Question about where else the 3.0 turbo will go - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

epiphone3 · 08-18-2006, 09:46 AM

Hey guys,

My dad has been looking at upgrading his E46 330i ever since I took home my E90 323i in January.

He is especially interested in the 335i and the M3 but also would be extremely interested by a 5-series with the new 3.0 liter twin-turbo engine from the 335i... i.e. a 535i.

Does anybody have any info as to the availability of the 535i any time soon?

Thanks!

EK_335i · 08-18-2006, 10:45 AM

Since the 5 series 07s came out in April 06 I don't see any changes anytime soon. Any engine and badge changes will probably happen for 08 in a year from now.

Ed

NFS · 08-18-2006, 10:52 AM

It won't be that long.

There is talk that the 530i will be updated with the new direct injection engine this year.

And already e60 customers are clamouring for a 535d that uses the aluminium block installed in the 335d.

I think there will be a new 535d and a 535i by March 07. I also think the 525d will be replaced with the 3.0l detuned engine from the 325d.

For more rumours look here:

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=26158&st=0

BMW320i · 08-18-2006, 03:31 PM

wow, no more 530i?? my father has one

damn engines in the 5er r upgraded rapidly, 540i, 550 and now the 535i !

off-topic, the 3.0 twin turbo will also go 2 the 1er, the new 135ti

check WCF

JO3 · 08-18-2006, 03:54 PM

If the turbo engine ever found its way into a Z4 coupe, I may crazy go nuts.

stressdoc · 08-19-2006, 12:38 AM

The release of the DI N53 is the stickler here. Not much point to the bi-turbo in the E60 if they can put the N53 in the 530.

NFS · 08-21-2006, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stressdoc

The release of the DI N53 is the stickler here. Not much point to the bi-turbo in the E60 if they can put the N53 in the 530.

Well the DI engine is a definite for the e60 and in the UK at least the 535i will be a big deal - although it will effectively kill the 540i and make the 550i even more of an 'exotic' decision.

ALPINE6SPD · 08-21-2006, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JO3

If the turbo engine ever found its way into a Z4 coupe, I may crazy go nuts.

I do not think it will because the z4m has the 330hp engine and the turbo is too close. I hope it does also though.

JO3 · 08-21-2006, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ALPINE6SPD

I do not think it will because the z4m has the 330hp engine and the turbo is too close. I hope it does also though.

As apples-to-oranges as it seems, I am actually cross shopping an M-coupe and a 335 coupe, among others. A Z4 3.5 coupe would be a great compromise between the two cars, and make my purchase decision much easier.

rherd · 08-22-2006, 03:16 PM

Hey BMW320i, where can I get more info on the 135ti?

chonko · 08-23-2006, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW320i

wow, no more 530i?? my father has one

damn engines in the 5er r upgraded rapidly, 540i, 550 and now the 535i !

off-topic, the 3.0 twin turbo will also go 2 the 1er, the new 135ti

check WCF

The Bi-turbo N54 engine will filter into the 5 series and very likely the 1 series.
The regular 5 series line up will be: 528i,535i and 550i- these will be MY2008 lineup.
There is a rumour of a 135ti being caught testing- for the time been that is still under the hush.

epiphone3 · 08-23-2006, 10:26 AM

so the general concensus is no 535i until MY2008, then? I guess the 5-series would be up for a facelift at the same time at that point?

chonko · 08-23-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by epiphone3

so the general concensus is no 535i until MY2008, then? I guess the 5-series would be up for a facelift at the same time at that point?

There are spy shots of MY2007 5 series caught every now and then

BMW320i · 08-25-2006, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rherd

Hey BMW320i, where can I get more info on the 135ti?

check www.worldcarfans.com

or www.germancarfans.com

sorry for the late reply, i was out of town for couple of days

xxpaintmepunkxx · 08-25-2006, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by chonko

There are spy shots of MY2007 5 series caught every now and then

2007 5-Series has been on sale in the US for a bit already. You must be referring to the 2008 model.

xxpaintmepunkxx · 08-25-2006, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by needforspeed

Well the DI engine is a definite for the e60 and in the UK at least the 535i will be a big deal - although it will effectively kill the 540i and make the 550i even more of an 'exotic' decision.

This is what stirs my curiousity. The 3.0L turbo in the 5er would be almost as quick as the 4.8 V8. There's certainly not enough of a performance gap to justify the V8's $10k+ premium.

Not only that, but isn't the 4.0 a new-ish engine? Would BMW kill it off entirely, so soon after it's introduction? I think we will either see a delay in the introduction of the 3.0L turbo to the 5er/7er, or the 4.0L V8 will not disappear entirely but will be around in 4.0L V8-turbo form exclusively, effectively replacing the 4.8L V8 as the top executive model, 100hp below the M5.

ward · 08-25-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by xxpaintmepunkxx

This is what stirs my curiousity. The 3.0L turbo in the 5er would be almost as quick as the 4.8 V8. There's certainly not enough of a performance gap to justify the V8's $10k+ premium.

Not only that, but isn't the 4.0 a new-ish engine? Would BMW kill it off entirely, so soon after it's introduction? I think we will either see a delay in the introduction of the 3.0L turbo to the 5er/7er, or the 4.0L V8 will not disappear entirely but will be around in 4.0L V8-turbo form exclusively, effectively replacing the 4.8L V8 as the top executive model, 100hp below the M5.

maybe I'm not paying attention but hasn't the 4.0 v8 been gone for 5-6 years??

LH1 · 08-25-2006, 07:14 PM

Yeah, what 4.0L V8 are you referring to?

xxpaintmepunkxx · 08-29-2006, 02:05 PM

The aluminum 4.0L V8 that powers the 540i, 640i, and 740i in most of the world? It makes 306bhp, and is mentioned like crazy in all the 3.0L Biturbo press releases, as the horespower is obviously identical. It was introduced recently, in 2005.

chonko · 08-29-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xxpaintmepunkxx

2007 5-Series has been on sale in the US for a bit already. You must be referring to the 2008 model.

Thanks for correcting me- I meant the MY2008.

BenMW · 08-29-2006, 02:15 PM

I am hoping the the Z4 coupe gets the turbo engine.... Actually Praying for it to happen.

xxpaintmepunkxx · 08-29-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chonko

Thanks for correcting me- I meant the MY2008.

No worries, I knew what you meant. Just to avoid the confusion later on.

08-18-2006, 09:46 AM	#1
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08-18-2006, 10:45 AM	#2
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08-18-2006, 10:52 AM	#3
NFS Major General Drives: 335i m-sport LCI Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: UK Posts: 9,215 iTrader: (0)	It won't be that long. There is talk that the 530i will be updated with the new direct injection engine this year. And already e60 customers are clamouring for a 535d that uses the aluminium block installed in the 335d. I think there will be a new 535d and a 535i by March 07. I also think the 525d will be replaced with the 3.0l detuned engine from the 325d. For more rumours look here: http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=26158&st=0 __________________

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JO3 Lieutenant Drives: a lot Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CA Posts: 525 iTrader: (8)	If the turbo engine ever found its way into a Z4 coupe, I may crazy go nuts.

08-19-2006, 12:38 AM	#6
stressdoc Moderator Drives: 335 E90 ZSP+ Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: MO Posts: 9,273 iTrader: (0)	The release of the DI N53 is the stickler here. Not much point to the bi-turbo in the E60 if they can put the N53 in the 530.

08-23-2006, 10:26 AM	#12
epiphone3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2006 BMW 323i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Calgary Posts: 1,510 iTrader: (0)	so the general concensus is no 535i until MY2008, then? I guess the 5-series would be up for a facelift at the same time at that point?

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LH1 Second Lieutenant Drives: x Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PA Posts: 201 iTrader: (0)	Yeah, what 4.0L V8 are you referring to?

08-29-2006, 02:05 PM	#19
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08-29-2006, 02:15 PM	#21
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