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      11-26-2015, 03:54 AM   #1
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Talking Sneak Peek - NEW HEXON RR600's

I was told not to release any information about the new RR600's which are replacing the current RR550's until later this week... butttttttt.

I have a lucky customers car we just finished installing the new RR600 turbos in. Not even available yet, and we have a set.

My impression, the new RR600 has some super awesome upgrades and they spool super quick. Currently running them on 92 oct e10. Customer is setup for E85 @ 24 psi with TFT Intake, Stage 3 pump and Port Injection, but we also wanted to dial in a custom pump map to ensure he has something to run even if he can't find an E85 station.

Also, there was no chance to get the car on the dyno with the holiday, so virtual dyno will have to do for now. Car peaks at only 18 psi, but it's a monster.... More information to come...

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Hexon 2015 Black Friday Week PART I
We announce you the HEXON - BMW N54 RR600 Hybrid 2
**RR600 will replaced the current RR550s**
$2350 Retail Price
$2115 Introductory Sales Price from Nov. 27th to Dec. 4th
-NEW Larger Diameter Turbine Wheel for increased flow.
(Trim:75 increased by 5 over Rev1)
-NEW Larger Turbo Shaft, NEW Upgraded Thrust with 100% more surface area.
-NEW Larger Piston Ring, New Larger Bearings for increased longevity.
-Re-Machined Original N54 CHAR for True Stock Fitment with OEM Coolant Lines, OEM Oil Lines.
*Upgrades do not require a custom holding plate like other hybrid turbos on the market today.
-NEW WG Assembly (Rev B) with riveted flapper assembly and machined clevis rod ends for increased quality control and longevity, more stable WGDC.
-New Option: Ceramic Coating - Reduces Engine Bay Heat
Plus we will offer Dyno/Logs Result Incentive Bonus
(date after receiving the turbo)
2 Weeks $150
3 Weeks $100
4 Weeks+ $75
The ETA will be 10-15 days.








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      11-26-2015, 04:37 AM   #2
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Up on their FB page, but not their site yet, just came to post it lol

Wayne hasn't responded yet, are the 600s a 1.75" inlet?

I know what's coming next week, but not sure if that's more than I want and the initial price on the these is a frigging steal Waiting for them to go on the site while I decide to order or wait and see what next week brings.

Edit: missed the 92 octane posted duh
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How does these wheels comapre in size to the VTs2 and RBs ?
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Inlet size on these?
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How accurate is the VD in 3rd gear?
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Pretty accurate if everything is setup correctly and there is no wheelspin. I'd like to see the 92 only logs/VD.

Wayne said 1.75 on the inlet BTW.
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Is that VD, the e85 map or 92 octane?
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What's different/new in the RR600 over the 550?
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I updated the main post with more information...
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Is that VD, the e85 map or 92 octane?
92 Oct
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Are they also coming out with rr650's?
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Damn, that is good power!
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Are they also coming out with rr650's?
Wayne hasn't labeled the new Stage 2+ turbos as RR650's yet. We want to see what they make on the dyno first. More than likely they will be RR700's considering the smaller turbos are able to make 600+ with ease and the Stage 2+ turbos will have larger turbine, larger compressor, and larger inlet.
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Pretty accurate if everything is setup correctly and there is no wheelspin. I'd like to see the 92 only logs/VD.

Wayne said 1.75 on the inlet BTW.
Pulled from the FB post "It's 1.75 with the same 15T compressor from 550s"
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This is very interesting. Pure has not released the wheel sizes they use, so it leaves a lot of people wondering if these can be similarly compared. According to wayne on fb, the turbines of these rr600s are still not as large as the ones used by rb, but because they are 9 blades instead of 11 or 12 blades, should flow around the same. the thought wondering around in my mind, is the td03 chra they use. its the oem chra, whereas rb claims to use a full td04 chra adapted to fit the oem coolant/oil lines. no idea which would be better, or if they both are pretty much similar since the oem td03 hexon uses is working with td04 internals lol.
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This is very interesting. Pure has not released the wheel sizes they use, so it leaves a lot of people wondering if these can be similarly compared. According to wayne on fb, the turbines of these rr600s are still not as large as the ones used by rb, but because they are 9 blades instead of 11 or 12 blades, should flow around the same. the thought wondering around in my mind, is the td03 chra they use. its the oem chra, whereas rb claims to use a full td04 chra adapted to fit the oem coolant/oil lines. no idea which would be better, or if they both are pretty much similar since the oem td03 hexon uses is working with td04 internals lol.
Here is Hexon's notes for this particular question which I think also applied to the previous 550 and perhaps now the 600, but Wayne will have to clarify

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Why not using TD04 CHRA and larger turbine ?
Hexon RR500 turbine wheel is slightly smaller than others’ stage 2 kit ,but we really liked the profile and design the this wheel had. In fact the cost of doing the TD04 CHRA upgrade and using larger turbine really have no significant power difference between hexon’s and others’ stage 2 plus slower turbo spool on larger turbine.

Secondly to keep the original CHRA and a minimal machining process on the housing diminish the chance of failures. Using the original TD03 CHRA we have neither any return nor report of wheels damage more than 200+ units that we have sold. This turbo will be capable doing any boost level up to 21psi. Thanks to the great wheel balancing job done by our technician. That is why we chose to stick with 44mm and have it modified to fit into a wider powerband from low end to high end. Therefore we offer a reasonable price on our turbo and decide not to match-up with the others stg2 turbine setup

All the processing on the RR500 is done in-house so, we do not subcontract out to other shops. Our wheel balancing machine calibrated up to 230,000 RPM this process is one of our company specialties and, we have been served more than 100 hundreds companies purchasing the wheel assembly with us.
http://www.hexonautowerks.com/produc...?pg=&PdSearch=

The site is currently being updated so the quote might be obsolete for most of the other stuff. Again Wayne will have to confirm.
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I like their thinking. Does Pure use original TD03 CHRA's also?
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Wayne hasn't labeled the new Stage 2+ turbos as RR650's yet. We want to see what they make on the dyno first. More than likely they will be RR700's considering the smaller turbos are able to make 600+ with ease and the Stage 2+ turbos will have larger turbine, larger compressor, and larger inlet.
Is he still planning on a set with a larger exhaust and compressor housing?
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Is he still planning on a set with a larger exhaust and compressor housing?
Yes, the stage 3 turbos have been in development for a long time now. Some details to work out, but they are next after we get the new Stage 2+ turbos released.
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Yes, the stage 3 turbos have been in development for a long time now. Some details to work out, but they are next after we get the new Stage 2+ turbos released.
What stage are the RR600's considered?
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Outstanding! Well done Wedge and Hexon!!!
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