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      08-14-2006, 10:31 AM   #1
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How to Destroy America

We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal -was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that, "all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

"First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lam went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal – that there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States a 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Steward said in the Atlantic Monthly recently, "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lam said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

“My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other – that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell "E. Pluribus Unum" – From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate.

Having made America a bilingual, bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America--take note of California and other states--to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance is strength.”

Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation, and the future of this great democracy, is in deep trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.
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dude seriously whats up with you and immigration problem? its like a fetish or somethin man

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Interesting post, however, i cant get the mental image out of my head that when you walk around and hear some spanish, you immediately get all bent outta shape. But, lol, thats just me.
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someone please summarize it for me...........

too long to read..........
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A somewhat extreme idea IMO.

But one point .... words like racist and xenophobic do NOT stifle debate.

It is perfectly possible to discuss, debate, rule and enforce immigration policy without being either xenophobic and racist.

Unfortunately a lot of people who have difficulty with immigration do seem to BE racist and xenophobic which I think causes the problem.

As a simple rule:

1. It is wrong to generalise against people because of their race. When that generalisation is based on a derogatory or damaging stereotype it is racism.

2. It is wrong to fear and distrust someone because they are not like you. This is a positon based on ignorance and is xenophobic.

It is not wrong to want to control immigration and shape the future of the society you live in - that is called democracy.
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dude seriously whats up with you and immigration problem? its like a fetish or somethin man

Dude, since you've acknowledged we do have an "immigration problem," and you seem to think there is something wrong with me being concerned about it, who should be concerned?

Me?

You?

Anyone?

No one?

Who?
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A somewhat extreme idea IMO.
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But one point .... words like racist and xenophobic do NOT stifle debate.
They do over here in the United States. Anytime Illegal Immigration is discussed here those that support open borders call anyone who oppose it racists.

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It is perfectly possible to discuss, debate, rule and enforce immigration policy without being either xenophobic and racist.
Agreed.

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Unfortunately a lot of people who have difficulty with immigration do seem to BE racist and xenophobic which I think causes the problem.
I think the key word here is "seem." What I see and hear is most folks immediately think a person is a racist if they are against open borders.

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As a simple rule:
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1. It is wrong to generalise against people because of their race. When that generalisation is based on a derogatory or damaging stereotype it is racism.
Agreed.

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2. It is wrong to fear and distrust someone because they are not like you. This is a positon based on ignorance and is xenophobic.
Agreed.

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It is not wrong to want to control immigration and shape the future of the society you live in - that is called democracy.
Agreed. However, here in Southern California it is called racism. I'm not making this up.

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...former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. "...Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."...
He's petty ignorant. Really ignorant.
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I'm not worried about the people that come to this country and want to work.

I'm more worried about the lazy ignorant criminals that were born in our country and refuse to work.
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Dude, since you've acknowledged we do have an "immigration problem," and you seem to think there is something wrong with me being concerned about it, who should be concerned?

Me?

You?

Anyone?

No one?

Who?
only the government
unless you can track down every illegal immigrant here in the states and send them back
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He's petty ignorant. Really ignorant.

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...Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."...

ed328ci,

You've miss-quoted me above. I did not post that.

Watch your post editing please.
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At last, something enjoyable about this thread!

Thanks, Kenny!
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You've miss-quoted me above. I did not post that.

Watch your post editing please.
I am not quoting you, but the gentleman from CO.
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I am not quoting you, but the gentleman from CO.
Ed, If you'll schroll up and look, you'll see you have somehow indicated that I'm the one quoted.

Take a look.
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Ed, If you'll schroll up and look, you'll see you have somehow indicated that I'm the one quoted.

Take a look.
Fixed.
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