See and Hear GruppeM Intake on video - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 01:11 AM

VIDEO link: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/197160...2006_bmw_330i/

Dyno test and GruppeM Intake were purchased at:
Technik Engineering
13428 Beach Ave
Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
contact: Mike @ 310.306.4060

I had a baseline dyno test done today to account for rear tire diameter changes (slight increase), and to factor out ambient temperature differences from the first dyno test outcome.

This time, baseline max wheel HP = 210.37
After intake mod., max wheel HP = 215.87 (+5.5)

At slightly above 6500 rpm, the before and after mod difference was 8.5 wHP. In fact, HP and torque increased across practically all rpm ranges. At around 2850 rpm, the torque improvement was around 9-10 ft-lbs at the wheel. Differences at the flywheel would certainly be greater.

I hate to admit this, but I was running on near 11,000 miles worth of dirty oil. After today, it's even dirtier. I can't help but wonder how better lubrication may have helped.

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 01:12 AM

Dyno:

Nikki · 08-01-2006, 01:15 AM

Cool

It says the video is being processed but will be available soon. I'll check back later.

NaTuReB0Y · 08-01-2006, 01:21 AM

What's next doc?

carbon fiber hood? LOL...........

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 01:31 AM

Man, I'm having a hard time uploading this 18 MB video.

ADHD · 08-01-2006, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ksfrogman

Man, I'm having a hard time uploading this 18 MB video.

we appreciate your efforts man!

just4kickz · 08-01-2006, 02:17 AM

good vid. how did u put ur camera in ur car? i found this bogen alternative support (suction cup) thing for a cam but i dont feel like paying 140 for something like that.

BMW_E90 · 08-01-2006, 02:44 AM

how do you like it? do you think its worth it? thanks for posting everything up for the fellow e90ers *respect

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

What's next doc?

carbon fiber hood? LOL...........

I know you're kidding, but in all seriousness, as much as I am for saving weight, I'm afraid that switching to a CF hood or trunk would mess up the crumple zone, and make an accident a little more dangerous.

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Originally Posted by just4kickz

good vid. how did u put ur camera in ur car? i found this bogen alternative support (suction cup) thing for a cam but i dont feel like paying 140 for something like that.

Months ago, longtran mentioned I could place the camera between the rear headrest and seat. Well it worked!

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Originally Posted by BMW_E90

how do you like it? do you think its worth it?

It's hard to place a value of worth when it comes to cars and modding. We pay a large amount of money for a small amount of improvement. When I drove the car for the first time after adding the intake, I immediately noticed the change in sound. I have the OEM exhaust, so I was a bit surprised with how it made a noticeably nice, deep droning sound, especially around 2600-3400 rpm. It was as if I were driving within a parking garage without all the echoing. At just above 3000 rpm, I could hear a subtle air sucking sound from the intake. As for my butt dyno, the car seems to be more responsive at any given speed--this is more noticeable when driving "normally" out of the engine's powerband, say at around 2500-3500 rpm. When I downshift (as if to maximize power), then floor the throttle it's hard to tell because the car always makes noise and goes "fast" under those circumstances.

Jason · 08-01-2006, 07:20 AM

Michael, great looking intake and sounds terrific also! Thanks for sharing.

Anyone interested in hearing how it sounds from the outside:
http://fucy626.com/album/gruppem/P1020971.MOV
http://fucy626.com/album/gruppem/P1020972.MOV
http://fucy626.com/album/gruppem/P1020973.MOV

shragon · 08-01-2006, 10:35 AM

wow, sounds really good from inside the car! nice! and your wheels looks awesome while spinning!

longtran · 08-01-2006, 10:59 AM

looks awesome. too bad i dont have sound at work. will check again tonight.

oneshare325 · 08-01-2006, 11:21 AM

Sounds great! Adding this to my want list!!

KL2DC · 08-01-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by oneshare325

Sounds great! Adding this to my want list!!

Look forward to seeing a cake in the shape of a GruppeM Intake

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by KL2DC

Look forward to seeing a cake in the shape of a GruppeM Intake

Everyone would say, "wow, that's a GruppeM cake," right?

KL2DC · 08-01-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ksfrogman

Everyone would say, "wow, that's a GruppeM cake," right?

with this e90post crowd, sure!

diesel007 · 08-01-2006, 10:27 PM

Another informative post Frogster! I removed my intake because the noise was getting annoying. My car feels better with the stock intake lol. The Group M intake resembles the OEM intake just with Carbon fiber box and a better High/flow filter. How many dyno runs did you guys do with the intake and without? I am assuming is was multiple on both and you took the lowest stock numbers/ highest intake numbers.

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 10:33 PM

Hi Ryan,

I had 3 dyno runs before and 3 runs after install. We used the best of 3 on each so the comparison would not be skewed.

I've been watching my gas mileage go from 22 to 21 to 20 to 19 and now 18.9. I suspect my oil has lost some of its viscosity, but I'm going to change it tonight and see what happens. So unlike me to go this long without an oil change, but I've been too busy posting on this forum.

diesel007 · 08-01-2006, 10:37 PM

Did you do a break-in oil change? I need to change my oil B4 the meet.

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel007

Another informative post Frogster! I removed my intake because the noise was getting annoying. My car feels better with the stock intake lol. The Group M intake resembles the OEM intake just with Carbon fiber box and a better High/flow filter. How many dyno runs did you guys do with the intake and without? I am assuming is was multiple on both and you took the lowest stock numbers/ highest intake numbers.

The intake noise is a bit loud at around 2600 to 3200 rpm. A part of me likes this, and a part of me is a little annoyed. Does that make sense? Sounds like the vacuum cleaner motor when it's sucking down on the carpet too well.

The car does seem to go quicker and more easily with only slight throttle pressure than it did before. I talked to Mike at Technik about my butt dyno given the dyno results, and he didn't think I was imagining the difference.

ksfrogman · 08-01-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel007

Did you do a break-in oil change? I need to change my oil B4 the meet.

Hahaha. I shouldn't answer this. I know better.

diesel007 · 08-01-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksfrogman

The intake noise is a bit loud at around 2600 to 3200 rpm. A part of me likes this, and a part of me is a little annoyed. Does that make sense? Sounds like the vacuum cleaner motor when it's sucking down on the carpet too well.

The car does seem to go quicker and more easily with only slight throttle pressure than it did before. I talked to Mike at Technik about my butt dyno given the dyno results, and he didn't think I was imagining the difference.

I liked the 3-4RPM growl at first but I it got on my nerves because the car made too much noise at low speeds. I was running an open filter I would assume the Carbon Fiber box would drown out a bit of that noise and make more tolerable.

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ksfrogman Major General Drives: E90 330i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 6,749 iTrader: (12) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	See and Hear GruppeM Intake on video VIDEO link: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/197160...2006_bmw_330i/ Dyno test and GruppeM Intake were purchased at: Technik Engineering 13428 Beach Ave Marina Del Rey, CA 90292 contact: Mike @ 310.306.4060 I had a baseline dyno test done today to account for rear tire diameter changes (slight increase), and to factor out ambient temperature differences from the first dyno test outcome. This time, baseline max wheel HP = 210.37 After intake mod., max wheel HP = 215.87 (+5.5) At slightly above 6500 rpm, the before and after mod difference was 8.5 wHP. In fact, HP and torque increased across practically all rpm ranges. At around 2850 rpm, the torque improvement was around 9-10 ft-lbs at the wheel. Differences at the flywheel would certainly be greater. I hate to admit this, but I was running on near 11,000 miles worth of dirty oil. After today, it's even dirtier. I can't help but wonder how better lubrication may have helped. __________________ Last edited by ksfrogman; 08-01-2006 at 12:00 PM.
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Jason Administrator Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: IoT Posts: 14,245 iTrader: (0)	Michael, great looking intake and sounds terrific also! Thanks for sharing. Anyone interested in hearing how it sounds from the outside: http://fucy626.com/album/gruppem/P1020971.MOV http://fucy626.com/album/gruppem/P1020972.MOV http://fucy626.com/album/gruppem/P1020973.MOV __________________ Check on the Latest BMW News Become a fan of Bimmerpost Facebook Follow us on Bimmerpost Twitter Subscribe to Bimmerpost Youtube Channel

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diesel007 Not Stock Drives: 325I Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,774 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 325 [0.00]	Another informative post Frogster! I removed my intake because the noise was getting annoying. My car feels better with the stock intake lol. The Group M intake resembles the OEM intake just with Carbon fiber box and a better High/flow filter. How many dyno runs did you guys do with the intake and without? I am assuming is was multiple on both and you took the lowest stock numbers/ highest intake numbers. __________________ *Wallpaper of the month* 1/1/072/1/07

08-01-2006, 10:33 PM	#18
ksfrogman Major General Drives: E90 330i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 6,749 iTrader: (12) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00] 2006 330i [0.00]	Hi Ryan, I had 3 dyno runs before and 3 runs after install. We used the best of 3 on each so the comparison would not be skewed. I've been watching my gas mileage go from 22 to 21 to 20 to 19 and now 18.9. I suspect my oil has lost some of its viscosity, but I'm going to change it tonight and see what happens. So unlike me to go this long without an oil change, but I've been too busy posting on this forum. __________________

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diesel007 Not Stock Drives: 325I Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,774 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 325 [0.00]	Did you do a break-in oil change? I need to change my oil B4 the meet. __________________ *Wallpaper of the month* 1/1/072/1/07

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