E90Post
 


European Auto Source
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > 11.7 in the 1/4 mile!!!! New record?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-20-2009, 05:31 PM   #23
dlbrooks18
Brigadier General
dlbrooks18's Avatar
51
Rep
3,583
Posts

 
Drives: e90 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Wow!!
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 06:07 PM   #24
roozie2001
Just some guy
roozie2001's Avatar
United_States
23
Rep
1,529
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 White 335i sedan
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (4)

hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars.
__________________
2008 BMW 335i/Sedan/Alpine White/Terra/Steptronic/Premium Package/Sports package/Comfort Access/USB/Sirius
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 06:09 PM   #25
dlbrooks18
Brigadier General
dlbrooks18's Avatar
51
Rep
3,583
Posts

 
Drives: e90 335i
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

11.7 on stock turbo's is amazing. Looks like with more tuning this meth kit can get to 11.5's.. who needs upgraded turbo's. lol..
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 07:53 PM   #26
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
84
Rep
3,461
Posts

 
Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by roozie2001 View Post
hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars.
He had a awesome launch on his quickest run.
I think he has aftermarket downpipes, intecooler, meth, etc.
I would also assume he has a steptronic?
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2012 LEAF 130MPGe
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR)
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR)
60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 08:04 PM   #27
roozie2001
Just some guy
roozie2001's Avatar
United_States
23
Rep
1,529
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 White 335i sedan
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod182 View Post
He had a awesome launch on his quickest run.
I think he has aftermarket downpipes, intecooler, meth, etc.
I would also assume he has a steptronic?
You ever gonna get DPs, FMIC, Meth etc.??? (if u dont have it already)
P.S. Post pics of the grand national.
__________________
2008 BMW 335i/Sedan/Alpine White/Terra/Steptronic/Premium Package/Sports package/Comfort Access/USB/Sirius
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 08:51 PM   #28
Driver72
Brigadier General
107
Rep
4,485
Posts

 
Drives: 335i - to new owners now.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by roozie2001 View Post
hotrod has a 3 series. 2 different cars.
Not that that matters.

Hotrod also did his 11.8 run on tune and 105 Octane only (and some weight reduction to make his 335i the same weight as 135i.
No other bolt ons, no meth.
If Hotrod had full bolt ons and meth too, he'd be 11.5 @ 121+ for sure.

I think Hotrods traps were higher too even without all the other bolt ons or meth.

Either way, high 11's is great on the N54 engine.
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 09:16 PM   #29
scottp999
Brigadier General
scottp999's Avatar
57
Rep
4,666
Posts

 
Drives: 335i - E92 - 6MT & 4runner SR5
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: MD

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2007 BMW 335  [4.50]
What Map? Custom? What peak sustained boost?
__________________
Rob Beck Turbos, PROcede Rev. 3, Procede Fueling Flash (via OpenFlash Tablet), PPS Methanol System (Devil's Own 12 GPH Nozzle/Aquamist Flow Sensor/Labonte VC25), DCI, Quaife LSD, BMW Performance Suspension, Autobahn Exotics Exhaust, Helix FMIC, AR Design Downpipes, BSH Catch Can, Forge Diverter Valves, P3cars Vent Boost Gauge, Alufelgen CSL Reps, Lux 5.1 H8 Angel Eyes, HPB HID Fogs, LTBMW M3 Side Skirts, BMW M3 Rear Spoiler, BMW Front Aero Lip, BMW Pedal Kit, BMW M Shift Knob, Autotecknic Matte Black Grilles.
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 09:53 PM   #30
brianhn1
Slow Mo
5
Rep
524
Posts

 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

11.766@119.55 in DA of 2000+ft is pretty amazing for our N54. He used map 11 which is approximately 2 0.5psi boost step increases from map 9 (standard board full race map). Minimal tuning to do that is also impressive in its own right: set to your desired map and it just delivers.
__________________
'15 M4 AW/SO, ED 7/1/14, US 8/4/14, PU 8/18/14
'13 X5 35i, '08 335i
Motorcycles: '12 R1200GS, '10 F800GS, '74 R90S, 09' Ducati Monster 696, '10 HD V-Rod

Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 09:55 PM   #31
JB335
Banned
United_States
14
Rep
1,035
Posts

 
Drives: 335is
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: so cal

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2011 BMW 335IS  [3.80]
Where's the "Hotrod's numbers cant be repeated" crew?
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 10:00 PM   #32
Septro
Banned
28
Rep
1,649
Posts

 
Drives: '08 e90 335xi
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: C-Bus, OH

iTrader: (1)

Timeslips were posted over at N54tech and yea I would say that in this hot a weather and +2000 DA that come the Fall, records are going to be continously broken till we get someone pushing low 11s with Meth.
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 11:54 PM   #33
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
84
Rep
3,461
Posts

 
Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Driver72 View Post
Not that that matters.

Hotrod also did his 11.8 run on tune and 105 Octane only (and some weight reduction to make his 335i the same weight as 135i.
No other bolt ons, no meth.
If Hotrod had full bolt ons and meth too, he'd be 11.5 @ 121+ for sure.

I think Hotrods traps were higher too even without all the other bolt ons or meth.

Either way, high 11's is great on the N54 engine.
My highest trap was 120.9mph. Traction is key here. I think he got a 1.68 60' time. With that kind of a 60' time, I would have been in the 11.59-11.68 range. But remember, in the interest of preserving my Hoosiers, I did absolutely no warm up burn out. It was too difficult to warm up both tires evenly. Does the OP have a LSD already? Or just planned? A LSD will do wonders I think on launches better than 1.70 seconds. Also, my IATs are already reaching 137F with temps outside of only 63F at the end of the 1/4 mile. So if he is only reaching 3 degrees warmer in ambient temps 30 degrees warmer, that intercooler/meth setup is working wonders!
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2012 LEAF 130MPGe
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR)
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR)
60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2009, 11:59 PM   #34
Rylen
Colonel
Rylen's Avatar
59
Rep
2,775
Posts

 
Drives: White 335i Sedan
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Orange County CA

iTrader: (2)

Hey Hotrod what size slicks do you run?
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 01:08 AM   #35
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
84
Rep
3,461
Posts

 
Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 09AlpineTTSedan View Post
Hey Hotrod what size slicks do you run?
275/40/17 Hoosiers
Traction on the street can be a pretty poor 2.0 sec 60' with them, compared to 2.2 with the Generals.
A LSD would really help at this point I think. Also, I believe the OP of this thread does have LSD according to his SIG.
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2012 LEAF 130MPGe
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR)
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR)
60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 04:58 AM   #36
Driver72
Brigadier General
107
Rep
4,485
Posts

 
Drives: 335i - to new owners now.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Yes, the guy had an LSD too.

What's amazing is he got a 11.76 @ 119.55 and hotrod's best is a
11.78 @ 119.55

True Larry was in 2000 feet DA's (well not really sure as he said his best time was the first run of the day so not sure if the 2000 ft DA was the peak of the day or what it was when he ran his best run) but Larry had MANY more mods on his car.
Hotrod did his times in slightly below sea level DA's but no other bolt on mods, no meth, no LSD, etc.

Not taking anything from Larry and his great time, but Hotrod's times are still more impressive considering his lack of mods which easily cancel out the 2000 ft DA advantage Hotrod had.


BTW, warmer days will take away from performance on a hot car, but they also warm the track nicely for better grip on the launch, which is very beneficial for good 60 foot times, which correlate to better ET's
That's why there is a fine balance between being too cold and being too hot.
40 degree days are great for rolling runs, but wreaks havoc at the strip trying to get traction. Just as 90 degree days allows for great times from a dig, but without the help of FMIC, high octane, DCI, and now meth, you'll heat soak faster and that hurts trap speeds and times.
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 08:55 AM   #37
brianhn1
Slow Mo
5
Rep
524
Posts

 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: US

iTrader: (0)

The biggest contributing factor to his time definitely has to be the meth setup. Any other non-meth N54 in that DA would not have a good chance of breaking 112-114mph trap speeds.

I don't really think the LSD helps that much in these hot conditions unless the track prep is just terrible. Bradenton typically has a decently prepped track. Rather I can agree with Driver72 that the warmer conditions have the tires work/heat up very well.
__________________
'15 M4 AW/SO, ED 7/1/14, US 8/4/14, PU 8/18/14
'13 X5 35i, '08 335i
Motorcycles: '12 R1200GS, '10 F800GS, '74 R90S, 09' Ducati Monster 696, '10 HD V-Rod

Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 08:57 AM   #38
TwinTurboXI
Major
40
Rep
1,390
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 135i
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Pittsburgh

iTrader: (9)

Great times.... heres the link guys

http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4431
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 12:24 PM   #39
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
84
Rep
3,461
Posts

 
Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Driver72 View Post
Yes, the guy had an LSD too.

What's amazing is he got a 11.76 @ 119.55 and hotrod's best is a
11.78 @ 119.55

True Larry was in 2000 feet DA's (well not really sure as he said his best time was the first run of the day so not sure if the 2000 ft DA was the peak of the day or what it was when he ran his best run) but Larry had MANY more mods on his car.
Hotrod did his times in slightly below sea level DA's but no other bolt on mods, no meth, no LSD, etc.

Not taking anything from Larry and his great time, but Hotrod's times are still more impressive considering his lack of mods which easily cancel out the 2000 ft DA advantage Hotrod had.


BTW, warmer days will take away from performance on a hot car, but they also warm the track nicely for better grip on the launch, which is very beneficial for good 60 foot times, which correlate to better ET's
That's why there is a fine balance between being too cold and being too hot.
40 degree days are great for rolling runs, but wreaks havoc at the strip trying to get traction. Just as 90 degree days allows for great times from a dig, but without the help of FMIC, high octane, DCI, and now meth, you'll heat soak faster and that hurts trap speeds and times.
When I ran it was 66F or so, the DA was a few hundred feet above sea level. The OP was running in about 2300 FT DA. But the meth system definitely helped. And I just heard that they were icing down the intercooler. These things all worked nicely to combat the unfavorable DA. The hot weather definitely helps traction, as does the LSD. So in the traction department, I think it would be hard for the average person in a 335i with just DRs to replicate those 60' times. (1.6x) I still don't think I will replace my intercooler, DPs, Exhaust, LSD, etc. But I am very interested to see what the meth does. I know I will be able to quantify the differences on my vbox. You know me, always testing. I have made over 200 1/4 mile passes in just the last 4 months. This is a testament to the reliability of our platforms.
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2012 LEAF 130MPGe
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR)
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR)
60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 12:34 PM   #40
JNic335i
Captain
JNic335i's Avatar
United_States
37
Rep
658
Posts

 
Drives: 08' E92 335i
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to JNic335i
JB3= win again.
__________________
/// E92 | JB4 | UR DP | BMS DCI | H&R | LC Z2S |
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 12:38 PM   #41
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
84
Rep
3,461
Posts

 
Drives: 07 335i, 06 M3
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

The 335i is a great car. Many cars are falling victim to a tuned 335i. Yesterday it was a new M3, and today a S5. Such a fun car to drive!
__________________
2011 Alpine 335d M-Sport 12.34 @ 110.48mph
2012 LEAF 130MPGe
2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph,(8.39 sec 60-130 stock turboWR)
2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph (N54 trap speed WR)
60-130mph: 6.95 seconds stock turbo WR (.16% slope)
Appreciate 0
      06-21-2009, 12:46 PM   #42
645Nm
only in it for the torque - awuleth'umshini wami
645Nm's Avatar
South Africa
11
Rep
425
Posts

 
Drives: sapphire black 335i
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: nomad

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i sedan  [0.00]
2005 120D  [0.00]
2007 335i sedan  [0.00]
Okay, saw the evidence. Congrats man. well done!!!
__________________

JB4. 15ohm /Catless DPs/BMS DCI/BHS Oil Catch Can/RPI FMIC/Bilstein B16/BMW Perf Exhaust/BMW Perf Rims 19'/BMW Perf Steering Wheel/BMS Meth Kit/CMGS Guage/BMS Speed Limiter Defeat/STETT Chargepipe & DV's/DREAMLIST:Upgraded Turbos
REVIEWS: Bilstein B16 Ridecontrol//BMW Performance Exhaust//RPI Intercooler//Race Camara Mount
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2009, 01:17 AM   #43
stillclaimndp
Dancing Machine
stillclaimndp's Avatar
United_States
20
Rep
1,419
Posts

 
Drives: 335i e90 ZSP
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Walnut Creek, Ca

iTrader: (0)

Send a message via AIM to stillclaimndp
Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod182 View Post
The 335i is a great car. Many cars are falling victim to a tuned 335i. Yesterday it was a new M3, and today a S5. Such a fun car to drive!
I'm mean, I raced a montego blue e92 tonight in the Viper SRT10 on Hwy 680N, not sure if it was tuned but it was not very close : P Not nearly as gratifying as when I pulled the Sl55 or C6 in my 335i (V3 tuned), this was more like being a bully, I prefer being the underdog...
__________________
2007 e90 & 1981 Corvette Predecessors: 2007 BMW 335i E92, 2006 M5, 2008 Viper SRT10 Coupe, 2005 Viper Yellow, 2006 Corvette Z51, 2009 Challenger SRT8, 2006 S4, 2001.5 Nogaro Blue S4, 2006 GTI w/ DSG, 06 Evo IX, 04 S4, 04 911x51, 03 Evo VIII, 98 Eclipse GSX, 96 GST, 92 Galant Vr-4, '70 Grand Prix Model J, '70 Nova, '68 Firebird
Appreciate 0
      06-22-2009, 08:20 AM   #44
srt8/bmw
Private First Class
2
Rep
192
Posts

 
Drives: 08 335xi coupe-Space Gray
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: michigan

iTrader: (0)

great stuff!!!! The meth is huge in that hot weather.


Nicely done
__________________
2013550Xi msport white
335xi-JB3, UR DPs, code-3 fmic, BMS filter,borla catback,11.96@116
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:09 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST