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      05-27-2009, 12:39 PM   #1
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Need Help with Orbital/Pads

Hello Everyone!!

I want to purchase an orbital, however I have never used one in my life. I am afraid of burning the paint. However, I have done some research online and need your advice. The Porter Cable 7424 Dual-Action Car Polisher comes very highly recommended. However, I think it is being discontinued as per Grainger's website (http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4YU14). I went on PC's site and saw two different models (http://www.deltaportercable.com/Prod...80&Prod2=11081) does anyone know the difference? They seem to be the identical machine in relation to specifications.

If I was to purchase one of these machines, what kinds of pads would I want to purchase as well? I use all of Zaino's polishes but I may look into other vendors. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

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      05-27-2009, 12:45 PM   #2
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I use Zaino and it's not really a polish but a sealant. ZAIO and ZPC do not really offer any cut for paint correction. It's a great sealant.
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looks like the two PCs come with different attachments and they're essentially the same thing. I would get the PC kit from DI as zaxjax suggested. you can get a bunch of different pads from DI, just specify which ones you want. as for cutting/paint correction, most people on here use menzerna. i use the poorboys line and it works fine for me because you can use it in the sun. i dont have a garage although i do my detailing in the shade.
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here is the kit I would recommend:

The Uber Menzerna PO203 and PO85RD kit

the base PC Kit

you probably need a wax to go with that.

Swissvax Blau Weiss
Swissvax Glacier
or Lusso Oro

for your last step.
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For biginner, i'll recommand "Griot's Garage" Random Orbital with orange and red pad. The pads are from lake country but with Griot's name.

Can't never go wrong.
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I'm confused by all of this haha..what do the different colors on the pads mean?
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I'm confused by all of this haha..what do the different colors on the pads mean?
The different colors of pads differentiate their hardness and/or ability to "cut" the paint. You attempt to pair different waxes, sealants, glazes and compounds with the corresponding pads to achieve the results you want.

Click for a bigger version of the below chart:

http://www.auto-geek.net/lakecountrycomparisonchart.htm

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different pads equal different cuts and finishing levels.

our uber pad system is easy it has the step printed on the back of the pad.

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Great! Could I use Zaino with a random orbital or not really? What waxes do people use with their orbital's?
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most people will use liquids and sealants with a black pad with their orbitals.

as far as zaino I believe 9 can be used as well as a couple of their polishes.

i don't know the full line up its been years since I have touched the stuff.
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Great! Could I use Zaino with a random orbital or not really? What waxes do people use with their orbital's?
I apply sealant with a blue pad on setting 3 on a PC. I apply soft wax by hand with a red pad.
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