How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

matysiak · 04-20-2005, 04:35 AM

How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? I originally ordered the Hi-Fi system and the dealer forgot to add it, so my car is built (A black sapphire 320d with sports pack, lemon interior, PDC front and rear and a sunroof) and it will have the standard professional radio (No idrive) with six speakers.

Now i can cancel my order and get the to give me the hi-fi system in another car, but my deleivery date of 9 May will be moved to End July.

How good is this system? How does it compare to the standard E46 system which i currently have?

Thanks for your feedback

Stephen

BMWAustin · 04-20-2005, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matysiak

How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? I originally ordered the Hi-Fi system and the dealer forgot to add it, so my car is built (A black sapphire 320d with sports pack, lemon interior, PDC front and rear and a sunroof) and it will have the standard professional radio (No idrive) with six speakers.

Now i can cancel my order and get the to give me the hi-fi system in another car, but my deleivery date of 9 May will be moved to End July.

How good is this system? How does it compare to the standard E46 system which i currently have?

Thanks for your feedback

Stephen

I am sure they are nice, but logic 7 I heard is much better. It all depends on you. If you are audiphile you want cancel and reorder or look for one which is 112 status and ask the dealer to change it.

deutschmann59 · 04-20-2005, 10:43 PM

Yeah, I guess it really comes down to whether you're an audiophile or not. That's too bad they messed up the order and you'd have to wait until July. I would hope they'd give you a pretty darn good discount if you re-order it for July. Anyway, if you stick with the stereo you have now, the standard one, one option you have over the IDrive is the MP3 capabilities. You can't play MP3s with the IDrive (unless you get the CD changer, a $500+ accessory), but you can with the factory radio. As far as the Logic 7 though, that's up to you. Personally, I couldn't do with out it. Good luck, though whatever you decide.

Tierfreund · 04-21-2005, 04:36 AM

I´ve test driven the E90 with the Professional radio and the standard audio system. It sucks. The Logic 7 is great but the standard system is lousy. And it´s not easy to upgrade the system with the stock radio (no pre-amp-out)

Reorder and go for the Logic7. It´s well worth the additional waiting time

davinet78 · 07-05-2005, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matysiak

How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? I originally ordered the Hi-Fi system and the dealer forgot to add it, so my car is built (A black sapphire 320d with sports pack, lemon interior, PDC front and rear and a sunroof) and it will have the standard professional radio (No idrive) with six speakers.

Now i can cancel my order and get the to give me the hi-fi system in another car, but my deleivery date of 9 May will be moved to End July.

How good is this system? How does it compare to the standard E46 system which i currently have?

Thanks for your feedback

Stephen

i have ordered the same professional radio and the hifi speakers so i hope they are really good, ill be recieving my car end august so i guess youll have to tell me before

i ordered 320d arktis, beige dacota, 18"162, prof radio, hifi speakers, rear pdc, lumbar support, xenon lights, window chrome trimmings, alarm

mkinley · 07-05-2005, 09:01 AM

I went for the Hi-fi system upgrade and am pleased with the sound. The speakers are upgraded in the rear shelf to include tweeters and in the front you get an additional tweeter over standard system (shown) and an upgraded mid range speaker.

The amp is in the boot under the cd-changer.

shertel · 07-05-2005, 06:12 PM

I hope its better than the Harmon Kardon upgrade in my 330. It is the worst $700 I've ever spent in my life. The actual stereo is great, but the speaker rattle is annoying and passengers are constantly commenting about it. I know there are service bulletins, etc... about this, but I've been in so many friggen times to have this "fixed" that now I just live with it.

BellasBmw · 07-05-2005, 07:23 PM

I have the standard stereo (sat radio, mp3/cd player)- the sound is alright.. On my 02 jetta i had installed a great stereo so im a bit bummed that i dont have that kind of sound on my bmw. Im sure you can enhance it, maybe better speakers?? Anyway- its not the best but its not unbearable.

skimo · 07-05-2005, 08:30 PM

The bass is ok, but the mids and highs are very weak. Thus making the sound somewhat muddy. Playing with the treble/bass controls only changes the curve at the extremeties (high highs and low lows) but the midrange is only lightly affected. And upper -midrange is where your vocals usually stand. In addition, the AC noise is in the mids, so having your AC on high fan speed will greatly deteriorate your sound..... this was my experience with MP3 and Radio, I'll have to try a CD before a final judgement. I am more about clarity and pronounciation of the different frequencies that I am into "loudness", "energy" and "subs"

I am actually into sound production (I operate a home studio as a hobby), and was really hoping that the stock radio would have a somewhat flat frequency response so I can demo my tracks in the car. But i guess i cant do dat anymore

.

I loved the stock radio on the Toyota solara ( i had it as a rental while i was getting my e90). It made all my tracks sound platinum

It sounded like there was some sort of dynamic range compression, this made the sound more "in your face" . Someone said that it shares the same radio/ parts as of the lexus

...maybe thats why.

But again, the stock e90 is still great. I am just really picky.

LEDZEP · 07-05-2005, 08:37 PM

This is probably one of the most subjective subjects, next to colors. If you really really are an audiophile then you'd probably want the Logic7. I love good music in my car, and spend 2+ hrs a day commuting. I have the standard system and it sounds fine. Bottom line: it's up to you. Best of luck either way, and ENJOY.

UncleWede · 07-06-2005, 10:17 AM

The stock radio was probably the biggest disappointment in this car. With all the speakers I expected more robust sound, not the rattling I get when I turn up the volume. I haven't removed any covers to see what type of speakers are really in there, but think that would be my first step in upgrading. Since it's the wife's every day, I just deal with it. Skimo has the description down. While I like some volume, clarity is also my first choice. The only CDs I've heard in it were a Spanish opera singer, so at the lower volume it demanded it sounded OK.

Black325i · 07-06-2005, 02:26 PM

While not "audiophile" quality, the stock system is decent. By that I mean comparable to that of my (old) Acura and Audi. Audiophiles would be well advised to upgrade, however.

For the rest of us, its acceptable.

HRC · 07-06-2005, 02:55 PM

I listened to the Logic 7 system in a 330i recently at the dealer(The radio came on without the key!

) and I wasn't impressed. It sounded good, but the true test for me will be with the car in motion with road noise to overcome and my favorite music turned up a little. I should add, however, that my current car as an aftermarket system by Alpine so it's unfair to compare apples to oranges.

Danny

RichReg · 07-06-2005, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matysiak

How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? I originally ordered the Hi-Fi system and the dealer forgot to add it, so my car is built (A black sapphire 320d with sports pack, lemon interior, PDC front and rear and a sunroof) and it will have the standard professional radio (No idrive) with six speakers.

Now i can cancel my order and get the to give me the hi-fi system in another car, but my deleivery date of 9 May will be moved to End July.

How good is this system? How does it compare to the standard E46 system which i currently have?

Thanks for your feedback

Stephen

As far as compared to the E46 stock system, it is definitely better. The upgrades include more speakers and a sub-woofer.

I personally prefer the Logic 7 in my 330, but there was definitely some advancement in the standard radio department.

E90Mono · 07-06-2005, 03:30 PM

I have the "Professional" stereo. It sounds good with good quality CD's
but JVC system in may last car (Toyota Avalon) was better clarity and
response in mid-range and tweeters. Bass is a bit better in the BMW with the two subs under the seats. I didn't think the logic7 was actually worth the $1,000+ price. Does anyone know who actually manufactures the stereo and speakers for the "Professional" model sound system?

HRC · 07-06-2005, 05:14 PM

I hear it's Harman Karden?

Danny

Barry626 · 07-07-2005, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by sharp1183

As far as the Logic 7 though, that's up to you. Personally, I couldn't do with out it.

Can u say where it should be set?
Mine is on off & I changed it to Theater?

jambul · 07-07-2005, 08:34 AM

Alpines makes the hifi for bmw but cannot understand why bmw hifi is not great

04-20-2005, 04:35 AM	#1
matysiak Enlisted Member Drives: Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 25 iTrader: (0)	How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? How good is the standard professional radio on the E90? I originally ordered the Hi-Fi system and the dealer forgot to add it, so my car is built (A black sapphire 320d with sports pack, lemon interior, PDC front and rear and a sunroof) and it will have the standard professional radio (No idrive) with six speakers. Now i can cancel my order and get the to give me the hi-fi system in another car, but my deleivery date of 9 May will be moved to End July. How good is this system? How does it compare to the standard E46 system which i currently have? Thanks for your feedback Stephen

07-05-2005, 09:01 AM	#6
mkinley Member Drives: BMW E90 320d SE Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Lakes, England Posts: 17 iTrader: (0)	Photo of Hi-fi speaker (front) I went for the Hi-fi system upgrade and am pleased with the sound. The speakers are upgraded in the rear shelf to include tweeters and in the front you get an additional tweeter over standard system (shown) and an upgraded mid range speaker. The amp is in the boot under the cd-changer. Attached Images

07-05-2005, 06:12 PM	#7
shertel Member Drives: 2002 330ci Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	BMW 3 series stereo I hope its better than the Harmon Kardon upgrade in my 330. It is the worst $700 I've ever spent in my life. The actual stereo is great, but the speaker rattle is annoying and passengers are constantly commenting about it. I know there are service bulletins, etc... about this, but I've been in so many friggen times to have this "fixed" that now I just live with it.

07-05-2005, 07:23 PM	#8
BellasBmw If love is the answer,please rephrase the question Drives: Tit Silver 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego, Ca Posts: 1,578 iTrader: (1) View BellasBmw's Garage	I have the standard stereo (sat radio, mp3/cd player)- the sound is alright.. On my 02 jetta i had installed a great stereo so im a bit bummed that i dont have that kind of sound on my bmw. Im sure you can enhance it, maybe better speakers?? Anyway- its not the best but its not unbearable. __________________ ~~BellasBmw~~ Proud mama to 325i/TiAg/Black lette/Pwr seats/Sirius/Sport/Walnut/Step/Xenons/Chrome exhaust/20% tint

07-06-2005, 02:55 PM	#13
HRC Major General Drives: E90 330i MT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 7,234 iTrader: (6) View HRC's Garage	I listened to the Logic 7 system in a 330i recently at the dealer(The radio came on without the key! ) and I wasn't impressed. It sounded good, but the true test for me will be with the car in motion with road noise to overcome and my favorite music turned up a little. I should add, however, that my current car as an aftermarket system by Alpine so it's unfair to compare apples to oranges. Danny __________________ Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Knob/Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" Volk CE28Ns w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers

04-20-2005, 10:43 PM	#3
deutschmann59 Captain Drives: 2006 325i Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: e90post.com Posts: 755 iTrader: (0)	Yeah, I guess it really comes down to whether you're an audiophile or not. That's too bad they messed up the order and you'd have to wait until July. I would hope they'd give you a pretty darn good discount if you re-order it for July. Anyway, if you stick with the stereo you have now, the standard one, one option you have over the IDrive is the MP3 capabilities. You can't play MP3s with the IDrive (unless you get the CD changer, a $500+ accessory), but you can with the factory radio. As far as the Logic 7 though, that's up to you. Personally, I couldn't do with out it. Good luck, though whatever you decide.

04-21-2005, 04:36 AM	#4
Tierfreund Major Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 1,003 iTrader: (0)	I´ve test driven the E90 with the Professional radio and the standard audio system. It sucks. The Logic 7 is great but the standard system is lousy. And it´s not easy to upgrade the system with the stock radio (no pre-amp-out) Reorder and go for the Logic7. It´s well worth the additional waiting time

07-05-2005, 08:30 PM	#9
skimo First Lieutenant Drives: 07 335i Dinan II Join Date: May 2005 Location: Austin Texas !! Posts: 398 iTrader: (1)	The bass is ok, but the mids and highs are very weak. Thus making the sound somewhat muddy. Playing with the treble/bass controls only changes the curve at the extremeties (high highs and low lows) but the midrange is only lightly affected. And upper -midrange is where your vocals usually stand. In addition, the AC noise is in the mids, so having your AC on high fan speed will greatly deteriorate your sound..... this was my experience with MP3 and Radio, I'll have to try a CD before a final judgement. I am more about clarity and pronounciation of the different frequencies that I am into "loudness", "energy" and "subs" I am actually into sound production (I operate a home studio as a hobby), and was really hoping that the stock radio would have a somewhat flat frequency response so I can demo my tracks in the car. But i guess i cant do dat anymore . I loved the stock radio on the Toyota solara ( i had it as a rental while i was getting my e90). It made all my tracks sound platinum It sounded like there was some sort of dynamic range compression, this made the sound more "in your face" . Someone said that it shares the same radio/ parts as of the lexus ...maybe thats why. But again, the stock e90 is still great. I am just really picky.

07-05-2005, 08:37 PM	#10
LEDZEP Lieutenant General Drives: E90 & E91 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 Posts: 11,205 iTrader: (0) View LEDZEP's Garage	This is probably one of the most subjective subjects, next to colors. If you really really are an audiophile then you'd probably want the Logic7. I love good music in my car, and spend 2+ hrs a day commuting. I have the standard system and it sounds fine. Bottom line: it's up to you. Best of luck either way, and ENJOY.

07-06-2005, 10:17 AM	#11
UncleWede Long Time Admirer, First Time Owner Drives: E90 325i Arctic Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Oxnard, CA Posts: 1,889 iTrader: (0)	The stock radio was probably the biggest disappointment in this car. With all the speakers I expected more robust sound, not the rattling I get when I turn up the volume. I haven't removed any covers to see what type of speakers are really in there, but think that would be my first step in upgrading. Since it's the wife's every day, I just deal with it. Skimo has the description down. While I like some volume, clarity is also my first choice. The only CDs I've heard in it were a Spanish opera singer, so at the lower volume it demanded it sounded OK.

07-06-2005, 02:26 PM	#12
Black325i '06 325i / Jet Black / 6sp manual / Sports Package / Active Steering / Adap Lights Drives: 2006 E90 325i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 118 iTrader: (0)	While not "audiophile" quality, the stock system is decent. By that I mean comparable to that of my (old) Acura and Audi. Audiophiles would be well advised to upgrade, however. For the rest of us, its acceptable.

07-06-2005, 03:30 PM	#15
E90Mono Enlisted Member Drives: Monaco Blue 325i Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charleston, S.C. USA Posts: 24 iTrader: (0)	I have the "Professional" stereo. It sounds good with good quality CD's but JVC system in may last car (Toyota Avalon) was better clarity and response in mid-range and tweeters. Bass is a bit better in the BMW with the two subs under the seats. I didn't think the logic7 was actually worth the $1,000+ price. Does anyone know who actually manufactures the stereo and speakers for the "Professional" model sound system?

07-06-2005, 05:14 PM	#16
HRC Major General Drives: E90 330i MT Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Walnut Creek, CA Posts: 7,234 iTrader: (6) View HRC's Garage	I hear it's Harman Karden? Danny __________________ Arctic/Blk Leather/Alum.Trim/MT/ZSP/Sunshades/Blk Lines/M3 Knob/Performance Wheel/M-E-Brake Handle/Euro Fog Switch/Koni Yellows/H&R Sport Springs/19" Volk CE28Ns w/PS2 Tires/M-Tech Body Kit/Bimmian Interior Bulbs/OEM Eye Glass Tray/SSK/Split Armrest/OEM Dual Rear Power Outlets/Rear Ashtray Delete/OEM Alum. Pedals/Osram 6000K/Brex Rings/LED Side Markers

07-07-2005, 08:34 AM	#18
jambul New Member Drives: 320i Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: singapore Posts: 1 iTrader: (0)	Alpines makes the hifi for bmw but cannot understand why bmw hifi is not great