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      06-17-2009, 05:09 PM   #1
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Tyres - Runflats or Proper Ones?

I need some new front tyres in the very near future.

Temptation is to get another pair of Bridgestone runflats, but I'm also wondering if I should try some proper (non-runflat) tyres for a change.

What would you do - and why?

(PS if non-runflats which ones?)
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I do not regret making the change to non-RFT. Picked up a complete set of Vredestein Sessantas from Elite Tyres for about £650 (265/30 & 235/35 19''). Plus a couple of cans of tyre weld and a 12v compressor, about £700 all in. The extra kit should ensure I get about the same distance as on a deflated RFT (50 miles).

Makes a huge diffrence to ride comfort and the handling is so much better - you can also enjoy the journey a bit more when you're not scoring the road for potholes.
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Been covered on here quite extensively, consensus of opinion is proper tyres every time, it's a no-brain er
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Falken F452's

I put them on my 330i before i sold it, transformed the car, all 4 for £400 fitted!
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Conti 3's or PS2 NON runflats only! Best of the best.
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Goodyear F1 Assymetricals, had a good test round the ring and didn't fail me.
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how do the Goodyears compare in price with the Conti's and PS2?
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I was in a similar situation a month ago.

Needed to replace both my rears, but was thinking of replacing all with Falkens or non runflat PS2s.

Decided to stick with the runflats because I didnt like the idea of my sis or girlfriend who regurlary use the car with baby on board getting a flat and having to deal with the cans of goo and jack etc.

+ if I was going to sell or px to a bmw dealer, It would help the value etc


In retrospect I wish I switched to non runflats because watching the road for potholes really does take some enjoyment out of driving. And bumps and crashes, especially when your pushing it and ride over a ripple on the road causing the whole car to jump up Dukes of hazard style ( I exaggerate, but thats what it feels like! )
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Value for money, look at Goodyear's F1 Asymetrics or Vredestein's Ultrac Sessantas, 'nuff said.

If you are looking for best tire, hands down....I have no idea. I dont track my car (but I drive hard sometimes on the back roads) and the Vredesteins are more than up to the task. I remember some time back in Evo magazine (even posted up on this forum as well) there was an article which pitted a bunch of UHP tires over a bunch of different test like wet handling, dry handling, lateral g's, skidpad, lap times, etc, and the Goodyears came 1st, the Vredesteins 2nd, and Michilens were 3rd or 4th, cant remember.
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I think the test was done with a VW MK5 GTI..

I had the Goodyear's on my old MK5 GTI, excellent tyre. I'll be looking at these when I've worn out the run-flats....
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how do the Goodyears compare in price with the Conti's and PS2?
I'm guessing at 40-50 quid less a corner...
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PS2's on 19" £1k for all four.

It's a lot better squirting goo and air in a punctured tyre and then getting it repaired when you have time than getting stranded because the run-flat has failed and your car is recovered to a dealer that does not have the tyre in stock and are closer to £300 to £380 a corner.

Getting a run-flat puncture repaired isn't that easy either.

Like I said before it's a no brainer
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      06-18-2009, 12:32 PM   #16
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Happy with the Bridgstone RFT's every time, full set bought via Kwik Fit on line approx £800

Why? Fantastic safety feature, and getting 25k for rears, 35k for fronts

If I wanted a softer ride I wouldnt have bothered with a Sport model

In my old e46330d touring, once found myself of a motorway hard shoulder with a puncture at 6.00am and -2 degrees.

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Getting a run-flat puncture repaired isn't that easy either.

Like I said before it's a no brainer
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I'm not regretting swapping my Bridgestones with PS2's. The PS2's have oodles more grip and a much nicer ride. On 19"s, the Bridgestones are hard as f... and gives you no feel on when the rear will give you an armfull of opposite lock.
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Why? Fantastic safety feature, and getting 25k for rears, 35k for fronts
In my old e46330d touring, once found myself of a motorway hard shoulder with a puncture at 6.00am and -2 degrees.
Really?? Have you had any personal experience of driving on RFT when punctured? Because the advertised mileage is far from real world experience. I know a few people myself included who have shredded a RFT Michelin ZSP in 8-10 miles driving under the 50mph restriction !! A wonderful idea but the technology is still too immature for real world experience. Then you get recovered to the dealer when your RFT fails and they don't have one in stock and you're miles from home. This also not considering the ride issues, not just comfort but the compromised handling over bumps/broken road and when the weather gets colder. then you have the inside edge wear issues because it takes them so long to warm up due to the thickness of the rubber. I'm much happier on normal rubber with a jack, tyre weld and a compressor in the boot.

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Getting a run-flat puncture repaired isn't that easy either.
Not now the manufacturers have relaxed their 'guidelines' with reference to RunFlat tyre repairs.

Of course, the same where it can/cannot be repaired areas come into play, the same for any tyre, be it RF or not.
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Not now the manufacturers have relaxed their 'guidelines' with reference to RunFlat tyre repairs.
That may be what you have read/heard but try telling that to the tyre fitter that wants to sell you another tyre and tells you it's news to him
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Direct advice with no prompting from my independant local motorsport tyre dealer.

Steer clear of the "chains" is my advice! Puncture repairs for them are loss-leaders - "try to upsell to a new tyre and not a repair" is the line from up above I bet!
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I've no problems getting the runflats repaired. I know a tyre fitter who will do it.

I'll have to get some prices for proper tyres, it is tempting. But then as pjs says they are a safety feature and last time I had a puncture the runflat worked brilliantly.

Has anyone regretted putting standard tyres on?
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