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      05-28-2009, 07:44 AM   #89
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I've been running this new map for a few days now. I have had no issues at all, even during adaptation. I've always thought of my 335 as 'quick' but not 'really damn fast' relative to other cars I've been lucky enough to drive. This map is the first one that actually caught me off guard with how fast the boost hit and made me pucker up a bit! Very smooth at all points and transitions with no hiccups or dips at all.

My car is full stage 3 except for my catted rr dp's.

Needless to say, I'm really happy with this map . Sorry, no logs or hard data, just 'feelings'. Also, I have not seen more than 15.8 lbs on my gauge. Previous map I would occasionally see 16 - 16.3. Nice work Shiv!
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      05-28-2009, 10:32 AM   #90
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I don't have any hard data either but this latest map is very smooth.

Seems to come on a bit sooner than before , and solid steady pull till time to shift.

Things have been kinda quite lately....makes me wonder whats to come next??

I bet it's something BIG....
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      05-28-2009, 10:49 AM   #91
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I haven't tried it at 85% yet. I'm on piss 91oct here so I'm skeptical. I used to have the 2-19 maps on my Rev I procede, but recently had to lower the default from 90% down to 85% because the gas around here recently has seemed to not be as good as quality as it was once before, hence why I started out at 80% with the beta maps. In other words I've been getting cylinder glows (knock). Funny thing is I only would get knock in 4th gear at around 4,000rpm's. Sometimes it would be cylinder 5 sometimes cylinder 4, but an easy erase with the BT tool and I'm good to go. The only thing I can think of is the gas quality is becoming poor in my area. Most stations have dropped 91oct and have moved down to 90oct. I have 17k miles on her, so I may be due for some new plugs, but I rather not have to replace them if it is just my shitty gas.
Did you ever read an "aprooved" somewhere? did you just try it and it works on a rev1? (except what you wrote about knock) what FW did you load to use with?
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      05-28-2009, 10:53 AM   #92
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Did you ever read an "aprooved" somewhere? did you just try it and it works on a rev1? (except what you wrote about knock) what FW did you load to use with?
The first post says it can be used with Rev 2 or Rev 1. I don't think Shiv would have sent it to me if it wasn't going to work. I used the firmware that was supplied with the beta maps.

FWIW, the knock was using 2-19 maps at 90%. This was also in conjunction with my shitty 91oct gas I explained about eariler. I just lowered the UT to 85% and all was golden on the previous 2-19.

I'm still on the new beta maps and the car runs like a freight train. I even have the ticket to prove it, sadly.
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      05-28-2009, 11:23 AM   #93
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      05-28-2009, 11:27 AM   #94
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I haven't tried it at 85% yet. I'm on piss 91oct here so I'm skeptical. I used to have the 2-19 maps on my Rev I procede, but recently had to lower the default from 90% down to 85% because the gas around here recently has seemed to not be as good as quality as it was once before, hence why I started out at 80% with the beta maps. In other words I've been getting cylinder glows (knock). Funny thing is I only would get knock in 4th gear at around 4,000rpm's. Sometimes it would be cylinder 5 sometimes cylinder 4, but an easy erase with the BT tool and I'm good to go. The only thing I can think of is the gas quality is becoming poor in my area. Most stations have dropped 91oct and have moved down to 90oct. I have 17k miles on her, so I may be due for some new plugs, but I rather not have to replace them if it is just my shitty gas.
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That's very possible given your high altitude conditions and the fact that most gas stations up there tend to run lower octane since they assume that the high altitude means less compression/cylinder pressure. Unfortunately, this isn't the case with turbo cars as we all know. So, for now, the only solution for you would be to reduce UT until octane or conditions improve. The PROcede will do this automatically very soon. But for now, you'll just need to do it manually. You can try changing plugs as well but, by the sounds of it, it looks like an octane issue.

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      05-28-2009, 11:41 AM   #95
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That's very possible given your high altitude conditions and the fact that most gas stations up there tend to run lower octane since they assume that the high altitude means less compression/cylinder pressure. Unfortunately, this isn't the case with turbo cars as we all know. So, for now, the only solution for you would be to reduce UT until octane or conditions improve. The PROcede will do this automatically very soon. But for now, you'll just need to do it manually. You can try changing plugs as well but, by the sounds of it, it looks like an octane issue.

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Lower octane gas is the only thing available at higher altitudes. Here in the Albuquerque area, 90 octane is the highest available with a rare station listing 91 octane. Regular is only 86 to 87. This is why an integrated meth/water system is so interesting.
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Lower octane gas is the only thing available at higher altitudes. Here in the Albuquerque area, 90 octane is the highest available with a rare station listing 91 octane. Regular is only 86 to 87. This is why an integrated meth/water system is so interesting.
The meth is coming

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      05-28-2009, 11:55 AM   #97
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Humtek,
That's very possible given your high altitude conditions and the fact that most gas stations up there tend to run lower octane since they assume that the high altitude means less compression/cylinder pressure. Unfortunately, this isn't the case with turbo cars as we all know. So, for now, the only solution for you would be to reduce UT until octane or conditions improve. The PROcede will do this automatically very soon. But for now, you'll just need to do it manually. You can try changing plugs as well but, by the sounds of it, it looks like an octane issue.

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I know it isn't good to run them all the time, but what about using octane boosters? Could that help out some of us high altitude people until we can integrate meth? I'm assuming yes, and I wouldn't want to use it all the time, but it is a good alternative until conditions get better. Thanks for the input buddy.

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Lower octane gas is the only thing available at higher altitudes. Here in the Albuquerque area, 90 octane is the highest available with a rare station listing 91 octane. Regular is only 86 to 87. This is why an integrated meth/water system is so interesting.
That can't be true. I live a bit north, but when I do go down to ABQ I can find 91oct all over the place. It has been a little while since I've gone down, but it may be possible they downgraded their octane like they have up here.
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      05-28-2009, 11:58 AM   #98
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And please these maps are NOT for those with mild mods or stock set-up. I'll have something for you guys later in the week to test. First things first.

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Do you have something ready or you are still working on it?

Thanks!
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      05-28-2009, 12:43 PM   #99
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hey Shiv, quick question...

After updating to this latest 114 firmware with the 5-22 beta map...
Would it be fine to run the older 5-08 map on the 114 latest firmware or do i need to install back the 111 firmware?

I am asking because I am hitting up an HPDE tomorrow and may wanna try the older 5-08 map on the track also
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      05-28-2009, 12:48 PM   #100
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hey Shiv, quick question...

After updating to this latest 114 firmware with the 5-22 beta map...
Would it be fine to run the older 5-08 map on the 114 latest firmware or do i need to install back the 111 firmware?

I am asking because I am hitting up an HPDE tomorrow and may wanna try the older 5-08 map on the track also
In this particular case, you'll need to put in the old firmware if you want to run the old maps. Otherwise, you will make stock boost

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1 more question for this new beta map...

Reducing the UT to 75% from default 85% will still keep the boost under 16 psi?
Reason I am asking is incase the boost spikes/creeps over 16psi in my 30 minutes track session, i would rather keep boost around 14psi if possible
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1 more question for this new beta map...

Reducing the UT to 75% from default 85% will still keep the boost under 16 psi?
Reason I am asking is incase the boost spikes/creeps over 16psi in my 30 minutes track session, i would rather keep boost around 14psi if possible
Boost shouldn't creep. In fact, boost may even drop towards the end of the session if IATs get higher than comfortable. But yes, drop the UT if you want to keep boost down. And that is a very good idea if you are talking about hot lapping your car. Especially in the summer. Also a very good idea to mix some unleaded race gas (50/50) in your tank.

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      05-28-2009, 01:04 PM   #103
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Awesome stuff, my friend is running SSTT on an otherwise stock car and once the new FMIC and DCI is installed, I think the car will be ready for an upgrade to either JB3 or PROcede canbus. The fact that the V3 canbus can clear codes and allow laptop plug/play/tuning I think is starting to grow on me to justify the price. Plus if I am not mistaken V3 can simulate 02's without having to buy sims right? That seems to help make up the price as well, not having to buy all the add-ons.

I think both tunes are performing about the same. I assume both are about the same to install/uninstall too (PnP versions). I just can't see adding anything with that much boost on the stock FMIC, it really can't even keep up with the SSTT which was proven on a dyno the other day...
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Awesome stuff, my friend is running SSTT on an otherwise stock car and once the new FMIC and DCI is installed, I think the car will be ready for an upgrade to either JB3 or PROcede canbus. The fact that the V3 canbus can clear codes and allow laptop plug/play/tuning I think is starting to grow on me to justify the price. Plus if I am not mistaken V3 can simulate 02's without having to buy sims right? That seems to help make up the price as well, not having to buy all the add-ons.

I think both tunes are performing about the same. I assume both are about the same to install/uninstall too (PnP versions). I just can't see adding anything with that much boost on the stock FMIC, it really can't even keep up with the SSTT which was proven on a dyno the other day...
Yep... no need for o2 sim with the PROcede. Or a BT tool if all you care about is reading/clearing codes. And DME parameter logging is coming soon as well.

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      05-29-2009, 03:02 AM   #105
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Yep... no need for o2 sim with the PROcede. Or a BT tool if all you care about is reading/clearing codes. And DME parameter logging is coming soon as well.

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Hey Shiv, did you get my email? I'm trying to get the new maps.

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Hey Shiv, did you get my email? I'm trying to get the new maps.

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I believe the new maps are already out...you can download from here: http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...read.php?t=990
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I believe the new maps are already out...you can download from here: http://www.vishnutuningforum.com/for...read.php?t=990
Hahaha, damn. Thanks Soni. I've had a busy week
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I loaded the new maps yesterday (BMW 135i, Procede Rev II non-CANbus, BT tool, Catless DP's, Maddad Axelback, still have factory midpipe) and they are definitely different than the stock maps. Much smoother without that crazy turbo kick above 3500rpm in 3rd gear....I will have to find a place to test them out in the higher gears. Thx for the hard work Shiv!
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