11.7 in the 1/4 mile!!!! New record? - Page 2 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

dlbrooks18 · 06-20-2009, 05:31 PM

Wow!!

roozie2001 · 06-20-2009, 06:07 PM

hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars.

dlbrooks18 · 06-20-2009, 06:09 PM

11.7 on stock turbo's is amazing. Looks like with more tuning this meth kit can get to 11.5's.. who needs upgraded turbo's. lol..

hotrod182 · 06-20-2009, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roozie2001

hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars.

He had a awesome launch on his quickest run.
I think he has aftermarket downpipes, intecooler, meth, etc.
I would also assume he has a steptronic?

roozie2001 · 06-20-2009, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod182

He had a awesome launch on his quickest run.
I think he has aftermarket downpipes, intecooler, meth, etc.
I would also assume he has a steptronic?

You ever gonna get DPs, FMIC, Meth etc.??? (if u dont have it already)
P.S. Post pics of the grand national.

Driver72 · 06-20-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by roozie2001

hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars.

Not that that matters.

Hotrod also did his 11.8 run on tune and 105 Octane only (and some weight reduction to make his 335i the same weight as 135i.
No other bolt ons, no meth.
If Hotrod had full bolt ons and meth too, he'd be 11.5 @ 121+ for sure.

I think Hotrods traps were higher too even without all the other bolt ons or meth.

Either way, high 11's is great on the N54 engine.

scottp999 · 06-20-2009, 09:16 PM

What Map? Custom? What peak sustained boost?

brianhn1 · 06-20-2009, 09:53 PM

11.766@119.55 in DA of 2000+ft is pretty amazing for our N54. He used map 11 which is approximately 2 0.5psi boost step increases from map 9 (standard board full race map). Minimal tuning to do that is also impressive in its own right: set to your desired map and it just delivers.

JB335 · 06-20-2009, 09:55 PM

Where's the "Hotrod's numbers cant be repeated" crew?

Septro · 06-20-2009, 10:00 PM

Timeslips were posted over at N54tech and yea I would say that in this hot a weather and +2000 DA that come the Fall, records are going to be continously broken till we get someone pushing low 11s with Meth.

hotrod182 · 06-20-2009, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Not that that matters.

Hotrod also did his 11.8 run on tune and 105 Octane only (and some weight reduction to make his 335i the same weight as 135i.
No other bolt ons, no meth.
If Hotrod had full bolt ons and meth too, he'd be 11.5 @ 121+ for sure.

I think Hotrods traps were higher too even without all the other bolt ons or meth.

Either way, high 11's is great on the N54 engine.

My highest trap was 120.9mph. Traction is key here. I think he got a 1.68 60' time. With that kind of a 60' time, I would have been in the 11.59-11.68 range. But remember, in the interest of preserving my Hoosiers, I did absolutely no warm up burn out. It was too difficult to warm up both tires evenly. Does the OP have a LSD already? Or just planned? A LSD will do wonders I think on launches better than 1.70 seconds. Also, my IATs are already reaching 137F with temps outside of only 63F at the end of the 1/4 mile. So if he is only reaching 3 degrees warmer in ambient temps 30 degrees warmer, that intercooler/meth setup is working wonders!

Rysandro · 06-20-2009, 11:59 PM

Hey Hotrod what size slicks do you run?

hotrod182 · 06-21-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan

Hey Hotrod what size slicks do you run?

275/40/17 Hoosiers
Traction on the street can be a pretty poor 2.0 sec 60' with them, compared to 2.2 with the Generals.
A LSD would really help at this point I think. Also, I believe the OP of this thread does have LSD according to his SIG.

Driver72 · 06-21-2009, 04:58 AM

Yes, the guy had an LSD too.

What's amazing is he got a 11.76 @ 119.55 and hotrod's best is a
11.78 @ 119.55

True Larry was in 2000 feet DA's (well not really sure as he said his best time was the first run of the day so not sure if the 2000 ft DA was the peak of the day or what it was when he ran his best run) but Larry had MANY more mods on his car.
Hotrod did his times in slightly below sea level DA's but no other bolt on mods, no meth, no LSD, etc.

Not taking anything from Larry and his great time, but Hotrod's times are still more impressive considering his lack of mods which easily cancel out the 2000 ft DA advantage Hotrod had.

BTW, warmer days will take away from performance on a hot car, but they also warm the track nicely for better grip on the launch, which is very beneficial for good 60 foot times, which correlate to better ET's
That's why there is a fine balance between being too cold and being too hot.
40 degree days are great for rolling runs, but wreaks havoc at the strip trying to get traction. Just as 90 degree days allows for great times from a dig, but without the help of FMIC, high octane, DCI, and now meth, you'll heat soak faster and that hurts trap speeds and times.

brianhn1 · 06-21-2009, 08:55 AM

The biggest contributing factor to his time definitely has to be the meth setup. Any other non-meth N54 in that DA would not have a good chance of breaking 112-114mph trap speeds.

I don't really think the LSD helps that much in these hot conditions unless the track prep is just terrible. Bradenton typically has a decently prepped track. Rather I can agree with Driver72 that the warmer conditions have the tires work/heat up very well.

TwinTurboXI · 06-21-2009, 08:57 AM

Great times.... heres the link guys

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4431

hotrod182 · 06-21-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Yes, the guy had an LSD too.

What's amazing is he got a 11.76 @ 119.55 and hotrod's best is a
11.78 @ 119.55

True Larry was in 2000 feet DA's (well not really sure as he said his best time was the first run of the day so not sure if the 2000 ft DA was the peak of the day or what it was when he ran his best run) but Larry had MANY more mods on his car.
Hotrod did his times in slightly below sea level DA's but no other bolt on mods, no meth, no LSD, etc.

Not taking anything from Larry and his great time, but Hotrod's times are still more impressive considering his lack of mods which easily cancel out the 2000 ft DA advantage Hotrod had.

BTW, warmer days will take away from performance on a hot car, but they also warm the track nicely for better grip on the launch, which is very beneficial for good 60 foot times, which correlate to better ET's
That's why there is a fine balance between being too cold and being too hot.
40 degree days are great for rolling runs, but wreaks havoc at the strip trying to get traction. Just as 90 degree days allows for great times from a dig, but without the help of FMIC, high octane, DCI, and now meth, you'll heat soak faster and that hurts trap speeds and times.

When I ran it was 66F or so, the DA was a few hundred feet above sea level. The OP was running in about 2300 FT DA. But the meth system definitely helped. And I just heard that they were icing down the intercooler. These things all worked nicely to combat the unfavorable DA. The hot weather definitely helps traction, as does the LSD. So in the traction department, I think it would be hard for the average person in a 335i with just DRs to replicate those 60' times. (1.6x) I still don't think I will replace my intercooler, DPs, Exhaust, LSD, etc. But I am very interested to see what the meth does. I know I will be able to quantify the differences on my vbox. You know me, always testing. I have made over 200 1/4 mile passes in just the last 4 months. This is a testament to the reliability of our platforms.

JNic335i · 06-21-2009, 12:34 PM

JB3= win again.

hotrod182 · 06-21-2009, 12:38 PM

The 335i is a great car. Many cars are falling victim to a tuned 335i. Yesterday it was a new M3, and today a S5. Such a fun car to drive!

645Nm · 06-21-2009, 12:46 PM

Okay, saw the evidence. Congrats man. well done!!!

stillclaimndp · 06-22-2009, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod182

The 335i is a great car. Many cars are falling victim to a tuned 335i. Yesterday it was a new M3, and today a S5. Such a fun car to drive!

I'm mean, I raced a montego blue e92 tonight in the Viper SRT10 on Hwy 680N, not sure if it was tuned but it was not very close : P Not nearly as gratifying as when I pulled the Sl55 or C6 in my 335i (V3 tuned), this was more like being a bully, I prefer being the underdog...

srt8/bmw · 06-22-2009, 08:20 AM

great stuff!!!! The meth is huge in that hot weather.

Nicely done

06-20-2009, 06:07 PM	#24
roozie2001 Just some guy Drives: 2008 White 335i sedan Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,529 iTrader: (4)	hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars. __________________ 2008 BMW 335i/Sedan/Alpine White/Terra/Steptronic/Premium Package/Sports package/Comfort Access/USB/Sirius

06-20-2009, 09:16 PM	#29
scottp999 MFP - Twin Turbo I6 Interceptor Drives: 335i - E92 - 6MT & 4runner SR5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MD Posts: 4,428 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW 335 [4.50]	What Map? Custom? What peak sustained boost? __________________ Rob Beck Turbos, PROcede Rev. 3, PPS Methanol System (DO12/Aquamist Flow Sensor), DCI, Quaife LSD, BMW Performance Suspension, Autobahn Exotics Exhaust, Helix FMIC, AR Design Downpipes, BSH Catch Can, Forge Diverter Valves, P3cars Vent Boost Gauge, Alufelgen CSL Reps, Lux 5.1 H8 Angel Eyes, HPB HID Fogs, LTBMW M3 Side Skirts, BMW M3 Rear Spoiler, BMW Front Aero Lip, BMW Pedal Kit, BMW M Shift Knob, Autotecknic Matte Black Grilles.

06-20-2009, 09:53 PM	#30
brianhn1 Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US Posts: 429 iTrader: (0)	11.766@119.55 in DA of 2000+ft is pretty amazing for our N54. He used map 11 which is approximately 2 0.5psi boost step increases from map 9 (standard board full race map). Minimal tuning to do that is also impressive in its own right: set to your desired map and it just delivers. __________________ Slow Mo

06-20-2009, 11:59 PM	#34
Rysandro Colonel Drives: White 335i Sedan Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orange County CA Posts: 2,818 iTrader: (2)	Hey Hotrod what size slicks do you run? __________________ www.alphaspraypowdercoating.com

06-21-2009, 08:55 AM	#37
brianhn1 Lieutenant Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US Posts: 429 iTrader: (0)	The biggest contributing factor to his time definitely has to be the meth setup. Any other non-meth N54 in that DA would not have a good chance of breaking 112-114mph trap speeds. I don't really think the LSD helps that much in these hot conditions unless the track prep is just terrible. Bradenton typically has a decently prepped track. Rather I can agree with Driver72 that the warmer conditions have the tires work/heat up very well. __________________ Slow Mo

06-20-2009, 05:31 PM	#23
dlbrooks18 Brigadier General Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,186 iTrader: (2)	Wow!!

06-20-2009, 06:09 PM	#25
dlbrooks18 Brigadier General Drives: e90 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,186 iTrader: (2)	11.7 on stock turbo's is amazing. Looks like with more tuning this meth kit can get to 11.5's.. who needs upgraded turbo's. lol..

06-20-2009, 09:55 PM	#31
JB335 Banned Drives: 335is Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: so cal Posts: 1,036 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW 335IS [3.80]	Where's the "Hotrod's numbers cant be repeated" crew?

06-20-2009, 10:00 PM	#32
Septro Banned Drives: '08 e90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: C-Bus, OH Posts: 1,650 iTrader: (1)	Timeslips were posted over at N54tech and yea I would say that in this hot a weather and +2000 DA that come the Fall, records are going to be continously broken till we get someone pushing low 11s with Meth.

06-21-2009, 04:58 AM	#36
Driver72 Brigadier General Drives: 335i - to new owners now. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 4,485 iTrader: (0)	Yes, the guy had an LSD too. What's amazing is he got a 11.76 @ 119.55 and hotrod's best is a 11.78 @ 119.55 True Larry was in 2000 feet DA's (well not really sure as he said his best time was the first run of the day so not sure if the 2000 ft DA was the peak of the day or what it was when he ran his best run) but Larry had MANY more mods on his car. Hotrod did his times in slightly below sea level DA's but no other bolt on mods, no meth, no LSD, etc. Not taking anything from Larry and his great time, but Hotrod's times are still more impressive considering his lack of mods which easily cancel out the 2000 ft DA advantage Hotrod had. BTW, warmer days will take away from performance on a hot car, but they also warm the track nicely for better grip on the launch, which is very beneficial for good 60 foot times, which correlate to better ET's That's why there is a fine balance between being too cold and being too hot. 40 degree days are great for rolling runs, but wreaks havoc at the strip trying to get traction. Just as 90 degree days allows for great times from a dig, but without the help of FMIC, high octane, DCI, and now meth, you'll heat soak faster and that hurts trap speeds and times.

06-21-2009, 08:57 AM	#38
TwinTurboXI Major Drives: 2008 335xi 6mt Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,353 iTrader: (8)	Great times.... heres the link guys http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4431

06-21-2009, 12:34 PM	#40
JNic335i Captain Drives: 08' E92 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 646 iTrader: (7)	JB3= win again. __________________ /// E92 \| JB4 \| UR DP \| BMS DCI \| H&R \| LC Z2S \|

06-21-2009, 12:38 PM	#41
hotrod182 . Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,425 iTrader: (0)	The 335i is a great car. Many cars are falling victim to a tuned 335i. Yesterday it was a new M3, and today a S5. Such a fun car to drive! __________________ 2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.9 @ 108.3mph 2012 LEAF 130MPGe 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR) 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR) 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)

06-21-2009, 12:46 PM	#42
645Nm only in it for the torque - awuleth'umshini wami Drives: sapphire black 335i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: nomad Posts: 425 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 335i sedan [0.00] 2005 120D [0.00] 2007 335i sedan [0.00]	Okay, saw the evidence. Congrats man. well done!!! __________________ JB4. 15ohm /Catless DPs/BMS DCI/BHS Oil Catch Can/RPI FMIC/Bilstein B16/BMW Perf Exhaust/BMW Perf Rims 19'/BMW Perf Steering Wheel/BMS Meth Kit/CMGS Guage/BMS Speed Limiter Defeat/STETT Chargepipe & DV's/DREAMLIST:Upgraded Turbos REVIEWS: Bilstein B16 Ridecontrol//BMW Performance Exhaust//RPI Intercooler//Race Camara Mount

06-22-2009, 08:20 AM	#44
srt8/bmw Private First Class Drives: 08 335xi coupe-Space Gray Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 190 iTrader: (0)	great stuff!!!! The meth is huge in that hot weather. Nicely done __________________ 335xi-JB3, UR DPs, code-3 fmic, BMS filter,borla catback,11.96@116my other rides: 2012 Jeep SRT 12.9 stock 2009 CTS-V Born October/08 12.1@119-stock(sold) 2007 charger srt8 (yes, it is purple-one of 300(sold)

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