E90Post
 


TNT Racewerks
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > Off-Topic Discussions Board > Photography/Videography > Laptop with 4k for photo editing - worth it or unnecessary resolution?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-13-2017, 11:41 AM   #1
GoHokiesGo
Private
GoHokiesGo's Avatar
United_States
55
Rep
90
Posts

Drives: 2010 X5M
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Loudoun, VA

iTrader: (0)

Laptop with 4k for photo editing - worth it or unnecessary resolution?

TL;DR = I use my laptop for photo editing and am ready for a new one. Is it worth the upgrade price for a 4k screen on a laptop, or is it a waste for small screen even if just the laptop alone is your primary editing option?

Full info=
I posted this on one of my photo forums, but this site has a pretty active photographers group too.

I'm in the market for a new laptop. I have an aging 1st generation Lenovo Yoga that has served me well over the past 5 years, but has started to struggle mightily with Lightroom the past 1-2 months. I want a new laptop for the next few years that is capable of strong Lightroom performance, but I am the type of person that sits on the couch while editing; photography is only a hobby for me (albeit a big hobby), so I do not have a dedicated desktop in my home for photography work. I travel quite a bit and have enjoyed the thin, lightweight form factor of the Yoga, so I'm likely looking for a similar type of Ultrabook again. I do very small amounts of video editing with GoPro clips, but far and away the bulk of my work is in photography. I am sticking with a Windows machine (personal preference), so please no suggestions for anything Apple.

One question from any similar photographers - is a 4K screen on a laptop worth the upgrade price, or is it wasted resolution for a small laptop screen? I do not think I'll notice the difference between 1080 and 4k on a 15-inch screen for regular tasks, but do you gain much in lightroom with the added resolution if I'm not using a large monitor to take advantage of it?

I'm looking at the Lenovo Flex 5 as the likely replacement candidate - similar form factor, decent specs with an i7 processor, price point is about right for what I'd like to spend (around $1k or so) - and Costco actually has two solid models (I have bought direct from Lenovo for my last 3-4 laptops for the family, and I typically prefer Lenovo products if all other things are equal)
  • Option 1 @ $1150: i7-7500U, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia 940MX 2GB graphics, 15" 4k screen, 512 GB SSD + 1TB hard drive
  • Option 2 @ $ 900: i7-7500U, 16 GB RAM, Nvidia 940MX 2GB graphics, 15" FHD/1080P screen, 512 GB SSD
  • Option 3 - buy option 2 to save the cash, then use the extra money for a 4k monitor down the road, and force myself to start using the office when I need that resolution.
The biggest difference for me is the additional $250 for the 4k screen resolution, as I can use my external drives & NAS for that extra hard-drive space. Has anyone recently made the upgrade to a 4K laptop, and do you feel it's worth the price jump?

Thanks for the input!
__________________
~Jason
2010 X5///M - Catless DP's, TTFS Stg2 tune
2007 335i E92 - Sold

JP Photography - Travel/Landscape/Automotive Photography
Appreciate 0
      06-13-2017, 11:51 AM   #2
R3dliner
Major
R3dliner's Avatar
United_States
407
Rep
1,381
Posts

Drives: 2011.75 E92 M3 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: NYC

iTrader: (4)

only 4k laptop worth getting lol. that 940 gpu will be your downfall with 4k.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...g&gclsrc=aw.ds
Appreciate 0
      06-13-2017, 12:04 PM   #3
GuidoK
#buildnotbought
GuidoK's Avatar
596
Rep
1,720
Posts

Drives: Z4 3.0i ESS TS2+
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Tinkering in the garage

iTrader: (0)

I think if you're into photo editing, its much more important what type of screen you get (so what kind of panel tech) instead of the resolution. Especially on a 15" screen.
So focus on panel tech (you know, TN, MVA (with its countless subtypes), PVA (again with all kinds of subtypes) and all the IPS variants.....)
That will give far more insight in colour representation, viewing angle etc. (and also decide how much glare the screen you want to have)
I dont know if OLED has already reached 15" and 17" laptops.

Panel resolution is probably the least important factor unless you get something really low on a large screen.
__________________
Z4 3.0i | ESS TS2+ | Quaife ATB LSD | Brembo/BMW performance BBK front/rear | Schrick FI cams | Schmiedmann headers+cats | Powerflex/strongflex PU bushings | Vibra-technics engine mounts | H&R anti rollbars | KW V3 coilovers | Sachs performance clutch

Last edited by GuidoK; 06-13-2017 at 12:10 PM.
Appreciate 1
      06-13-2017, 12:23 PM   #4
GoHokiesGo
Private
GoHokiesGo's Avatar
United_States
55
Rep
90
Posts

Drives: 2010 X5M
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Loudoun, VA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by R3dliner View Post
only 4k laptop worth getting lol. that 940 gpu will be your downfall with 4k.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...g&gclsrc=aw.ds
Thanks for the link to a $3k laptop, haha! Outside of photo editing I mainly just surf the web or stream movies on my computer, so it doesn't need to be capable of intense gaming or anything like that. Good to know that the 940 is going to struggle with 4k content, which will probably come into play more over the next few years.

Quote:
Originally Posted by GuidoK View Post
I think if you're into photo editing, its much more important what type of screen you get (so what kind of panel tech) instead of the resolution. Especially on a 15" screen.
So focus on panel tech (you know, TN, MVA (with its countless subtypes), PVA (again with all kinds of subtypes) and all the IPS variants.....)
That will give far more insight in colour representation, viewing angle etc. (and also decide how much glare the screen may have)
I dont know if OLED has already reached 15" and 17" laptops.

Panel resolution is probably the least important factor unless you get something really low on a large screen.
That's a good point to consider too- I've liked the IPS display on my current laptop, and while not calibrated, it's been close enough color & gamut for my purposes with the prints I've hung in my house. We're starting to print more and more now that we've settled down in a house, and we're finding permanent spots for our favorite shots.

I had previously convinced myself that I needed 4k as one of the primary features in the new laptop, but then I started to think it might not be so important when using a 14-16" screen to have that much resolution. I might be stepping back and starting to think Option 3 is better- save the money a bit on the laptop screen, and invest in a proper monitor to edit when I actually have a group to cull through.
__________________
~Jason
2010 X5///M - Catless DP's, TTFS Stg2 tune
2007 335i E92 - Sold

JP Photography - Travel/Landscape/Automotive Photography
Appreciate 0
      06-13-2017, 01:32 PM   #5
metrickid
Dinosaur supervisor
metrickid's Avatar
Netherlands
2023
Rep
4,230
Posts

Drives: M2
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Autobahn

iTrader: (0)

I have a 5k screen and the biggest advantage for me when editing is that I can look at the photos at 1:1 and still see the whole photo (almost). So it makes it a lot easier. So a 4K screen on a laptop will help you with this too.

But as you said yourself. The best option is to have an external screen where you do the most edits and then have a portable yet powerful enough laptop for on the road edits.
Appreciate 1
      06-19-2017, 03:26 PM   #6
P1et
Major General
P1et's Avatar
United_States
2281
Rep
7,296
Posts

Drives: cars
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Texas

iTrader: (1)

Before you upgrade to a new laptop, have you considered at least just wiping your laptop, throwing in an SSD and seeing if that improves performance? Then look at buying a nice external 4K or 5K monitor?
Appreciate 1
      06-19-2017, 03:36 PM   #7
pasghetti
Somebody Toucha My Spaghet
pasghetti's Avatar
1693
Rep
281
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

One thing people don't tell you when upgrading your screen resolution is the size of the user interface and scaling. Windows notoriously sucks at scaling the UI and Photoshops scaling leaves much to be desired.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Axius View Post
The only thing he caught last week was the clap.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lups View Post
Yeah, I get that a lot. Women always ask me how I manage to hide my penis so well.
Appreciate 0
      06-19-2017, 09:36 PM   #8
benacto
Private First Class
benacto's Avatar
39
Rep
133
Posts

Drives: 2014 Silver 550i Msport
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (1)

Besides nerding out on the tech specs of things, and the fact that all computers are going higher and higher res... like cameras. I think you'd have to ask what you're using your laptop for. Do you work and make money with it as your job? Do you only work with a laptop or do you also work on a desktop? And if your job involves graphic display quality / clarity, do you have to show your clients?
Appreciate 0
      06-20-2017, 06:48 PM   #9
GoHokiesGo
Private
GoHokiesGo's Avatar
United_States
55
Rep
90
Posts

Drives: 2010 X5M
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Loudoun, VA

iTrader: (0)

I think I've talked myself out of 4K on the laptop screen - I don't think I'd really be able to take advantage of it with the small screen size. And as many of you have mentioned- I could put the difference towards a nice 4k or 5k monitor, color calibrate it, and then have a nice editing setup.

Quote:
Originally Posted by P1et View Post
Before you upgrade to a new laptop, have you considered at least just wiping your laptop, throwing in an SSD and seeing if that improves performance? Then look at buying a nice external 4K or 5K monitor?
I started there as a first step, but I don't think it'd really be cost effective. I already have an SSD, so it'd be another $100+ to add more SSD storage. Then this machine is limited to 8GB of RAM, so it would help a bit for another $100ish. Basically, I figured that $200 into a 5-yr old machine would be a very temporary band-aid, and just springing for a new laptop was a better investment.
__________________
~Jason
2010 X5///M - Catless DP's, TTFS Stg2 tune
2007 335i E92 - Sold

JP Photography - Travel/Landscape/Automotive Photography
Appreciate 2
      08-29-2017, 05:00 AM   #10
atwoody
New Member
0
Rep
6
Posts

Drives: Audi
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: UK

iTrader: (0)

These laptops are designed for photo editing https://pc4u.org/best-laptop-for-vid...photo-editing/
Appreciate 0
      02-03-2018, 11:08 PM   #11
Anwarhossain123
Registered
0
Rep
1
Posts

Drives: Good
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Dhaka

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by metrickid View Post
I have a 5k screen and the biggest advantage for me when editing is that I can look at the photos at 1:1 and still see the whole photo (almost). So it makes it a lot easier. So a 4K screen on a laptop will help you with this too.

But as you said yourself. The best option is to have an external screen where you do the most edits and then have a portable yet powerful enough laptop for on the road edits.
Thank you metrickid for your reply. Please suggest me a laptop under $150.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:10 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST