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      04-16-2009, 11:03 AM   #23
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I am also running Falken 452's all round. Started off with the fronts due to a screw in one of the Bridgestone RFT's. Now have replaced the back ones also due to bald inside edge on Bridgestone RFT's.

I really like the Falkens and have no problems with them. The fronts seem to be wearing very evenly but its too soon to tell with the rears - if the inside edge is gonna dissapear quickly or not.

As for grip - I find them better than the RFT's and comfort is defo better.

I would not be in tune enough with the car to tell if they are better handling-wise. I drive as hard as I can sometimes and they seem to hold me ok
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If they can handle a 335D then my 320D should be no problem.

Are they wearing any quicker than RFTs
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Too soon to tell I think. I have done about 5k on the fronts and they are not worn much at all yet - prob about 2mm gone. Backs are only on about 1K so no noticable wear yet.
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I've just been to a nearby tyre place to ask them for an estimated time scale of when my rears need doing. They're virtually gone so worth changing sooner rather than later.

When I mentioned sticking Falkens on he claimed he'd put Kumhos on instead. He claimed Falken were a 'budget' tyre whereas the Kumho are 'mid-range' but for the few pounds extra he'd go for the Kumho. Don't really see how he can differentiate between the two, with a few pounds difference surely they're both 'budget' or both 'mid-range'.

Anyway, I spoke to my contact who would stick with the Falkens over the Kumhos, as they are the superior tyre (in their opinion; I should add).

I find it amazing how different tyre fitters can give such different opinions on tyres. They'd managed to convince a 530d (on 19s) driver who was having Kumhos fitted whilst I was there.

Also, I was speaking to a BMW Dealer the other day, and mentioned I was thinking about changing to non-RFT's. He said to be aware that, when you come to part-ex the BMW through a dealer, if they notice, they'll take the price of 4 new RFTs off the trade-in price. Might take my used RFTs home with me (fronts are still fine) to stick back on if I do opt for a trade-in in the future.
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Anyone else running Falkens that can share their experience?
Ran them for 2 weeks before selling my 330i, brilliant IMO. Made the car feel a few hundred kilos lighter too.

4 18" staggered high performance tyres for 406 pounds fitted? They are soft compared to the PS2, but if they only last 10k, its still cheap.

I'll be getting them on my 335i when the time comes. (not long with 300bhp i hope)
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I've just been to a nearby tyre place to ask them for an estimated time scale of when my rears need doing. They're virtually gone so worth changing sooner rather than later.

When I mentioned sticking Falkens on he claimed he'd put Kumhos on instead. He claimed Falken were a 'budget' tyre whereas the Kumho are 'mid-range' but for the few pounds extra he'd go for the Kumho.
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You need to do all 4 of course, don't mix rft and non rft. 4 x FKs is less than 2 x rfts anyway!

Falken are still a 'cheap' brand in many peoples eyes, but the Fk452 are a high performance tyre, make no mistake. Kuhmo are a crock of shite compared, they must be on commission or something?

Try Event Tyres in Trafford, used them for years, skilled, knowledgeable mobile fitters with full size fitting & balancing gear in the vans. A pleasure to deal with.

http://www.event-tyres.co.uk/

Fitted my 330i with 4x FKs in 45 minutes at work (406 fitted / balanced / valves / disposal of old).
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You need to do all 4 of course, don't mix rft and non rft. 4 x FKs is less than 2 x rfts anyway!
I am doing all four. I referred to the rears only as they are the ones which are virtually dead but all four will be changed. I can't bloody wait. Also need rear brakes (got a 'boing' yesterday!!) so am just waiting for a quote on the whole lot.
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yeah i might don the 230's in falkens or sessantas shortly,f*ck the rft's
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I had the falkens or sessantas debate and just got a headache. Opted for the Falkens and I can say & spell them!!!

Lovely alloys those 230s
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Just got my falkens today, they need scrubbing in! Got em from Event Tyres who were great, and at 372 all in for 17" are very well priced too. Ive got 38/42psi at the mo - is this too high for 17"?
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I too am sick to death of the Bridgestones. I will soon need two new rears, so may well go for 4 new Falkens instead. Thanks for all the info on here guys.
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Bit of a heads up here. Spoken to Ant at SpeedReligion as I need new rear brakes too. He's looked into the tyres and apparently the Falken 452s are being phased out and replaced with the 912s. Basically the same tyre, different tread pattern, but meant to last longer. A full set, given forum discount, is 380. Can't say fairer than that. I'm hopefully going to get them fitted next week.
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Unfortunately, they don't seem to make the size of tyre for a rear 230 alloy - 255/30 x19" nor do they appear to do a 265/30 x 19"

Bummer
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Bit of a heads up here. Spoken to Ant at SpeedReligion as I need new rear brakes too. He's looked into the tyres and apparently the Falken 452s are being phased out and replaced with the 912s. Basically the same tyre, different tread pattern, but meant to last longer. A full set, given forum discount, is 380. Can't say fairer than that. I'm hopefully going to get them fitted next week.
380 is a bargain

Roger, you must be running 18" wheels, 19's are not available in the 912 range (done a quick search, I could be wrong though!).

It seems strange that if the 912's are taking over from the 452's they are not available as a 19" tyre
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Unfortunately, they don't seem to make the size of tyre for a rear 230 alloy - 255/30 x19" nor do they appear to do a 265/30 x 19"

Bummer
Alan, you can get them in 265/30/19 (not the 912's though apparently):

http://www.falkentyres.co.uk/product...hFor=&PT_ID=53

If you are thinking of changing all four, why not go a size up, plenty of peeps have

235/35/19 front and 265/30/19 rear.

http://www.falkentyres.co.uk/product...hFor=&PT_ID=53

I'm not suggesting you use that particular website though, shop around
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380 is a bargain

Roger, you must be running 18" wheels, 19's are not available in the 912 range (done a quick search, I could be wrong though!).

It seems strange that if the 912's are taking over from the 452's they are not available as a 19" tyre
Yes, I'm on the standard 18" wheels. Maybe, with them phasing in the new 912s, it'll take a little while for the whole sizing range to be available.
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I don't think the ZE912 is replacing the FK452. It actually replaced the ZE512 a few months ago. According to Falken's own website, the 912 is 'high performance', and is optimised for traction plus comfort, whereas the 452 is 'ultra high performance', and is a more sports oriented tyre. I gather the 912 is supposed to wear slightly better than the 452, at the expense of a slight reduction in wet grip.
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It's all getting very complicated!!!

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of drivers (including me) wouldn't be able to tell the 'slight' differences between the two. I drive my car hard but that's only my opinion, in respect of tyres, I'm probably hardly even pushing them anywhere near their limits.

My priority is to regain some comfort without losing too much handling making sure I don't end up in a bush and so the 912s seem to fit the bill... ...for me.
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It's all getting very complicated!!!

I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of drivers (including me) wouldn't be able to tell the 'slight' differences between the two. I drive my car hard but that's only my opinion, in respect of tyres, I'm probably hardly even pushing them anywhere near their limits.

My priority is to regain some comfort without losing too much handling making sure I don't end up in a bush and so the 912s seem to fit the bill... ...for me.

Don't think you would be disappointed with either to be honest, but the FK-452s have been tried and tested by many BMW drivers here and especially over at BMWLand.
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Quick update on the Falken 912's

Had a drive to York and back to Teesside on Saturday and was able to assess the non run flats v run flats over a mixture of A and B roads. The Falkens really are smooth in comparrison to the Bridgestone Potenza RFT's. In my opinion the BMW M Sport suspension with non runflats really is a joy. Still firm and reassuring but no need to cringe when hitting any sizeable road surface imperfections. I cannot tell if there is any difference with regards to road noise. What have I been missing for the past 2 Years.

The steering is a little sharper and nearer to what it was with the RFT now that the tyres have been inflated to the correct pressures.

One thing I have noticed is that the DSC light flickers a little more under hard acceleration through bends but not necessarily a bad thing. This does suggest however that the Falkens aren't as grippy at the Brigestones. That said the Falkens could probably do with another 100 miles before they are properly scrubbed.

On the down side I had lost a few of the balancing weights and had to get a wheel re-balanced today. At first I thought uh oh dodgy cheap deformed tyre but garage confirmed that wheel was out so has been re balanced and now spot on once again. Issues with the supplier of the sticky weights apparently?

One thing I would check is the rim protection. The 912's don't have much at all but I am pretty sure the 452's do and that would swing it for me. Maybe even cosider 912's one size up if they are available to add a little more rim protection. Remember I odered the 452's but due to a mix up at the garage ended up with 912's beacuse their supplier didn't have 452's in - this may add some weight to the phasing of out debate of the 452's which would seem odd as they are the "flagship tyre" of Falken's.

Overall would I recommed the Falken's - so far definately. Lets see how they ware!
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I put PS2's on my 19" rims and so far I would say the ride is more comfy than the Bridgestones and the grip is superb and I find myself going into corners quicker just to try out how they perform and so far.........impeccably
They did cost just over a grand so around twice the Falkens.

The guy in BMW parts did tell me he had quite a few customers changing to ordinary tyres and that the 225's would sustain less pothole damage.
The OEM tyres transmit the hard bump through the sidewall on RFT's and that does not happen so much with normal tyres.
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