any word on GIAC...? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

DisGuy · 07-11-2009, 03:23 PM

just wondering if anyone heard from GIAC? i know they said that they would post something for us on Mon/Tues but its Saturday now. well take your time and i hope it turns out to be a badass flash.

Zeph · 07-11-2009, 05:04 PM

Seems like the "best" stuff is always over-hyped and left to your imaginations. Look at ASR turbo upgrades... the "most badass powerful exotic quality turbo upgrade ever" yet we still have 0 results. AMS and the GT35R project that is now on hold because somebody else might have a turbo, that might work, if they get done with making exhaust system #45 and FMIC #37. Now they are pimping out CP-E parts, which is ironic that they are in bed with CP-E now

so you can't really trust that.

I think BMW will fix the HPFP problem before we really get a good system for our cars. Maybe it is for the better.

WhiteSled · 07-11-2009, 05:21 PM

Why is it ironic they are pimping out cpe parts?

Zeph · 07-11-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteSled

Why is it ironic they are pimping out cpe parts?

Because they are doing a joint-venture with CP-E now. Like I said above, "in bed with CP-E". Not that there is anything wrong with that, but trying to promote a "competitor's parts" loses it's appeal when they are now a partner of sorts. AMS has a great rep, when they said CP-E is the best DP, I almost bought them. Then I found out about the partnership thing and realized the bias.

sorry

jpsimon · 07-11-2009, 06:02 PM

The numbers I heard are very impressive compared to a popular piggyback on the same car/ same dyno. Way more impressive than any flash to date.

You all know how anti-flash I've been.. But I gotta say I am very impressed with how the GIAC flash has come along. Don't worry.. All the info will be posted soon (flash dyno overlayed with the piggy dyno graphs) don't worry, it will be worth the wait.

DisGuy · 07-11-2009, 06:39 PM

yea i didnt post this to rush them. i just havent been up to par with the forum thing so i was kind of behind on the updates and the last thing i read on GIAC was that he would post results on Monday and its now Saturday. they are probably almost done with it, just a matter of days hopefully. i really need a good flash tune upgrade.

WhiteSled · 07-11-2009, 07:23 PM

very impressive meaning better or lower then a piggy

jpsimon · 07-11-2009, 08:33 PM

Stronger and smoother

WhiteSled · 07-11-2009, 09:26 PM

i dont understand all this hush hush top secret crap....if the product is stronger/smoother/better than anything else out there. Post the result.....unless theres issues with it, which im guessing they're ironing out since the topic is delayed once again.

jpsimon · 07-11-2009, 09:56 PM

I'm not in California, it's 9:55pm EST on a saturday. Nick@aeperformance will post up the dynos and all the info you need soon. I am not allowed to disclose the deets. That's right I said "deets"

Octet · 07-11-2009, 10:01 PM

What's that a dyno tweet?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-11-2009, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

The numbers I heard are very impressive compared to a popular piggyback on the same car/ same dyno. Way more impressive than any flash to date.

You all know how anti-flash I've been.. But I gotta say I am very impressed with how the GIAC flash has come along. Don't worry.. All the info will be posted soon (flash dyno overlayed with the piggy dyno graphs) don't worry, it will be worththe wait.

It's the same old story.. you do a couple pulls using a lower piggyback map, take the worst run, Then spend all day optimizing a flash with cool downs between runs and overlay it on top.

The only "comparison" runs that have ANY value are those done by actual customers who are not vested in either system. Better yet, instead of wasting time on the dyno why not just post up track times? Hard to fake those.

Mike

bimmerboy · 07-12-2009, 12:09 AM

ibtl

jpsimon · 07-12-2009, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

It's the same old story.. you do a couple pulls using a lower piggyback map, take the worst run, Then spend all day optimizing a flash with cool downs between runs and overlay it on top.

The only "comparison" runs that have ANY value are those done by actual customers who are not vested in either system. Better yet, instead of wasting time on the dyno why not just post up track times? Hard to fake those.

Mike

someones cheese fell off their cracker. Actually you're hillariously way off... Actually the piggyback used is using the latest and greatest map. No shenanigans. If you look at my post history you'd know I've been anti-flash for a lonngggg time. This is actually impressive for once. GIAC is no joke

mwahlert · 07-16-2009, 09:28 AM

still nothing - huh?

ssabripo · 07-16-2009, 09:37 AM

I dont know if GIAC or APR or whoever else is going to be better/worst than a Procede/JB3 piggyback or not.

But honestly, I am DONE with the vaporware, hush hush, garbage going on in our N54 community.

If the flash is going well, post the results so far, ask for feedback, things to improve, etc, and I guarantee you that you WILL get a great final product, and a good community backing.

All this stupid hush hush "wait guys, I can't say because is top secret, but it will be a monster...wait till you see..." non-sense is getting way overboard.

/rant

mwahlert · 07-16-2009, 09:47 AM

it was nearly 3 weeks ago that AE promised to post dyno charts and stuff "that week"....haahahah

could you imagine what would happen if you promised your boss something "this week" and didn't deliver it still 3 weeks later?

Tobias1980 · 07-16-2009, 09:48 AM

I have heard rumors that Nick@aeperformance blew his turbo after 100 miles and that his car is now at a garage for repair.

I wonder if he will promote the GIAC tune after this start?

The tune may have been a good dyno queen though!

mwahlert · 07-16-2009, 09:55 AM

i am very excited to see the results but too have had bad personal experiences with giac. my good friend had a 1.8t gti w/ a giac flash - he toasted the stock turbo - and the first replacement vw installed under warranty - then he turned the chip off in fear of eating another....

i ran apr tune on my 1.8t for 50k miles never had a problem... could just be luck of the draw.

roadkillrob · 07-16-2009, 10:00 AM

Ask again in a year, then we should have more info or it will end up like the Shark Edit!

jpsimon · 07-16-2009, 10:01 AM

This is not true in any way shape or form. Don't start ridiculous rumors like this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobias1980

I have heard rumors that Nick@aeperformance blew his turbo after 100 miles and that his car is now at a garage for repair.

I wonder if he will promote the GIAC tune after this start?

The tune may have been a good dyno queen though!

Guys, all the info will be posted when it gets posted. Complaining and crying about it isn't going to make it come any faster.

Tobias1980 · 07-16-2009, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

This is not true in any way shape or form. Don't start ridiculous rumors like this.

Guys, all the info will be posted when it gets posted. Complaining and crying about it isn't going to make it come any faster.

My friend who lives close to AE in California told me this

07-11-2009, 03:23 PM	#1
DisGuy Private First Class Drives: 3-Dirty-5 EyE Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: DmV Posts: 162 iTrader: (1)	any word on GIAC...? just wondering if anyone heard from GIAC? i know they said that they would post something for us on Mon/Tues but its Saturday now. well take your time and i hope it turns out to be a badass flash.
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07-11-2009, 06:02 PM	#5
jpsimon Team Zissou Drives: 335xi Coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT Posts: 7,033 iTrader: (2)	The numbers I heard are very impressive compared to a popular piggyback on the same car/ same dyno. Way more impressive than any flash to date. You all know how anti-flash I've been.. But I gotta say I am very impressed with how the GIAC flash has come along. Don't worry.. All the info will be posted soon (flash dyno overlayed with the piggy dyno graphs) don't worry, it will be worth the wait. __________________ I have lots of mods and stuff Last edited by jpsimon; 07-12-2009 at 02:48 AM.

07-11-2009, 08:33 PM	#8
jpsimon Team Zissou Drives: 335xi Coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT Posts: 7,033 iTrader: (2)	Stronger and smoother __________________ I have lots of mods and stuff

07-11-2009, 09:56 PM	#10
jpsimon Team Zissou Drives: 335xi Coupe Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT Posts: 7,033 iTrader: (2)	I'm not in California, it's 9:55pm EST on a saturday. Nick@aeperformance will post up the dynos and all the info you need soon. I am not allowed to disclose the deets. That's right I said "deets" __________________ I have lots of mods and stuff Last edited by jpsimon; 07-12-2009 at 02:50 AM.

07-12-2009, 12:09 AM	#13
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07-11-2009, 05:04 PM	#2
Zeph Major Drives: 2008 E92 335i 6MT SGM CR/BD Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Southeast USA Posts: 1,167 iTrader: (0)	Seems like the "best" stuff is always over-hyped and left to your imaginations. Look at ASR turbo upgrades... the "most badass powerful exotic quality turbo upgrade ever" yet we still have 0 results. AMS and the GT35R project that is now on hold because somebody else might have a turbo, that might work, if they get done with making exhaust system #45 and FMIC #37. Now they are pimping out CP-E parts, which is ironic that they are in bed with CP-E now so you can't really trust that. I think BMW will fix the HPFP problem before we really get a good system for our cars. Maybe it is for the better.

07-11-2009, 05:21 PM	#3
WhiteSled Banned Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 143 iTrader: (0)	Why is it ironic they are pimping out cpe parts?

07-11-2009, 06:39 PM	#6
DisGuy Private First Class Drives: 3-Dirty-5 EyE Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: DmV Posts: 162 iTrader: (1)	yea i didnt post this to rush them. i just havent been up to par with the forum thing so i was kind of behind on the updates and the last thing i read on GIAC was that he would post results on Monday and its now Saturday. they are probably almost done with it, just a matter of days hopefully. i really need a good flash tune upgrade.

07-11-2009, 07:23 PM	#7
WhiteSled Banned Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 143 iTrader: (0)	very impressive meaning better or lower then a piggy

07-11-2009, 09:26 PM	#9
WhiteSled Banned Drives: 2009 BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 143 iTrader: (0)	i dont understand all this hush hush top secret crap....if the product is stronger/smoother/better than anything else out there. Post the result.....unless theres issues with it, which im guessing they're ironing out since the topic is delayed once again.

07-11-2009, 10:01 PM	#11
Octet Private Drives: 335i, E90, 08' Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 94 iTrader: (1)	What's that a dyno tweet?

07-16-2009, 09:28 AM	#15
mwahlert Major Drives: 2007 335i e90 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rocky Point, NY Posts: 1,420 iTrader: (1) View mwahlert's Garage	still nothing - huh? __________________ for sale: 2007 bmw 335i dba 4000 series rotors 19" lc dynas

07-16-2009, 09:37 AM	#16
ssabripo High End, Son! Drives: 2008 BMW 135i, soon: e90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Plantation, Fl Posts: 1,303 iTrader: (1)	I dont know if GIAC or APR or whoever else is going to be better/worst than a Procede/JB3 piggyback or not. But honestly, I am DONE with the vaporware, hush hush, garbage going on in our N54 community. If the flash is going well, post the results so far, ask for feedback, things to improve, etc, and I guarantee you that you WILL get a great final product, and a good community backing. All this stupid hush hush "wait guys, I can't say because is top secret, but it will be a monster...wait till you see..." non-sense is getting way overboard. /rant __________________ __________________________________________________ _____________ e90 M3, Interlagos Blue / Bamboo, Competition, Premium, Technology, DCT, iPod, Sunroof, ED.

07-16-2009, 09:47 AM	#17
mwahlert Major Drives: 2007 335i e90 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rocky Point, NY Posts: 1,420 iTrader: (1) View mwahlert's Garage	it was nearly 3 weeks ago that AE promised to post dyno charts and stuff "that week"....haahahah could you imagine what would happen if you promised your boss something "this week" and didn't deliver it still 3 weeks later? __________________ for sale: 2007 bmw 335i dba 4000 series rotors 19" lc dynas

07-16-2009, 09:48 AM	#18
Tobias1980 Read the manual please, just do it before asking! Drives: E92 335 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 397 iTrader: (0)	I have heard rumors that Nick@aeperformance blew his turbo after 100 miles and that his car is now at a garage for repair. I wonder if he will promote the GIAC tune after this start? The tune may have been a good dyno queen though!

07-16-2009, 09:55 AM	#19
mwahlert Major Drives: 2007 335i e90 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Rocky Point, NY Posts: 1,420 iTrader: (1) View mwahlert's Garage	i am very excited to see the results but too have had bad personal experiences with giac. my good friend had a 1.8t gti w/ a giac flash - he toasted the stock turbo - and the first replacement vw installed under warranty - then he turned the chip off in fear of eating another.... i ran apr tune on my 1.8t for 50k miles never had a problem... could just be luck of the draw. __________________ for sale: 2007 bmw 335i dba 4000 series rotors 19" lc dynas

07-16-2009, 10:00 AM	#20
roadkillrob Colonel Drives: 2008 335Cic, 2011 X5 35i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 2,238 iTrader: (10)	Ask again in a year, then we should have more info or it will end up like the Shark Edit! __________________ 2008 E93 335 2011 X5 Premium xdrive35i