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      07-17-2009, 05:52 PM   #1

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Angry Do Not Buy From Elmhurst Bmw

A little background on the issue...

We all know the concept of "shady used car salesmen", but let's be honest. Usually this term calls to mind someone slinging '88 Pontiacs at an out-of-biz gas station turned car dealership. I NEVER thought I'd encounter this type of behavior at a luxury dealer until I went to Elmhurst. I have been going there for service for a while with no complaints, and figured to expect the same treatment from the sales group. Not so much....

I had been browsing used X5's when a particular salesman who happens to have a nice window view came out to help me. We talked about 2 cars, both V8's, one in blue and one in black. I liked the black one, so I took it out for a spin. Very enjoyable, I'll say.

Following the test drive, and after looking elsewhere, I e-mailed the salesman and we began a dialogue on the vehicle (the black V8) that I wanted. He started by giving me the price they wanted, evaluating my trade, and over the course of the week we came to a nice arrangement...

I am sitting at his desk, pen and check in hand, and just waiting to cover final numbers when this guy asks "were you looking at the black V8 4.4 or V6 3.0? Because the V8 will be a different price..."

WTF!!!! I had not EVER looked at ANY of the V6's. The email string between us clearly shows that I was talking about the V8, as evidenced by the miles and initial pricepoint. (incidentally, the V6 has an extra 20K+ miles) This guy just tried to play me! Got me all the way to the office ready to go, and then pulls out on the price we negotiated over an entire week!!!! Is this even legal? Are email negotiations binding as if in writing?

After expressing my displeasure, he "worked" the new price, bringing it down about 1/4 of the way to the price we actually negotiated, which was not enough to make the deal regardless of how angry I was. Add the anger, and as you can imagine, I walked out.

This dealership should be ashamed about this behavior! Are they really in such a good place financially that they would screw a prospective buyer out of a V8 SUV in a time when SUVs aren't exactly flying off the lots?

If anyone knows the ownership of this dealer, please let me know!!! I'd like to have a few words....
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      07-19-2009, 05:37 AM   #2

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although it may be frustrating and bad tactics on their part, it is not illegal and definitely not bindnig because nothing is signed and verbal or email statements don't mean jack crap.

Just like the saying "Prices are subject to change without notice." or "Promotions subject to change with or without notice".

The only time when anything, and everything is tried and true and legitimate is when you sit down, agree to the numbers and you and the dealer sign the papers. In this case, only two of those circumstances happen.

1. When you buy the car and you sign the super long yellow paper which includes the price of the car, apr, taxes, license fees, registration, insurance, etc.

2. When you order the car and you sign the order form agreeing to the price + TTL.

in fact, the salesman can say the car is $50grand, have it all ready to go, then as you waltz into the finance guy's office, if it shows $55 grand on paper, and you sign it... well crap.. thats your problem then for not reading.
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      07-19-2009, 08:58 AM   #3
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Douche B@gs! that is so lame. go somewhere else. they shoud contact you and offer you additional discounts on the V8. like another $1000 off from the agreed price for that stupid tactic he tried to pull.
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      07-19-2009, 09:36 AM   #4
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Caveat emptor.
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