont want to compete?


Brandon


----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 12:32:54 PM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

Brandon my apologize, I am not allowed to sell the 335 coupe for this price. It would have to be $48,150 plus fee.




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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:50 AM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



$730 plus tax?... Are you using the money factor of .00245 I am currently with BMW Financial


Brandon


----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 11:45:02 AM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

36 MONTHS

12 K MILES A YEAR

$2000 DRIVES

$730 PLUS TAX



LICENSE FEE $379.75

TAX MONTHLY $61.

ACQ. FEE $625

The $2000 covers all your fees.








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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:30 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



What would my monthly payment be with the following terms? Selling price: $47,650, $2000 total drive off, 36 month lease, 12,000 miles/year... Also what are the total fees? Acq, registration, etc... thanks!!


Brandon



----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 6:45:49 PM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

Including maco.




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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:47 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



So then $47,650 plus maco?


Brandon


----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 4:33:37 PM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

The price I sent you is $1000 over with all the options.




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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:03 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



Would you be able to sell this for $1000 over invoice plus MACO, ETC...


Brandon

----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 3:49:40 PM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

Base 37535




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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:58 AM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



Are you sure? I calculated everything using the attached attachment...


Brandon


----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, February 4, 2008 9:42:26 AM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

Our cost is $47,650




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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:58 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: Re: 2008 BMW 335i



What is the invoice price on this?


Brandon PSP FINANCIAL GROUP INC.



----- Original Message ----
From: Axel Rodriguez <AxelR@shellybmw.com>
To: Brandon <brivera1784@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:23:33 PM
Subject: RE: 2008 BMW 335i

Hello Brandon, thanks for letting us trying to help you out. Here is the information you are looking for.



The MSRP is $50,075…

Your internet special price is $48,650 plus tax and license.



Axel Rodriguez

818-415-0070




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From: Brandon [mailto:brivera1784@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 3:55 PM
To: Axel Rodriguez
Subject: 2008 BMW 335i



Axel,



How are you I got your info from Shelly's website. I am looking to special order a 2008 335i coupe. I would like the following options:



Exterior color: Montego Blue

Interior Color: Coral Red

Automatic transmission

Premium Pkg

Sport Pkg.

Paddle shifters

Comfort Access

Gray poplar wood

Navigation

ipod/usb adapter



Please how much I would be able to purchase this for. Thank You


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      02-06-2008, 12:51 PM   #2
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      02-06-2008, 12:57 PM   #3
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      02-06-2008, 12:59 PM   #5
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Ok that would be great. I would rather you just tell people you got a great deal and not tell them what you paid. Are you open to color choices?
Hmm, I thought Axel said that he agreed to the price, and asks you not to broadcast the fact that he gave you that price. And you're doing just that in this post. Am I missing something? Are you upset with the haggling process?
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i didnt understand the whole email trail... i think some of them are out of order
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      02-06-2008, 01:13 PM   #7
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dude. just buy it from some other dealer that has the pricing you want.

unless the nearest bmw dealer other than shelly is 1 hour away, then i can see what you are trying to get at.

i personally drive 30 minutes to get to another dealership to get my car service cause i like how they take care of you. the dealership i bought the car from is like 10 minutes away from me.. but they are jackasses
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      02-06-2008, 01:16 PM   #8
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      02-06-2008, 01:23 PM   #9
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Wow Alex at shelly cant spell for shiiit.and prolly speaks terrible engrish! hahaha

please point him to this thread to see how we feel about his "sales"

maybe thats why he is Internet sales and not face to face? hahahahaha
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      02-06-2008, 01:29 PM   #11
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      02-06-2008, 01:43 PM   #12
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Wow Alex at shelly cant spell for shiiit.and prolly speaks terrible engrish! hahaha

please point him to this thread to see how we feel about his "sales"

maybe thats why he is Internet sales and not face to face? hahahahaha
Dood... Don't get Axel mixed up with Alex LOL...

Alex is my buddy and Purple All Sector's cousin. Alex also works at Shelly and is a straight up guy. I would buy from him in a heartbeat, knowing that he is probably the most trustworthy CA here...

Axel Rodriguez is who this guy is dealing with...
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^^^ yah, i got them mixed up too... im like, wait alex is Mike's buddy
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wait.. i think alex is someone's cousin here on the board
Mantis,
You are correct. Alex is Purple All Sector's cousin and a good friend of mine.

But this guy is Axel, NOT Alex LOL... Both work at Shelley...
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^^^ yah, i got them mixed up too... im like, wait alex is Mike's buddy
Yup! If it WAS Alex, I would be on the phone with him NOW, saying WTF???
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Mantis,
You are correct. Alex is Purple All Sector's cousin and a good friend of mine.

But this guy is Axel, NOT Alex LOL... Both work at Shelley...
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Yup! If it WAS Alex, I would be on the phone with him NOW, saying WTF???
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Hmm, I thought Axel said that he agreed to the price, and asks you not to broadcast the fact that he gave you that price. And you're doing just that in this post. Am I missing something? Are you upset with the haggling process?
Yeah he said he will do a deal, but with a color choice I do not want...
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That's why they are called stealers.. they want to milk you. After all, there is no othe professional hated moren than lawyers and car salesmen
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Thanks for the recommendation guys. Let me know if I can help you out E92shark =)

I'll take your order or any car I have coming in for $1,000 over invoice + MACO
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Wow... I can barely understand either person's emails. Talk about grammatical errors galore. And you expect to be taken seriously by sending heated, poorly worded demands. to both Axel and the OP.

If another dealer will do that price, and Axel doesn't want to match it, that's his call. You can't force him to. If he called your bluff, well, you can't get pissed at him for that.

And to each their own - but really, Montego and Coral
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Wow... I can barely understand either person's emails. Talk about grammatical errors galore. And you expect to be taken seriously by sending heated, poorly worded demands. to both Axel and the OP.

If another dealer will do that price, and Axel doesn't want to match it, that's his call. You can't force him to. If he called your bluff, well, you can't get pissed at him for that.

And to each their own - but really, Montego and Coral
First of all, what do you not understand. The emails were not written in chinese and did not have grammatical errors... If you do not understand it then maybe you should sit down with an English professor and have it explained to you. It was an informal conversation through email... Not a Thesis... In regards to the heated words, it is called negotiating... And it worked... I got the car for $500 over invoice!! Lastly, cut the shit talking... You do have one correct point, to each their own... The car is being used for SEMA, which usually requires uniqueness... Enough said, f-off
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i think SEMA is going to be more focused on the new e92 M3 more then the 335 e92 now, unless you did some craaaaaaazy stuff, which i hope you do!!!!!
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