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      05-04-2015, 07:22 AM   #1
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I always thought the 330d LCI came with the larger 335 front calipers however mine is fitted with 330mm disks.

The disks and pads don't have long left. Would the upgrade to the 335 setup be worthwhile or is it not worth it on a daily driver?
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      05-04-2015, 07:55 AM   #2
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It really depends on how you drive tbf. Some will say standards are up to the job others will look to upgrade.

I always think going bigger is better lol. Will provide more bite and less fade (if you experience that).

Otherwise a pad and disc upgrade can be more than enough potentially.

I'm going to be removing my standard brakes soon.
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      05-04-2015, 09:05 AM   #3
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how much you want to spend? you can get the bmw perfomace brake kit for 700 now.
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      05-04-2015, 10:42 AM   #4
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I don't really have a budget to be fair.

It's going to cost around £200-£250 for disks all round then whatever a decent set of pads cost.

If the bigger discs make a discernible difference; I'd locate a set of calipers. If not; I wouldn't bother with a BBK as it feels a little excessive.
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      05-04-2015, 12:00 PM   #5
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how much you want to spend? you can get the bmw perfomace brake kit for 700 now.
Where from? Is that for a 335D?
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      05-04-2015, 12:05 PM   #6
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it's for anything model apart from 335's.

Alot of parts website was selling it for 7xx when i last look for it. i imagine will be cheaper now.
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I don't really have a budget to be fair.

It's going to cost around £200-£250 for disks all round then whatever a decent set of pads cost.

If the bigger discs make a discernible difference; I'd locate a set of calipers. If not; I wouldn't bother with a BBK as it feels a little excessive.
Not really excessive, you get new disc, pads and brembo calipers that has been rebranded to bmw and it stop very well , all just for alittle bit more.
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      05-04-2015, 01:13 PM   #8
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Id really like to see the link to the performance brake kit for 700.

New pads fitted at BMW are 200 alone.
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      05-04-2015, 01:42 PM   #9
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Yeah, 40 for the pads and 160 for having your pants pulled down for going to a main dealers

Personally Id rather get the bigger 335 discs and callipers than the smaller performance set up, and is probably what I will be doing when mine are due for a change.
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      05-04-2015, 02:21 PM   #10
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Id really like to see the link to the performance brake kit for 700.

New pads fitted at BMW are 200 alone.
i find it for u when i have time later on
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Yeah, 40 for the pads and 160 for having your pants pulled down for going to a main dealers

Personally Id rather get the bigger 335 discs and callipers than the smaller performance set up, and is probably what I will be doing when mine are due for a change.
I own a 335i and seriously i think the brakes are shite.
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      05-04-2015, 03:16 PM   #12
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I think the 335 brakes are OK in the real scheme of things but they do lack a little feel, ultimately part of the issue for me is clamping force as you've only got a single piston application on the callipers therefore if we had a 4 piston setup on the same disc size I'm sure the std brakes would for most be fine, as they'd clamp a greater area, but when pressing on I guess this above all else is the biggest single weakness of the std setup not the disc size itself which isn't thst bad.

Some have tried pad and disc changes and have reported mild improvements I'm looking to do something in the future as my pads are getting low discs are slightly lipped so I'm doing a bit of digging to see what's out there
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      05-04-2015, 04:44 PM   #13
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I have an LCI 330d and have done this exact upgrade. The braking is so much Better inspiring more confidence and the calipers look nicer too. I painted mine in silver so they look like new. A worthwhile upgrade if you can source some 335 calipers.
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      05-04-2015, 04:59 PM   #14
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I have an LCI 330d and have done this exact upgrade. The braking is so much Better inspiring more confidence and the calipers look nicer too. I painted mine in silver so they look like new. A worthwhile upgrade if you can source some 335 calipers.
How much did you pay for your 335 setup Shej?
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      05-05-2015, 01:17 PM   #15
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I have the BMW performance 135i brakes on my 330D a lot better then 330 or 335i brakes
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      05-05-2015, 03:08 PM   #16
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I have the BMW performance 135i brakes on my 330D a lot better then 330 or 335i brakes
Not against the 335i brakes unfortunately. If they were then the 335i peeps would upgrade to them. Just increasing the number of pots doesn't increase the braking performance when the disc is physically smaller.
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      05-05-2015, 05:24 PM   #17
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what about m3 brakes? anyone tried them?

need to do something about my scored disks on my pre lci 330d soon.
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      05-05-2015, 05:33 PM   #18
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Completely different setup I believe including hubs.

Strangely when I had my M3; the Guys on the forums used to slate the standard brake setup due to not being special enough.

I've priced up a replacement setup and for around £250 I can get Redstuff pads and Febi disks all round plus new wear sensors and fitting kits.

Unless I got an upgraded set of calipers for practically nothing; I doubt I'd bother.
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Works out just under 740 depending on exchange rate. You can also contact them and ask for forum discount ( as mention by another member )
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      05-06-2015, 08:11 AM   #20
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Guys, while we are on the subject is there any resource as to what the different levels of braking system are provided on the E9x series?

i.e - SE
- MSport
- M3

I have a E92 330i MSport and it has what are obviously larger calipers than the SE models. I'd be interested to know the differences.
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      05-06-2015, 08:28 AM   #21
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The primary advantage of going larger is heat management. If your not melting your existing brakes you will gain nothing going larger. If you want to change how they feel (ie you want more bite), use different pads.

The primary advantage of going for a rigid multi-piston caliper over a single piston sliding is an improvement in braking feel and pedal progression. The stock sliding calipers are very "flexible" which translates thru the pedal. Rigid multi-piston calipers are much stiffer, and this gives a more positive, solid braking feel, and if your some sort of pro-race-driver you might be able to eeke out a tiny bit of extra braking performance due to having more resolution and accuracy thru the pedal as the brakes approach locking.

Going larger for no reason isnt only a waste of money, but it actually makes the car slower, as you've added extra weight, in the worst possible place.

And contrary to popular belief, bigger brakes wont stop your car any faster, as the braking system even on a completely standard car is limited by the tyres grip on the road. Infact, upgrading parts can actually INCREASE stopping distances due to it upsetting the ABS systems calibration!
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      05-06-2015, 08:53 AM   #22
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I upgraded my 325i brakes to 335 brakes and it stops a lot better, looks better as well. It the cheapest option even with the best discs and pads you can buy. A Bbk is going to set you back 1500+.

By the way the front brakes are easy to change, I think the rears on yours will need modified rear handbreak shoes.
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