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      01-24-2014, 03:24 PM   #1299
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Big Motoring World Secret Branch?

I was driving through West London the other week (Southall / Ealing Area) and got caught up in traffic.

Lots of Jag's, Merc's, Bm's and Audi's around, anyhow I happend to notice that virtually every other BM' I passed had Big Motoring World number plates attached.

I wonder if Big has another branch round there somewhere?
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      01-27-2014, 08:46 AM   #1300
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One wonders how Big Motoring World are still trading?

I have not found a single positive review that was not written by their own staff but is that because nobody ever leaves a review unless its negative? Perhaps, but I doubt it.

How many people who have had an issue have reported it to trading standards? Surely there must be enough complains to warrant an investigation from them?

Kent trading standards are part of Kent County Council so I suspect they are all tied up bondage style in red tape and meetings with nobody who is capable of making a decision so I am not surprised nothing has been done about the borderline criminals that are Big Motoring World. Having worked for KCC, the amount of over overpaid middle managers and directors who actually prevent progress is astounding yet our tax payers money is being wasted!

How do the salesman sleep at night? They literally must have no morals.
I know salesman can do ok for a living but I can't imagine they are raking it in that much that their morals completely go out of the window?

I realise that these guys buy their cars from auction in bulk but plenty of car garages buy from auctions so why are almost all the ones they sell in un-roadworthy condition? Do they buy the dregs for next to nothing and double the price with no prep work before sale? I suspect the answer is yes...

The fact these cowboys are allowed to carry on trading makes me have little faith in the Sales laws that exist in England. I know the Sale of Goods act does exist but does anybody with any authority actually enforce it?
What about the ombudsman? Surely complaints about them must have been logged with them?

It appears that despite hundreds of bad online reviews, spanning several years that Big Motoring World are continuing to rip innocent people off and rake in millions in profit.

One of the Big Motoring World employees must live near me as I often see his 520D plastered in their logos on my commute to work...
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      01-27-2014, 07:52 PM   #1301
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One wonders how Big Motoring World are still trading?

I have not found a single positive review that was not written by their own staff but is that because nobody ever leaves a review unless its negative? Perhaps, but I doubt it.

How many people who have had an issue have reported it to trading standards? Surely there must be enough complains to warrant an investigation from them?

Kent trading standards are part of Kent County Council so I suspect they are all tied up bondage style in red tape and meetings with nobody who is capable of making a decision so I am not surprised nothing has been done about the borderline criminals that are Big Motoring World. Having worked for KCC, the amount of over overpaid middle managers and directors who actually prevent progress is astounding yet our tax payers money is being wasted!

How do the salesman sleep at night? They literally must have no morals.
I know salesman can do ok for a living but I can't imagine they are raking it in that much that their morals completely go out of the window?

I realise that these guys buy their cars from auction in bulk but plenty of car garages buy from auctions so why are almost all the ones they sell in un-roadworthy condition? Do they buy the dregs for next to nothing and double the price with no prep work before sale? I suspect the answer is yes...

The fact these cowboys are allowed to carry on trading makes me have little faith in the Sales laws that exist in England. I know the Sale of Goods act does exist but does anybody with any authority actually enforce it?
What about the ombudsman? Surely complaints about them must have been logged with them?

It appears that despite hundreds of bad online reviews, spanning several years that Big Motoring World are continuing to rip innocent people off and rake in millions in profit.

One of the Big Motoring World employees must live near me as I often see his 520D plastered in their logos on my commute to work...
I agree that trading standards don't seem to be effective (why?)

Yes, they buy from auctions like every other dealer around, but I suspect that the main difference is they do NOT do any mechanical/electrical inspections etc on their newly aquired vehicles, simply because they are buying so many all the time in bulk, and :


1. Probably hav'nt got the skilled staff for the checks

2. Hav'nt got the time (quick turnaround)

3. Simply can't be bothered!

All they barely seem able to do is clean them!

I've been told on good authority, that for every motor a salesman sells at Big, his commission is 100.

That's on top of his basic salary which is minimum wage.

In theory, if a salesman sells 3 motors a week + wage, he should be looking at just over 500 for a 40 hour week! Not bad for a b***s*****r!

IMO, if your saving a few grand on main BMW dealer prices, then to some it's worth taking a chance?

Say (as a group) their selling almost 5,000 cars per year, how many satisfied/dissatisfied customers from these sales would there be?

That's the $64,000 dollar question! Unfortunately their still in business and expanding.

So my guess is, there must be a lot more satisfied customers, although I truly suspect this has more to do with the purchase price than the reliability.

One day I suspect they will crash, only time will tell.
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      02-12-2014, 04:20 PM   #1302
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Conmen/salesmen at big motoring world

These guys are a con! My recent experience with them exposes how they deceive people into engaging with them. Anyone can verify this. Its simple. They advertise a car on autotrader at a significantly lower price. The same car is then advertised according to its actual sale price on carshop. If you ring enquiring about the car, they tell u that they are holding a deposit on it and offer you other similar cars at a much higher price. The car i caught them out on is a 730d m sport. AO10JNK. It is advertised on autotrader for 18k. Same car advertised on carshop for 22k. I rang the sales team. They have absolutely no manners or customer service skills. They sound like rough scallies to be honest. No professionalism.

Anyway, the guy claims the car in question is holding a deposit. So i ask how much did it sell for. He avoided answering and offered me a list of other cars. Sl i asked again how much the car went for. He claims he doesnt have access to it as its not on his list. How bizaare. He says it sold for the advertised price. So i asked what the advertised price is and he replied its the price that its advertised at lol. I think there is a significant difference between a car advertised at 18k and being offered an alternative at 22k. I dont for one minute believe someone has a deposit on it. Its offered as bait...a red herring. They want you to go into the dealership so that then they can put pressure on you. Something needs to be done about this deceit.
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      02-18-2014, 06:24 AM   #1303
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Has anyone noticed the unusual number of charity events that seem to happen at Big?

A mate of mine phoned them up about a motor they had for sale, only to be told all about the event that was going on instead.

They didn't seem at all interested (how unusual) about flogging him a car!

These events imo are just to gain good publicity for a bad company.

In other words just a smoke screen to make punters feel that they must be a caring company if they are seen to be doing saintly things!!!
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      03-03-2014, 09:34 AM   #1304
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I was driving behind a double decker bus the other day and almost crashed into it after rubbing my eyes in astonishment.

There was a advertisement plastered accross the back saying where to go for all your BM' needs, no other than Big Motoring World would you believe.

It does'nt seem to matter where you go these days, 'Big' seems to be everywhere!
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      03-03-2014, 11:26 AM   #1305
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These events imo are just to gain good publicity for a bad company.

In other words just a smoke screen to make punters feel that they must be a caring company if they are seen to be doing saintly things!!!

don't be silly, it will be tax deductible!
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      03-07-2014, 10:51 AM   #1306
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Advice Buying a Used 3 Series Touring Car not from Big Motoring World!

I'm glad I found this thread, as I am looking to purchase a BMW 3 Series Touring car, as I need the space following the arrival of a new baby (and the enormous amount of equipment we apparently need), but I don't know much about the car at all, including what price I should be aiming to pay, so I was immediately attracted yesterday to what seemed a relatively well priced car on Auto Trader compared to others of the same model. The vehicle was being advertised as a featured car by Big Motoring World, and it was literally 1000s cheaper than anything else that matched it on paper, particularly given the low mileage and young age of the car, so I called Big Motoring World and first of all got told their systems were down by someone who didn't exactly sound super professional, so they couldn't check for that car, and could I call them at another time, which surprised me, as I was a hot lead looking to buy, and they were happy to let me go without offering to take my details and call me back. Also was I supposed to guess when their system was back up? However it seemed such a good deal I did call back, against my better judgement, and was told that car wasn't available for sale so it had probably just gone, but a few other similar ones which had many 10s of thousand more miles were. I asked why the original one was so cheap in comparison others I'd seen on Auto Trader, and was told that 'maybe it had a big scratch down it'. Anyway, suspicions aroused, I put the phone down and looked for some reviews about Big Motoring World, and found this very informative and amusing thread. I'll certainly be avoiding this company now!

Given my lack of knowledge regarding this car, can any of you guys offer any advice about the model and the sort of price I should be looking to pay, and whether or not you would absolutely recommend a main dealership over e.g. an independent dealership or private sale?

I was led to the car by doing online research and it seemed to be very much recommended in it's category compared to e.g. the A4 Avant. The model 'What Car' say is best is the 320d SE 5dr. Firstly, would you agree, as I'm not too bothered whether I drive a diesel or not, particularly as I only drive a few thousand miles a year? Is there much difference between the 320d or i and the 318d or i?

I'm ideally looking to spend 10-13.5k for a car that is up to 5 years old, and has below 60k miles. The Big Motoring World car, which is still being advertised today as a featured offer on AutoTrader despite being sold, was a 318d for 11k despite being a 2011 model! The mileage was 40k. It had new tyres, alloys, MP3 interface etc etc. However, when I now look on the BMW main dealers site, I suddenly come across similar models around that price which are 2007 models and with a lot more miles, so I've definitely had my perceptions skewed by Big Motoring World.

Any advice welcome

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Given my lack of knowledge regarding this car, can any of you guys offer any advice about the model and the sort of price I should be looking to pay, and whether or not you would absolutely recommend a main dealership over e.g. an independent dealership or private sale?

I don't know what the price of E90's are going for on AUC at the moment so not sure if they are in your budget, but I certainly do recommend that you purchase from a BMW dealership as you get the benefit of the BMW AUC warranty.
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I don't know what the price of E90's are going for on AUC at the moment so not sure if they are in your budget, but I certainly do recommend that you purchase from a BMW dealership as you get the benefit of the BMW AUC warranty.
Thanks for the advice, I tend to agree. I have looked, and they seem a lot more expensive than elsewhere, which is a shame, but you obviously get a lot more reassurance. For my budget it just means I'd need to get a lot older car with higher mileage compared to the other options. For example a 2007, 320d Touring with 72k miles is 12k, and I wouldn't be interested in that age or mileage, so you can see why the Big Motoring World featured car that isn't actually available when you call seemed so attractive at first glance when 1k cheaper, 30k less miles and 4 years younger. However, given this thread I imagine you get what you pay for even if it was available!
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Wow! Think I dodged a bullet there.

I just bought a 320d from an independent guy in Didsbury. Nice chap, small forecourt crammed with high-ish-end cars parked mirror to mirror. I was going to go down to these people to see what they actually had in because trying to get hold of them on the phone was a nightmare.

Apparently, this sold 3 weeks ago:
http://www.bigmotoringworld.co.uk/us...1311129856615#

Hmmmm. I paid 500 more than that for a car with 17k more on it and no iDrive or leather.
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I'm glad I found this thread, as I am looking to purchase a BMW 3 Series Touring car, as I need the space following the arrival of a new baby (and the enormous amount of equipment we apparently need), but I don't know much about the car at all, including what price I should be aiming to pay, so I was immediately attracted yesterday to what seemed a relatively well priced car on Auto Trader compared to others of the same model. The vehicle was being advertised as a featured car by Big Motoring World, and it was literally 1000s cheaper than anything else that matched it on paper, particularly given the low mileage and young age of the car, so I called Big Motoring World and first of all got told their systems were down by someone who didn't exactly sound super professional, so they couldn't check for that car, and could I call them at another time, which surprised me, as I was a hot lead looking to buy, and they were happy to let me go without offering to take my details and call me back. Also was I supposed to guess when their system was back up? However it seemed such a good deal I did call back, against my better judgement, and was told that car wasn't available for sale so it had probably just gone, but a few other similar ones which had many 10s of thousand more miles were. I asked why the original one was so cheap in comparison others I'd seen on Auto Trader, and was told that 'maybe it had a big scratch down it'. Anyway, suspicions aroused, I put the phone down and looked for some reviews about Big Motoring World, and found this very informative and amusing thread. I'll certainly be avoiding this company now!

Given my lack of knowledge regarding this car, can any of you guys offer any advice about the model and the sort of price I should be looking to pay, and whether or not you would absolutely recommend a main dealership over e.g. an independent dealership or private sale?

I was led to the car by doing online research and it seemed to be very much recommended in it's category compared to e.g. the A4 Avant. The model 'What Car' say is best is the 320d SE 5dr. Firstly, would you agree, as I'm not too bothered whether I drive a diesel or not, particularly as I only drive a few thousand miles a year? Is there much difference between the 320d or i and the 318d or i?

I'm ideally looking to spend 10-13.5k for a car that is up to 5 years old, and has below 60k miles. The Big Motoring World car, which is still being advertised today as a featured offer on AutoTrader despite being sold, was a 318d for 11k despite being a 2011 model! The mileage was 40k. It had new tyres, alloys, MP3 interface etc etc. However, when I now look on the BMW main dealers site, I suddenly come across similar models around that price which are 2007 models and with a lot more miles, so I've definitely had my perceptions skewed by Big Motoring World.

Any advice welcome
If you're only doing a few thousand miles per year then you should go for either the 318i or 320i petrol engine's.

IMO if you're doing more than say 15,000 miles per year or you intend to keep the car for a long period of time then going for the diesel engine would be a better choice.

However, the diesel engine cars will cost more than the petrol engine equivalent (as prices will show), and will cost more to maintain due to the parts and servicing.

I must admit that a good all-rounder for me is the 320d, you have the performance with the economy ie: 0-60 in 7.5 sec, 145 mph, 50+ mpg,
and 600 miles to a full tank (if driven reasonably), I guess that's why I bought one!

Also, I would'nt be too concerned about having i-drive, as there is more to go wrong with the i-drive system (as everyone I've spoken to tell's me), plus it spoils the look of the straight cut clean line dash with the extra (hump) binacle.

It does'nt really matter if you don't buy the vehicle from a main dealer,but just make sure it has an up to date fully maintained service history by a recognised main BM' dealer in the past.

Finally, even though I slag Big Motoring World, keep an open mind. A mate of mine went down there without telling them he was comming, saw the car with the spec he wanted and bought it, he saved himself around 3k compared to a main dealer!

Yes they weren't very helpfull, they were rude and abrupt with him and the warranty was'nt worth the paper it was printed on, but he decided he could put up with all that if he was saving a lot of money, and to date the car is running ok. He took a chance and the gamble payed off! (although it has'nt for many).

A good place to start looking is online at www.Autotrader.co.uk, know the spec
of car you're after and be patient, something will turn up sooner or later it always does.
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Wow! Think I dodged a bullet there.

I just bought a 320d from an independent guy in Didsbury. Nice chap, small forecourt crammed with high-ish-end cars parked mirror to mirror. I was going to go down to these people to see what they actually had in because trying to get hold of them on the phone was a nightmare.

Apparently, this sold 3 weeks ago:
http://www.bigmotoringworld.co.uk/us...1311129856615#

Hmmmm. I paid 500 more than that for a car with 17k more on it and no iDrive or leather.
You probably had a lucky escape mate! The car probably never existed in the first place, it was an ad used to lure punters in like yourself.

Big Motoring World do this all the time, just a red herring used as bait to get you down there and waste your time, trying to flog you another car you don't want!

Many people have complained to trading standards about them, but nothing ever seems to happen, maybe they've got inside connections?
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Driving along the other day listening to my favourite radio station, when the music was interrupted by an advert............ yes you've guessed it,
Bloody Big Motoring World again!!!!

So my advice to anyone driving around the kent area is.........Don't get stuck behind a double decker bus listening to KMFM Radio!
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