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      04-23-2009, 02:09 PM   #67
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Yes I did remove the front spacer. So far I have put about 900 miles on and not had an issue yet.
if the spacer is only 1/8" thick, i can't see how much of a difference in lowering it would make if removed.
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      04-23-2009, 02:10 PM   #68
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if the spacer is only 1/8" thick, i can't see how much of a difference in lowering it would make if removed.

it wont make any visable difference, only thing i think taking it out would do is create more road noise and squeaks becase the top of the strut hat is not perfectly flat to sit in the upper tower, its close but not perfect like the spacer is.
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      04-23-2009, 05:36 PM   #69
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Im interested in going this route instead of coils but how different are these from the H&R springs?
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The h&r's ride about 20% stiffer then the Eibach's, but the h&r's drop the car a 1/4 inch more.
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so the eibachs springs is all we (XI owners) need to get a drop and they're not too stiff????

I just want my front to sit a little lower
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      04-24-2009, 08:18 AM   #72
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Wait, so did you have the 19's before you got the springs, or did you get both at the same time?
-I got em afterwords.
-The stock 17's with RFT's were fine when i installed the springs.
-I "upgraded" to 19's with crappy generals and the ride quality did go down.
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      04-25-2009, 11:21 AM   #73
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-I got em afterwords.
-The stock 17's with RFT's were fine when i installed the springs.
-I "upgraded" to 19's with crappy generals and the ride quality did go down.
hey JP post some pics of your new stance with the 19" M6 rims. Your car in your sig looks sick! Perfect stance with the new 19" man!
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      04-25-2009, 03:08 PM   #74
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I just installed mine, the car looks great, fronts maybe a little lower. I had my 19" wheels with Goodyear F1 Asys on before the springs and it made quite a difference in handling. The ride quality to me is right on the edge of being to harsh, the car feels a lot better and seems to be funner to drive. I might lean towards putting on H&Rs if struts come out for us next summer, but this is just for the drop in the front.
Over all I'm quite happy with the out come. I have driven on all my usual routes and the ride harshness is fine.
I will post some pics when I can.
Thanks JP 335xi, Snowball and Sexye92 for this thread and answering questions of mine.
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      04-25-2009, 11:13 PM   #75
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Just took the plunge and ordered a set of Eibachs from Tire Rack. Should be here mid-week, and hopefully I'll be able to schedule an install for next weekend. Thanks to everyone for the sound advice on these springs. I'll be sure to post feedback once they're installed.
And don't forget to post pics too
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And don't forget to post pics too
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all you guys who installed the Eibach springs need to post pics in this thread.
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      04-26-2009, 04:11 AM   #77
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This may be a newbie question, but would different shocks matched with Eibach springs be a softer ride then just the springs with the stock shocks?
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      04-26-2009, 11:32 AM   #78
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Well, 400lbs didn't seem like much to me at first, but looking at a load capacity of 1058lbs it is significant, that and the fact it is close to 440lbs with the specs from the book.

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OK guys I still plan on installing these when they get here, but now I'm a little paranoid. Some other guy in one of the other spring threads in the xi forum is talking about how we'll lose a bunch of cargo capacity with the Eibachs. I realize the xi is about 220 pounds heavier than the i, but should I be overly concerned about this? Is this possibly why the Eibachs ride softer than the H&R's (because they're more compressed at all times)?

I typically never ride with a lot of people or cargo in my car, but I don't want to have to be worried about this is in the future. Let me know if this is a legit concern or if I'm just being worrisome.

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I need to correct myself! I decided to do it the easy way and subtract the curb weight of a 328xi from the GVWR of an 328i and I got 837lbs, or 221lbs less capacity. Sorry about the initial scare!!! That's about 20%, but not as significant as my original 40%.
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OK guys I still plan on installing these when they get here, but now I'm a little paranoid. Some other guy in one of the other spring threads in the xi forum is talking about how we'll lose a bunch of cargo capacity with the Eibachs. I realize the xi is about 220 pounds heavier than the i, but should I be overly concerned about this? Is this possibly why the Eibachs ride softer than the H&R's (because they're more compressed at all times)?

I typically never ride with a lot of people or cargo in my car, but I don't want to have to be worried about this is in the future. Let me know if this is a legit concern or if I'm just being worrisome.
Someone said the H&R springs for the xi and i were the exact same ones. The box had a different number but on the springs themselves they matched. I will keep searching for that thread.
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      04-26-2009, 02:03 PM   #81
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Oops, sorry about that! I was panicking because I was off 200lbs initially in this and another thread. I should have checked that you have a 335. Luckily there's kind of a pattern in the weight specifications...

Interesting find on the same springs for 328xi and 335xi. 335 guys better confirm with H&R because with lower springs there is more risk of bottoming out.

It's probably safe to say they are alright with a 328xi, but questionable with a 335xi. Hopefully you're right in that they just transfered over 335xi to 328xi, in that case you'd just have extra capacity/harshness for the 328s.

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Well with the 335i vs 335xi sedans, you get the following:

GVWR: 335xi = 4872 vs 335i = 4652
Curb weight: 335xi = 3814 vs 335i = 3593

In either case it's a difference of 220 pounds. We may need an actual tech with specs on these springs to chime in, but my question is whether the Eibach 335i springs are only equipped to handle a 4652 pound GVWR or whether they are rated higher than this. I looked online but couldn't find anything.

H&R is using the same set of springs on both the 328xi and the 335xi, and again you're looking at a weight difference of about 200 pounds. So are those springs weight-rated to handle the 335xi or are they weight-rated somewhere in-between the two cars (or even lower)? My guess is they just got lazy and decided to use the 335xi springs for the 328xi as well, and this is supported by the fact that like Eibach they use different springs for both the 328i and 335i. I'm guessing this makes the H&R springs for a 328xi needlessly harsh, but fortunately for those guys any set of 335i springs should work just fine since their cars weigh less.

I'm starting to believe that the only saving grace of these Eibachs on an xi is that they don't lower the rear as much and more of the car's weight (about 54%) is distributed to the front of the car to begin with. Does anyone else want to chime in? Like I said I don't usually pack my car to the brim, but I can foresee a Vegas road trip in the near future and I don't want to be scraping the whole way out there with 3 or 4 people and luggage.
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Here's the wife's 330xi. Eibach on the front and zsp on the rear. The car sits within a 1/4" all around. The Eibach rear springs are about 5/8" short than the zsp and I didn't want the rear any lower, so I didn't install them. The car's not slammed. Just has a look like the way it should have come from the factory.

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I don't think so. Go to eibach.de for what he/she got. Select PERFORMANCE SUSPENSION. Then look in the upper right corner for the US flag for English. You need to look in the European and Asian application of the PRODUCT LINE. They are listed for 325xi and 330xi.

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Anyone know anything about Eibach part number 2096.140? I came across an Eibach catalog from 2008 on a Google search and they had listed those springs specifically for a 335xi sedan for 2007 and up. I found some website that sells these springs, but it seems a little shady and thought I'd ask around here first. Are these the same springs that one of the guys on here ordered from France?
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I don't think so. Go to eibach.de for what he/she got. Select PERFORMANCE SUSPENSION. Then look in the upper right corner for the US flag for English. You need to look in the European and Asian application of the PRODUCT LINE. They are listed for 325xi and 330xi.
the 325xi and 330xi springs are for a 325 or 330xi its the same thing as using i springs for an xi
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the 325xi and 330xi springs are for a 325 or 330xi its the same thing as using i springs for an xi
Hey is that drop with the 19 a pure eibach drop? You didnt photoshop that pic? It looks perfect! So the eibach for the 335i will give me a drop like that? on my 335xi?
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Hey is that drop with the 19 a pure eibach drop? You didnt photoshop that pic? It looks perfect! So the eibach for the 335i will give me a drop like that? on my 335xi?
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Hey is that drop with the 19 a pure eibach drop? You didnt photoshop that pic? It looks perfect! So the eibach for the 335i will give me a drop like that? on my 335xi?


rule of thumb is if you drive a XI and don't want the "rake look," get Eibach/H&R springs that are "I" specific.
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